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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/06/nokia-vs-iphone.html/comment-page-2#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear Hear!  I have been a loyal Nokia user for years because of excellent customer service and phones that, until the iPhone, were the most user-friendly and reliable around (disputable...but definitely better than Motorola).  The n92 is COOL.  Prior to the release of the iPhone, it was the coolest product available...if Nokia had hyped the n92 in advance of the iPhone release, they could have really stolen some of the iPhone&#039;s thunder...particularly in the rather strong CDMA US-base (Verizon is the largest carrier) who are locked out of the iPhone due to the exclusive deal with AT&amp;T.

You make a great point...what ARE their marketing people doing?  I was desperate for a Nokia clamshell several years ago but none were available.

The iPhone doesn&#039;t do it for me because I want to be able to open documents and use Sprint&#039;s faster network connection...but now, having seen the iPhone interface and touch-screen technology, I can&#039;t settle for the N95 either.  I guess I&#039;ll just wait for the next generation...which I&#039;m sure we Americans will have to diligently search online to discover, as no ad campaign is forthcoming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear Hear!  I have been a loyal Nokia user for years because of excellent customer service and phones that, until the iPhone, were the most user-friendly and reliable around (disputable&#8230;but definitely better than Motorola).  The n92 is COOL.  Prior to the release of the iPhone, it was the coolest product available&#8230;if Nokia had hyped the n92 in advance of the iPhone release, they could have really stolen some of the iPhone&#8217;s thunder&#8230;particularly in the rather strong CDMA US-base (Verizon is the largest carrier) who are locked out of the iPhone due to the exclusive deal with AT&#038;T.</p>
<p>You make a great point&#8230;what ARE their marketing people doing?  I was desperate for a Nokia clamshell several years ago but none were available.</p>
<p>The iPhone doesn&#8217;t do it for me because I want to be able to open documents and use Sprint&#8217;s faster network connection&#8230;but now, having seen the iPhone interface and touch-screen technology, I can&#8217;t settle for the N95 either.  I guess I&#8217;ll just wait for the next generation&#8230;which I&#8217;m sure we Americans will have to diligently search online to discover, as no ad campaign is forthcoming.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/06/nokia-vs-iphone.html/comment-page-2#comment-25493</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear Hear!  I have been a loyal Nokia user for years because of excellent customer service and phones that, until the iPhone, were the most user-friendly and reliable around (disputable...but definitely better than Motorola).  The n92 is COOL.  Prior to the release of the iPhone, it was the coolest product available...if Nokia had hyped the n92 in advance of the iPhone release, they could have really stolen some of the iPhone&#039;s thunder...particularly in the rather strong CDMA US-base (Verizon is the largest carrier) who are locked out of the iPhone due to the exclusive deal with AT&amp;T.

You make a great point...what ARE their marketing people doing?  I was desperate for a Nokia clamshell several years ago but none were available.

