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	<title>Comments on: 10 Things S60 Needs To Learn From WM</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! I&#039;ve been a WM user since HTC Touch. Looking back at using Symbian or even today&#039;s(year 2011) Symbian platforms, still makes me throw up. Most people hates WM for having a standard interface and felt so &quot;Windows&quot;(It&#039;s Windows so you&#039;ll be using Windows, I said) and nothing new and can&#039;t do this and that.. WM is so customize&#039;able in every way, you just need some right apps and right tools to make it look better.. Customize Symbian, and it will still looks like Symbian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! I&#8217;ve been a WM user since HTC Touch. Looking back at using Symbian or even today&#8217;s(year 2011) Symbian platforms, still makes me throw up. Most people hates WM for having a standard interface and felt so &#8220;Windows&#8221;(It&#8217;s Windows so you&#8217;ll be using Windows, I said) and nothing new and can&#8217;t do this and that.. WM is so customize&#8217;able in every way, you just need some right apps and right tools to make it look better.. Customize Symbian, and it will still looks like Symbian.</p>
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		<title>By: Running Windows Mobile Or Linux On Your S60 Handset? &#124; Symbian-Guru.com</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2008/01/10-things-s60-needs-to-learn-from-wm.html/comment-page-1#comment-13815</link>
		<dc:creator>Running Windows Mobile Or Linux On Your S60 Handset? &#124; Symbian-Guru.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3250&#8217;s battery died on me. I summed up my thoughts about S60 and Windows Mobile in 2 posts: 10 things S60 should learn from WM and 10 things WM should learn from S60, and eventually gave up on Windows Mobile as a whole. I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3250&#8217;s battery died on me. I summed up my thoughts about S60 and Windows Mobile in 2 posts: 10 things S60 should learn from WM and 10 things WM should learn from S60, and eventually gave up on Windows Mobile as a whole. I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: S60 3rd One Step Closer To Full Adoption</title>
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		<dc:creator>S60 3rd One Step Closer To Full Adoption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] am known to rant and rant and then rant some more about the lack of what I call &#8220;profession-axed software&#8221; for S60 3rd Edition. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] am known to rant and rant and then rant some more about the lack of what I call &#8220;profession-axed software&#8221; for S60 3rd Edition. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comparing smartphone operating systems &#171; Intelligent Mobile</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2008/01/10-things-s60-needs-to-learn-from-wm.html/comment-page-1#comment-3926</link>
		<dc:creator>Comparing smartphone operating systems &#171; Intelligent Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] smartphone operating&#160;systems  25 01 2008   Dotsisx at Symbian-Guru has listed 10 things S60 needs to learn from WM and 10 things WM needs to learn from S60. There are many good points in both posts, although in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] smartphone operating&nbsp;systems  25 01 2008   Dotsisx at Symbian-Guru has listed 10 things S60 needs to learn from WM and 10 things WM needs to learn from S60. There are many good points in both posts, although in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chall3ng3r</title>
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		<dc:creator>chall3ng3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,

what a great article, i had a WM device once, but i have to give it away as my development was requiring S60 device.

the list you made out here are exactly what i miss in S60 after switching from WM.

i&#039;m a S60 and WM developer as well, and in development i find myself resitricted as well by hard-coded UIDs, PlatSec etc.

howerver, things looks a bit changing lately, like addition of Open C, so it a bit easy to understand and work with as compared with S60 C++ :)

// chall3ng3r //</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,</p>
<p>what a great article, i had a WM device once, but i have to give it away as my development was requiring S60 device.</p>
<p>the list you made out here are exactly what i miss in S60 after switching from WM.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m a S60 and WM developer as well, and in development i find myself resitricted as well by hard-coded UIDs, PlatSec etc.</p>
<p>howerver, things looks a bit changing lately, like addition of Open C, so it a bit easy to understand and work with as compared with S60 C++ :)</p>
<p>// chall3ng3r //</p>
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		<title>By: chall3ng3r</title>
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		<dc:creator>chall3ng3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,

what a great article, i had a WM device once, but i have to give it away as my development was requiring S60 device.

