The Guru

The Guru, aka Ricky Cadden, started Symbian-Guru.com in November 2006, out of his excitement for the S60 3rd Edition version of Symella. The Guru has used Symbian devices since the Nokia 6620, and is known for his perspective as a power user. You can follow The Guru on Twitter at @Rcadden

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  • Viipottaja

    Cool! I really hope it comes to AT&T with a very low subsidized “with contract” price. Even if that means they screw with some of the features. Nokia desperately needs major carrier support for N Series too (and not just their low(er) end phones).

  • Viipottaja

    Cool! I really hope it comes to AT&T with a very low subsidized “with contract” price. Even if that means they screw with some of the features. Nokia desperately needs major carrier support for N Series too (and not just their low(er) end phones).

  • Zaq

    I had read on another blog that this wasn’t going to be offered through any carrier contract. If so, stick a fork in it. No one is going to buy this for over $450 out of pocket when they can get an iphone for $200.

  • Zaq

    I had read on another blog that this wasn’t going to be offered through any carrier contract. If so, stick a fork in it. No one is going to buy this for over $450 out of pocket when they can get an iphone for $200.

  • Viipottaja

    Zaq, err… well, only that they are not getting an iPhone for $200 – more like $2000 afterr a 2 year contract with the oh-so-special super expensive data plan.

  • Viipottaja

    Zaq, err… well, only that they are not getting an iPhone for $200 – more like $2000 afterr a 2 year contract with the oh-so-special super expensive data plan.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/ The Guru

    Precisely. The N78 costs ~$470, but you can get the $15 unlimited MEdiaNet package with it, and you can use it with T-mobile if you want to. Freedom costs a little more.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com The Guru

    Precisely. The N78 costs ~$470, but you can get the $15 unlimited MEdiaNet package with it, and you can use it with T-mobile if you want to. Freedom costs a little more.

  • Zaq

    But why would I want to use T-mobile? I like my AT&T service.

    If I have to pay for service anyway, and I’m likely to keep my service for two years (as I’ve had at&t for several years now, anyway) I’d rather save the money up front. It’s not like buying an unlocked phone magically frees me from having to pay for monthly service. It’s more money, in the long run, to pay for an unlocked phone.

    Scenario:
    $470 phone, $50/mo for 2 years: $1670
    $200 phone w/ contract, $50/mo for 2 years: $1400

    But most importantly, I don’t have to drop nearly $500 all at once.

    “Freedom” is expensive as hell.

  • Zaq

    But why would I want to use T-mobile? I like my AT&T service.

    If I have to pay for service anyway, and I’m likely to keep my service for two years (as I’ve had at&t for several years now, anyway) I’d rather save the money up front. It’s not like buying an unlocked phone magically frees me from having to pay for monthly service. It’s more money, in the long run, to pay for an unlocked phone.

    Scenario:
    $470 phone, $50/mo for 2 years: $1670
    $200 phone w/ contract, $50/mo for 2 years: $1400

    But most importantly, I don’t have to drop nearly $500 all at once.

    “Freedom” is expensive as hell.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/ The Guru

    @Zaq – The cheapest iPhone plan is more than $50/month.

    The N78 can be used, with 450 anytime minutes, unlimited data, and unlimited messaging, for $39+$35=$72/mo

    The iPhone 3G can only be used with iPhone plans, which will offer 450 anytime minutes and unlimited internet with only 200 SMS messages for $69.99/mo (source: http://ipod.about.com/od/iphone3g/a/iph_3g_rates.htm)

    Thus, you’re paying the same price for only 200 SMS, while the N78 would have unlimited SMS and MMS.

    If you want the EXACT same features, the N78 would be $39 + $15 for Internet + $5 for 200 messages = $60. So the N78 is ~$10 cheaper/mo than the iPhone, for the exact same plan features.

    $470 phone, $60/mo for 2 years: $1,910
    $200 phone, $70/mo for 2 years: $1,880

    Plus, the N78′s 3.2 megapixel camera, FM transmitter, removable memory card, and Stereo Bluetooth capabilities just might be worth it to some.