The iPhone doesn&#039;t do it for me because I want to be able to open documents and use Sprint&#039;s faster network connection...but now, having seen the iPhone interface and touch-screen technology, I can&#039;t settle for the N95 either.  I guess I&#039;ll just wait for the next generation...which I&#039;m sure we Americans will have to diligently search online to discover, as no ad campaign is forthcoming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear Hear!  I have been a loyal Nokia user for years because of excellent customer service and phones that, until the iPhone, were the most user-friendly and reliable around (disputable&#8230;but definitely better than Motorola).  The n92 is COOL.  Prior to the release of the iPhone, it was the coolest product available&#8230;if Nokia had hyped the n92 in advance of the iPhone release, they could have really stolen some of the iPhone&#8217;s thunder&#8230;particularly in the rather strong CDMA US-base (Verizon is the largest carrier) who are locked out of the iPhone due to the exclusive deal with AT&amp;T.</p>
<p>You make a great point&#8230;what ARE their marketing people doing?  I was desperate for a Nokia clamshell several years ago but none were available.</p>
<p>The iPhone doesn&#8217;t do it for me because I want to be able to open documents and use Sprint&#8217;s faster network connection&#8230;but now, having seen the iPhone interface and touch-screen technology, I can&#8217;t settle for the N95 either.  I guess I&#8217;ll just wait for the next generation&#8230;which I&#8217;m sure we Americans will have to diligently search online to discover, as no ad campaign is forthcoming.</p>
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		<title>By: Electro-Spyder</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/06/nokia-vs-iphone.html/comment-page-2#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>Electro-Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it has nothing to do with interface, when it comes to mobile phone market. Did people buy all those V3 for interface? No. Majority of people who buy mobile device don&#039;t, and will never, care about interface. They don&#039;t even know what it is. They just want phone that works and look good. Of course, with people like us, who knows and seeks device for our personal interest, that is entirely different. But, most of the time, the larger share of mobile device market has nothing to do with how the phone works. It&#039;s all about the look and the hype. That&#039;s why the iPhone will dominate the market. Pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it has nothing to do with interface, when it comes to mobile phone market. Did people buy all those V3 for interface? No. Majority of people who buy mobile device don&#8217;t, and will never, care about interface. They don&#8217;t even know what it is. They just want phone that works and look good. Of course, with people like us, who knows and seeks device for our personal interest, that is entirely different. But, most of the time, the larger share of mobile device market has nothing to do with how the phone works. It&#8217;s all about the look and the hype. That&#8217;s why the iPhone will dominate the market. Pure and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Electro-Spyder</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/06/nokia-vs-iphone.html/comment-page-2#comment-25492</link>
		<dc:creator>Electro-Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it has nothing to do with interface, when it comes to mobile phone market. Did people buy all those V3 for interface? No. Majority of people who buy mobile device don&#039;t, and will never, care about interface. They don&#039;t even know what it is. They just want phone that works and look good. Of course, with people like us, who knows and seeks device for our personal interest, that is entirely different. But, most of the time, the larger share of mobile device market has nothing to do with how the phone works. It&#039;s all about the look and the hype. That&#039;s why the iPhone will dominate the market. Pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it has nothing to do with interface, when it comes to mobile phone market. Did people buy all those V3 for interface? No. Majority of people who buy mobile device don&#8217;t, and will never, care about interface. They don&#8217;t even know what it is. They just want phone that works and look good. Of course, with people like us, who knows and seeks device for our personal interest, that is entirely different. But, most of the time, the larger share of mobile device market has nothing to do with how the phone works. It&#8217;s all about the look and the hype. That&#8217;s why the iPhone will dominate the market. Pure and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: mst0192</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/06/nokia-vs-iphone.html/comment-page-2#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>mst0192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s all about the interface...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s all about the interface&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mst0192</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/06/nokia-vs-iphone.html/comment-page-2#comment-25491</link>
		<dc:creator>mst0192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s all about the interface...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s all about the interface&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Electro-Spyder</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/06/nokia-vs-iphone.html/comment-page-2#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Electro-Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think what you, Rick, have stated above makes perfect sense. It was never about the device in the first place. It was about how Apple was able to make iPhone look like a gift from the gods of Olympus. That this phone, a device, will singlehandedly deliver what everyone&#039;s been searching for their entire life, and Jobs had their attention from the day one. iPhone! A phone made by the same company who brought you iPod, iTunes, iMac, iCarrumba... and possibly iRobot, but that can be disputed...
Apple as a company understands marketing. Most importantly, they know their target market. It is the swarm of ordinary people who doesn&#039;t know S60 from Volvo S60, and doesn&#039;t care to find out either. It is the people who just wants a latest fashionable cellphone they can carry, and perhaps catch the glance of other&#039;s, detecting faint trace of envy that will glorify their existence on this earth as demi-gods. It is this market that Jobs understand and caters to, exclusively. So who cares that some techno-savvy geeks knows the secret of the iPhone, and wants the world to know about it? World doesn&#039;t want to know. It never did. But then most of the cellphone companies don&#039;t, either.
Marketing of cellphones in places like Japan and S.Korea, and in large part of non-North American world, has been refined to the point, that it is it&#039;s own industry now. They research market, track their target demographic, search for that new market segment that will bring them new money. When they gauge the market, and receive feeback, they act on it. Fast. It is this marketing strategy that fuels continued existence of cellphone industry, as exciting and forward-thinking place. Where is this enthusiasm, if only feigned, with Nokia? Or Sony Ericsson? How many times do I see Nokia TV commercial, right after the reruns of Friends? Have I ever seen new and exciting N95, or SE K810i, on TV? No. And if it wasn&#039;t for that courageous Chinese businessman who had the adacity to sell unlocked phones in my area, I would never have known about them either.
Perhaps cellphone industry is still being propelled by that old standard, &#039;word of mouth&#039; advertising. Well, people tire of talk, and &#039;show and tell,&#039; and in most part just &#039;show,&#039; is the only way to get your idea across these days. You don&#039;t show them, they don&#039;t know you. Or you product.

