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  • Cheung Yuen Wong
    My operator Telenor has an online music store Telenor Musikk in which they do provide online browsing of contents.
    The quality was quite good, but came as .aac files with drm in which it was limited to a playback of 9999 times.

    Their solution provided that you could download from the phone first (.aac) and then you could download the same tracks to your computer (.wma again with drm).

    I trialed their service under their pilot testing and was quite satisfied with the solution. However do download one and one song to your computer and then connecting via Windows Media Player to aquire a license for each song was not an experience I would provide anyone.

    Note that however I haven't tried it after its official launch as I strongly is against buying music with drm.
    (I buy CD's occasionally, but the DRM on this media is not that limited and with a computer you can easily overcome this.)
  • Cheung Yuen Wong
    Errata:

    I tried logging into the service now and all my previous downloaded files from my mobile are available on the web.

    It seems that I can download a total of maximum 3 times of the same file. Either downloading them to a computer or a mobile phone. (Via their online / mobile portal)

    The good thing is that they indeed have removed the DRM, from their files.
    (Something I critized them for as the DRM solution was very bad implemented and because the tracks was quite expensive back then)
    I'm really glad that they followed my advice, as I know they have regular campaigns to attract more people to their service.

    The files available for the computer is at 256 Kbps which in fact is not that bad.
    The files available for the mobile phone is in audio/mp4 format at a Bitrate of 93 Kpbs and a Sampling rate of 48000 Hz.

    If indeed the files still have DRM on it, it would be in the form of "water marks", something I'm not that familiar with.
    In fact this is the only DRM I would allow to have on any media files I've bought.

    A bit off topic - More related to DRM in DVD's:
    DRM in what matter forms are a pain in the ...
    Look at for instance DVD's divided into regions in addition to CSS protection, Flash protection and Bad sector protection.
    A normal user would just put a DVD into his player e.g in his computer and start to play.
    The problem occurs when you then import DVD's from other countries. Most players sets the region first time you insert a disc without you knowing.
    Depending on the drive you can change this (Usually 4 times yourself, before the vendor can change it addtionally 3-4 times).

    I've managed to destroy one of my DVD-roms because of this protection.

    But of course after that I learned and now can easily copy DVD's and make backup of my own purchased DVD's without any struggle.

    Back on topic:
    In the end all fancy DRM's just renders the regular users with frustration and mistrust, while those who know a bit more about the issue can manage to get around it easily.
  • Olly is my new hero! The online media vault is an excellent idea I hope Nokia wrote down. Having acquired Avvenue, and with the MyNokia initiatives, its easy to prove most of the infrastructure's there.

    I think Nokia's Comes With Music will change the game, especially iPhone's. But it must be simple and intuitive in practice, not just to use, but to function as we always with music, in a more organic way, and not all this DRM, converting, device only mess most services have provided in the past.
  • RogerPodacter
    Many good ideas in this article. However i am sure that many of these points WERE considered by nokia when designing this service. But they probably had to scrap many of them to appease the record labels and just to get the service up and running. For example i'm sure they didnt want to use DRM. But for the sake of simplicity and time, they probably had to settle for DRM in the music just to strike a deal with the labels. Or maybe it was a monetary issue. Maybe things will change once nokia's music service becomes more mature and/or successful. Anyway, i actually use my n95 as my primary mp3 player. I'm really waiting for the music store to launch in the USA.
  • @christexaport: Thank you for the praise, much appreciated! :)

    @Roger: I think you are right about the unfortunate influence the record labels have over companies like Nokia, with the DRM factor. However, my broader point is that does Nokia really need to bother launching another "me too" service then? The launch starts to feel like an addendum, just another "oh, sure, we've got music too" type of feature, rather than anything innovative.

    As a fan of Nokia's products, I worry that as a company they are going to become the "Yahoo!" to Apple's "Google" -- in other words, where Google might innovate, Yahoo simply emulates. By doing that, you are eternally damning yourself to the #2 position. From a hardware standpoint, Nokia have been great innovators -- the only folks in the mobile industry that have ever been able to touch the scope of how often they innovate have been Sony Ericsson (love or hate their products, they've always been interesting, at least up until the last year and a half or so). Now Apple comes out with the iPhone, and ties it into the alread #1 iTunes, and I feel like Nokia is just putting out a service to meet a checklist: phone, check. music, check.

    The iPhone is not my cup of tea, and has a lot more flaws then the Macheads are willing to admit -- but it IS innovative. I was one of the first to say "eh, just another touch screen phone", but the UI does things that no Touch UI has done before, and is certainly more well laid out and intuitive.

    Nokia needs to set itself as an innovator, not a follower; Ovi, Share, etc are just not innovative in the slightest -- don't let the N-Series be the last truly innovative things you do Nokia!

    -olly
  • newtype2011
    Great piece.

    I definitely agree with you regarding the accecptability of a phone as a music device, as this is an area I truly want Nokia to pour money and research into. However, I believe the N81 is their best attempt at a pure music phone, as I personally think it sounds better than an ipod. Further, it is also more than able to scroll through menus and such without skipping the music, as its processor is overpowered given the normal tasks it's required to perform.
  • I think that Iphone success won't last forever, it is like when Motorola launched the RAZR V3 device. It was the most successful mobile phone ever made, but then they didn't make anything more inovating that the V3 until now, so they are loosing costumers to other companies, like Nokia, or even Sony Ericsson, the best mobile company in my opinion, next to Nokia.
  • There's an interesting new application on the Nokia Betalabs website : http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/musicpcclient. Taking into account the article above, it looks like Nokia may well have addresses many of the article writers concerns.

    On the question of DRM... So as far as I understand, Comes With Music gives you 12 months of music downloads to keep. If these were DRM free it would destroy the proposition (in my opinion) because you'd just get person signing up and then sharing everything with their mates. It would be like one of your mates being a local "free" music store. You could wander around, grab what you wanted and leave. Not great business for Nokia or the labels I don't think.

    Whilst I agree with many of the points presented, what I don't quite subscribe to (and this is a UK based opinion) is the suggested unqualified success of itunes. Sure, it is the defacto platform for many because the interface is useful. However, what I don't think Apple has done well is convert users into buyers. This is because the pricing model, which Apple really drove, still doesn't appeal to consumers. Sure there are downloads but they are still a large minority of overall sales.

    Comes with Music is a really interesting model and I can understand why the labels are getting behind it, and dependent on the price point, I think it could appeal to many different consumers.
    1) Parents who are not a little concerned about their kids downloading habits.
    2) People using Limewire (et al.) who are fed up receiving content that isn't what they thought they were getting
    3) Active mobile music listeners who haven't got sucked into the Apple cart
    4) People who don't own collections
    5) People who own vast collections but can't be bothered to digitise their CD collections
    The list probably goes on but I've spoken enough.

    In short, my feeling is that if Nokia get their pricing right they are going to have a mass market winner. Even if the product doesn't quite deliver, consumers will forgive it it's nuances because the basic premise of unlimited access to music for 12 months is just SO appealing. When people realise they can "fill their boots" there will be no stopping them.

    Newbie

    p.s. as an aside - Another bog impact if Nokia get this right is the impact this will have on the relevance of the music charts. If Comes With Music isn't eligable for it's downloads to be included in the charts then given time, the labels could have to find another medium within which to benchmark popularity of music.
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