the list you made out here are exactly what i miss in S60 after switching from WM.

i&#039;m a S60 and WM developer as well, and in development i find myself resitricted as well by hard-coded UIDs, PlatSec etc.

howerver, things looks a bit changing lately, like addition of Open C, so it a bit easy to understand and work with as compared with S60 C++ :)

// chall3ng3r //</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,</p>
<p>what a great article, i had a WM device once, but i have to give it away as my development was requiring S60 device.</p>
<p>the list you made out here are exactly what i miss in S60 after switching from WM.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m a S60 and WM developer as well, and in development i find myself resitricted as well by hard-coded UIDs, PlatSec etc.</p>
<p>howerver, things looks a bit changing lately, like addition of Open C, so it a bit easy to understand and work with as compared with S60 C++ :)</p>
<p>// chall3ng3r //</p>
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		<title>By: Bitácora móvil &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Comparativa entre S60 y Windows Mobile</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2008/01/10-things-s60-needs-to-learn-from-wm.html/comment-page-1#comment-3891</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitácora móvil &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Comparativa entre S60 y Windows Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Symbian-Guru han publicado dos entradas (10 Things S60 Needs To Learn From WM y 10 Things WM Needs To Learn From S60, &#8216;10 Cosas Que S60 Necesita Aprender de WM&#8217; y [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Symbian-Guru han publicado dos entradas (10 Things S60 Needs To Learn From WM y 10 Things WM Needs To Learn From S60, &#8216;10 Cosas Que S60 Necesita Aprender de WM&#8217; y [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anwar</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2008/01/10-things-s60-needs-to-learn-from-wm.html/comment-page-1#comment-3886</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to expand point number 10. Its not just gallery but affects applications that use sound/pictures.

*Rant mode on*

Example if I wanted to just a thumbnail for a contact the system has to list EVERY picture in the phone/memory card. Thats plain dumb. Especially in phones like N95 8GB or even my E90 equipped with 4GB microsd. I have a lot of pictures and this is ridiculous. Same goes for selecting ringtones / messagetones. They have to list everything. If you have a lot of both it takes ages while the system builds the list. Again incredibly stupid.

I&#039;m using hacks where I store my photos/songs in hidden folders just so the system doesn&#039;t see them. But this is probably beyond the average users. I know non tech chaps using N95 that just don&#039;t bother adding thumbnails or custom ring tones because their phone appear to &quot;hang&quot; while its trying to build a list of songs/photos. 

I can&#039;t believe they still haven&#039;t fixed this since S60v2. Don&#039;t they have testers? Haven&#039;t they tried to get someone to fill that 8GB with hundreds of photos and lets see them try to locate one. Remember the system builds a simple list and doesn&#039;t allow you to select specific folders so your just seeing everything.

*Rant mode off*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to expand point number 10. Its not just gallery but affects applications that use sound/pictures.</p>
<p>*Rant mode on*</p>
<p>Example if I wanted to just a thumbnail for a contact the system has to list EVERY picture in the phone/memory card. Thats plain dumb. Especially in phones like N95 8GB or even my E90 equipped with 4GB microsd. I have a lot of pictures and this is ridiculous. Same goes for selecting ringtones / messagetones. They have to list everything. If you have a lot of both it takes ages while the system builds the list. Again incredibly stupid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using hacks where I store my photos/songs in hidden folders just so the system doesn&#8217;t see them. But this is probably beyond the average users. I know non tech chaps using N95 that just don&#8217;t bother adding thumbnails or custom ring tones because their phone appear to &#8220;hang&#8221; while its trying to build a list of songs/photos. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe they still haven&#8217;t fixed this since S60v2. Don&#8217;t they have testers? Haven&#8217;t they tried to get someone to fill that 8GB with hundreds of photos and lets see them try to locate one. Remember the system builds a simple list and doesn&#8217;t allow you to select specific folders so your just seeing everything.</p>
<p>*Rant mode off*</p>
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		<title>By: Anwar</title>
		<link>http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2008/01/10-things-s60-needs-to-learn-from-wm.html/comment-page-1#comment-27745</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to expand point number 10. Its not just gallery but affects applications that use sound/pictures.