    I know it’s worth it to me to pay $500 for my N95-3 out of pocket.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com The Guru

    @Zaq – The cheapest iPhone plan is more than $50/month.

    The N78 can be used, with 450 anytime minutes, unlimited data, and unlimited messaging, for $39+$35=$72/mo

    The iPhone 3G can only be used with iPhone plans, which will offer 450 anytime minutes and unlimited internet with only 200 SMS messages for $69.99/mo (source: http://ipod.about.com/od/iphone3g/a/iph_3g_rates.htm)

    Thus, you’re paying the same price for only 200 SMS, while the N78 would have unlimited SMS and MMS.

    If you want the EXACT same features, the N78 would be $39 + $15 for Internet + $5 for 200 messages = $60. So the N78 is ~$10 cheaper/mo than the iPhone, for the exact same plan features.

    $470 phone, $60/mo for 2 years: $1,910
    $200 phone, $70/mo for 2 years: $1,880

    Plus, the N78′s 3.2 megapixel camera, FM transmitter, removable memory card, and Stereo Bluetooth capabilities just might be worth it to some.

    I know it’s worth it to me to pay $500 for my N95-3 out of pocket.

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  • Zaq

    @The Guru

    I don’t suppose I should have compared the n78 to itself as that’s likely to draw the ire of Nokia fans on a Nokia blog. I’m not an Apple fan, myself (I don’t own a single Apple product, in fact). I’m merely pointing out that I wish Nokia would offer the n78 with a carrier partnership; I would rather save the money up-front, even if it means being locked into a contract (that I would be using for that long anyway).

    That’s the reason I compared the n78 prices to itself; the $200 figure is something I came up with as an estimate for a with-contract n78 price.

  • Zaq

    @The Guru

    I don’t suppose I should have compared the n78 to itself as that’s likely to draw the ire of Nokia fans on a Nokia blog. I’m not an Apple fan, myself (I don’t own a single Apple product, in fact). I’m merely pointing out that I wish Nokia would offer the n78 with a carrier partnership; I would rather save the money up-front, even if it means being locked into a contract (that I would be using for that long anyway).

    That’s the reason I compared the n78 prices to itself; the $200 figure is something I came up with as an estimate for a with-contract n78 price.

  • Zaq

    typo alert:
    “I don’t suppose I should have compared the n78 to itself”
    should read:
    “I don’t suppose I should have compared the n78 to the iPhone”

  • Zaq

    typo alert:
    “I don’t suppose I should have compared the n78 to itself”
    should read:
    “I don’t suppose I should have compared the n78 to the iPhone”

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/ The Guru

    @Zaq – No worries, I certainly agree with you. However, if you take a look at the last Nseries that AT&T offered (the N75), you’ll see that they completely butchered the handset with their branding. They removed the handy Download! app, disabled NSU as a way to get the latest firmware on your device, and eventually replaced the convenient Active Standby option with their craptastic ‘Tab Top’ garbage.

    To me (along with most), it’s worth the extra expense to know that AT&T didn’t have their greedy fingers all up in the firmware, after seeing what they’re capable of.

    I agree with you on the pricing issue, though, and wish that there was an indirect dealer somewhere who would offer unbranded handsets with a regular contract, though I know it’s usually against their agent agreement with the carrier.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com The Guru

    @Zaq – No worries, I certainly agree with you. However, if you take a look at the last Nseries that AT&T offered (the N75), you’ll see that they completely butchered the handset with their branding. They removed the handy Download! app, disabled NSU as a way to get the latest firmware on your device, and eventually replaced the convenient Active Standby option with their craptastic ‘Tab Top’ garbage.

    To me (along with most), it’s worth the extra expense to know that AT&T didn’t have their greedy fingers all up in the firmware, after seeing what they’re capable of.

    I agree with you on the pricing issue, though, and wish that there was an indirect dealer somewhere who would offer unbranded handsets with a regular contract, though I know it’s usually against their agent agreement with the carrier.

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