But who knows? Maybe iPhone will get tanked, and everything will get sucked into an iBlackhole, and the world as we know it, will cease to exist. Then we&#039;ll just have to use our N95 to call our friends and tell them all about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think what you, Rick, have stated above makes perfect sense. It was never about the device in the first place. It was about how Apple was able to make iPhone look like a gift from the gods of Olympus. That this phone, a device, will singlehandedly deliver what everyone&#8217;s been searching for their entire life, and Jobs had their attention from the day one. iPhone! A phone made by the same company who brought you iPod, iTunes, iMac, iCarrumba&#8230; and possibly iRobot, but that can be disputed&#8230;<br />
Apple as a company understands marketing. Most importantly, they know their target market. It is the swarm of ordinary people who doesn&#8217;t know S60 from Volvo S60, and doesn&#8217;t care to find out either. It is the people who just wants a latest fashionable cellphone they can carry, and perhaps catch the glance of other&#8217;s, detecting faint trace of envy that will glorify their existence on this earth as demi-gods. It is this market that Jobs understand and caters to, exclusively. So who cares that some techno-savvy geeks knows the secret of the iPhone, and wants the world to know about it? World doesn&#8217;t want to know. It never did. But then most of the cellphone companies don&#8217;t, either.<br />
Marketing of cellphones in places like Japan and S.Korea, and in large part of non-North American world, has been refined to the point, that it is it&#8217;s own industry now. They research market, track their target demographic, search for that new market segment that will bring them new money. When they gauge the market, and receive feeback, they act on it. Fast. It is this marketing strategy that fuels continued existence of cellphone industry, as exciting and forward-thinking place. Where is this enthusiasm, if only feigned, with Nokia? Or Sony Ericsson? How many times do I see Nokia TV commercial, right after the reruns of Friends? Have I ever seen new and exciting N95, or SE K810i, on TV? No. And if it wasn&#8217;t for that courageous Chinese businessman who had the adacity to sell unlocked phones in my area, I would never have known about them either.<br />
Perhaps cellphone industry is still being propelled by that old standard, &#8216;word of mouth&#8217; advertising. Well, people tire of talk, and &#8216;show and tell,&#8217; and in most part just &#8216;show,&#8217; is the only way to get your idea across these days. You don&#8217;t show them, they don&#8217;t know you. Or you product.</p>
<p>But who knows? Maybe iPhone will get tanked, and everything will get sucked into an iBlackhole, and the world as we know it, will cease to exist. Then we&#8217;ll just have to use our N95 to call our friends and tell them all about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Electro-Spyder</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/06/nokia-vs-iphone.html/comment-page-2#comment-25490</link>
		<dc:creator>Electro-Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think what you, Rick, have stated above makes perfect sense. It was never about the device in the first place. It was about how Apple was able to make iPhone look like a gift from the gods of Olympus. That this phone, a device, will singlehandedly deliver what everyone&#039;s been searching for their entire life, and Jobs had their attention from the day one. iPhone! A phone made by the same company who brought you iPod, iTunes, iMac, iCarrumba... and possibly iRobot, but that can be disputed...
Apple as a company understands marketing. Most importantly, they know their target market. It is the swarm of ordinary people who doesn&#039;t know S60 from Volvo S60, and doesn&#039;t care to find out either. It is the people who just wants a latest fashionable cellphone they can carry, and perhaps catch the glance of other&#039;s, detecting faint trace of envy that will glorify their existence on this earth as demi-gods. It is this market that Jobs understand and caters to, exclusively. So who cares that some techno-savvy geeks knows the secret of the iPhone, and wants the world to know about it? World doesn&#039;t want to know. It never did. But then most of the cellphone companies don&#039;t, either.
Marketing of cellphones in places like Japan and S.Korea, and in large part of non-North American world, has been refined to the point, that it is it&#039;s own industry now. They research market, track their target demographic, search for that new market segment that will bring them new money. When they gauge the market, and receive feeback, they act on it. Fast. It is this marketing strategy that fuels continued existence of cellphone industry, as exciting and forward-thinking place. Where is this enthusiasm, if only feigned, with Nokia? Or Sony Ericsson? How many times do I see Nokia TV commercial, right after the reruns of Friends? Have I ever seen new and exciting N95, or SE K810i, on TV? No. And if it wasn&#039;t for that courageous Chinese businessman who had the adacity to sell unlocked phones in my area, I would never have known about them either.
Perhaps cellphone industry is still being propelled by that old standard, &#039;word of mouth&#039; advertising. Well, people tire of talk, and &#039;show and tell,&#039; and in most part just &#039;show,&#039; is the only way to get your idea across these days. You don&#039;t show them, they don&#039;t know you. Or you product.