*Rant mode on*

Example if I wanted to just a thumbnail for a contact the system has to list EVERY picture in the phone/memory card. Thats plain dumb. Especially in phones like N95 8GB or even my E90 equipped with 4GB microsd. I have a lot of pictures and this is ridiculous. Same goes for selecting ringtones / messagetones. They have to list everything. If you have a lot of both it takes ages while the system builds the list. Again incredibly stupid.

I&#039;m using hacks where I store my photos/songs in hidden folders just so the system doesn&#039;t see them. But this is probably beyond the average users. I know non tech chaps using N95 that just don&#039;t bother adding thumbnails or custom ring tones because their phone appear to &quot;hang&quot; while its trying to build a list of songs/photos. 

I can&#039;t believe they still haven&#039;t fixed this since S60v2. Don&#039;t they have testers? Haven&#039;t they tried to get someone to fill that 8GB with hundreds of photos and lets see them try to locate one. Remember the system builds a simple list and doesn&#039;t allow you to select specific folders so your just seeing everything.

*Rant mode off*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to expand point number 10. Its not just gallery but affects applications that use sound/pictures.</p>
<p>*Rant mode on*</p>
<p>Example if I wanted to just a thumbnail for a contact the system has to list EVERY picture in the phone/memory card. Thats plain dumb. Especially in phones like N95 8GB or even my E90 equipped with 4GB microsd. I have a lot of pictures and this is ridiculous. Same goes for selecting ringtones / messagetones. They have to list everything. If you have a lot of both it takes ages while the system builds the list. Again incredibly stupid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using hacks where I store my photos/songs in hidden folders just so the system doesn&#8217;t see them. But this is probably beyond the average users. I know non tech chaps using N95 that just don&#8217;t bother adding thumbnails or custom ring tones because their phone appear to &#8220;hang&#8221; while its trying to build a list of songs/photos. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe they still haven&#8217;t fixed this since S60v2. Don&#8217;t they have testers? Haven&#8217;t they tried to get someone to fill that 8GB with hundreds of photos and lets see them try to locate one. Remember the system builds a simple list and doesn&#8217;t allow you to select specific folders so your just seeing everything.</p>
<p>*Rant mode off*</p>
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		<title>By: snoyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>snoyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 very happy with icons and names.
2 partly right
3 right
4 I can have automatic hookup for SIP and other applications. I still do like to choose the network
I get, sometimes I need 3G because services like tv-streaming are there but cost money. Sometimes I want plain wifi... However it would be great to create proxy networks access points that have listings of prioritized access points to use and hide the others. Reducing the network listings. It is actually what &#039;easy wifi&#039; in Nokia&#039;s Download apps&#039; does.
9 Yes please, as a feature of the taskswitcher. Going to Nokia&#039;s device status app is a lot of work.
10 Got something to hide ;-)
11 Get the screen first fixed to VGA...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 very happy with icons and names.<br />
2 partly right<br />
3 right<br />
4 I can have automatic hookup for SIP and other applications. I still do like to choose the network<br />
I get, sometimes I need 3G because services like tv-streaming are there but cost money. Sometimes I want plain wifi&#8230; However it would be great to create proxy networks access points that have listings of prioritized access points to use and hide the others. Reducing the network listings. It is actually what &#8216;easy wifi&#8217; in Nokia&#8217;s Download apps&#8217; does.<br />
9 Yes please, as a feature of the taskswitcher. Going to Nokia&#8217;s device status app is a lot of work.<br />
10 Got something to hide ;-)<br />
11 Get the screen first fixed to VGA&#8230;</p>
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