But who knows? Maybe iPhone will get tanked, and everything will get sucked into an iBlackhole, and the world as we know it, will cease to exist. Then we&#039;ll just have to use our N95 to call our friends and tell them all about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think what you, Rick, have stated above makes perfect sense. It was never about the device in the first place. It was about how Apple was able to make iPhone look like a gift from the gods of Olympus. That this phone, a device, will singlehandedly deliver what everyone&#8217;s been searching for their entire life, and Jobs had their attention from the day one. iPhone! A phone made by the same company who brought you iPod, iTunes, iMac, iCarrumba&#8230; and possibly iRobot, but that can be disputed&#8230;<br />
Apple as a company understands marketing. Most importantly, they know their target market. It is the swarm of ordinary people who doesn&#8217;t know S60 from Volvo S60, and doesn&#8217;t care to find out either. It is the people who just wants a latest fashionable cellphone they can carry, and perhaps catch the glance of other&#8217;s, detecting faint trace of envy that will glorify their existence on this earth as demi-gods. It is this market that Jobs understand and caters to, exclusively. So who cares that some techno-savvy geeks knows the secret of the iPhone, and wants the world to know about it? World doesn&#8217;t want to know. It never did. But then most of the cellphone companies don&#8217;t, either.<br />
Marketing of cellphones in places like Japan and S.Korea, and in large part of non-North American world, has been refined to the point, that it is it&#8217;s own industry now. They research market, track their target demographic, search for that new market segment that will bring them new money. When they gauge the market, and receive feeback, they act on it. Fast. It is this marketing strategy that fuels continued existence of cellphone industry, as exciting and forward-thinking place. Where is this enthusiasm, if only feigned, with Nokia? Or Sony Ericsson? How many times do I see Nokia TV commercial, right after the reruns of Friends? Have I ever seen new and exciting N95, or SE K810i, on TV? No. And if it wasn&#8217;t for that courageous Chinese businessman who had the adacity to sell unlocked phones in my area, I would never have known about them either.<br />
Perhaps cellphone industry is still being propelled by that old standard, &#8216;word of mouth&#8217; advertising. Well, people tire of talk, and &#8216;show and tell,&#8217; and in most part just &#8216;show,&#8217; is the only way to get your idea across these days. You don&#8217;t show them, they don&#8217;t know you. Or you product.</p>
<p>But who knows? Maybe iPhone will get tanked, and everything will get sucked into an iBlackhole, and the world as we know it, will cease to exist. Then we&#8217;ll just have to use our N95 to call our friends and tell them all about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iphone is a cheap spinoff of the ipod thats it. Nothing new except the touchscreen user interface. Thats it.

In terms of the features besides that, everything else is not new.


N95 vs Iphone , no contest n95 wins outright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iphone is a cheap spinoff of the ipod thats it. Nothing new except the touchscreen user interface. Thats it.</p>
<p>In terms of the features besides that, everything else is not new.</p>
<p>N95 vs Iphone , no contest n95 wins outright.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iphone is a cheap spinoff of the ipod thats it. Nothing new except the touchscreen user interface. Thats it.

In terms of the features besides that, everything else is not new.


N95 vs Iphone , no contest n95 wins outright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iphone is a cheap spinoff of the ipod thats it. Nothing new except the touchscreen user interface. Thats it.</p>
<p>In terms of the features besides that, everything else is not new.</p>
<p>N95 vs Iphone , no contest n95 wins outright.</p>
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