As I see it from my standpoint is that they currently offers the same opportunities when it comes to software support. (Able to install 3rd party applications).
Without a doubt those small eyesores of mine is because I’m a poweruser, but also because I take the more practical approach to it.
Why not use the full advantages a device can give you when you already have bought it?
(Another thing is also that people don’t read the manuals anymore) .-p

The build quality is indeed the biggest issue between these two series of phones.
We could however takes these assumptions into account:

-N-series users-
1. More “active” and therefore more likely to e.g. loose their phones / destroy them.
2. They switch phones more often.

-E-series users-
1. E-series users have their phones longer and therefore build quality should be better.
2. They need a more robust phones because they use their phones for business purposes in which contains sensitive information.

From this point of view it’s really easy to see the why Nokia have divided their phones software and hardware wise.
But as we already know the lines have long crossed and somewhat faded between these two.

I can live with differences software wise, but build quality should be better in N-series.

Got a little off topic there.
Sorry for that.

As I see it from my standpoint is that they currently offers the same opportunities when it comes to software support. (Able to install 3rd party applications).
Without a doubt those small eyesores of mine is because I’m a poweruser, but also because I take the more practical approach to it.
Why not use the full advantages a device can give you when you already have bought it?
(Another thing is also that people don’t read the manuals anymore) .-p

The build quality is indeed the biggest issue between these two series of phones.
We could however takes these assumptions into account:

-N-series users-
1. More “active” and therefore more likely to e.g. loose their phones / destroy them.
2. They switch phones more often.

-E-series users-
1. E-series users have their phones longer and therefore build quality should be better.
2. They need a more robust phones because they use their phones for business purposes in which contains sensitive information.

From this point of view it’s really easy to see the why Nokia have divided their phones software and hardware wise.
But as we already know the lines have long crossed and somewhat faded between these two.

I can live with differences software wise, but build quality should be better in N-series.

Got a little off topic there.
Sorry for that.

Well at the point being, I am not very eager to see these migrate to Nseries, you know why? When I had my hands on the E61i, I essentially criticized Eseries for being a “truncated form of Nseries” (ie Nseries without the multimedia, but without the powerful software directed towards business users). The new E66 and E71 solve this issue, they provide Eseries with a set of features that differentiate it and let it hold on its own.
As ridiculous as the division between N and E might seem to me at points, there are also moments when I understand that a targeted handset could do better in sales compared to an overall handset. I think that if Nokia wants to keep the division between N and E clear, they will push further these small software improvements in E series and focus more on multimedia in N series.
So to repeat my answer to your question: yes we will keep asking nokia to merge between N & E, but they won’t, and these improvements aren’t likely to come to Nseries. Or at least so I think.

Cheung,
you make a good point, but this clutter problem is only faced by powerful users. And we should agree that there is a very very tiny percentage of S60 users who 1.know about the ability to add applications, 2.know about skyequikey or t9nav or jbaktaskman (though i think the last one is painfully slow to load, and not as useful as the other two) AND 3.be ready to pay for skyequikey or t9 nav when it’s released.
As I see it, I don’t mind having something built-in if it functions as well as the new homescreen contact search in the E66, and yes i am willing to give up on quick access to apps & bookmarks that skyequikey brings, because built-in = faster, cheaper, more reliable, less ram hungry, less battery draining, and more accessible to everyone.

Well at the point being, I am not very eager to see these migrate to Nseries, you know why? When I had my hands on the E61i, I essentially criticized Eseries for being a “truncated form of Nseries” (ie Nseries without the multimedia, but without the powerful software directed towards business users). The new E66 and E71 solve this issue, they provide Eseries with a set of features that differentiate it and let it hold on its own.
As ridiculous as the division between N and E might seem to me at points, there are also moments when I understand that a targeted handset could do better in sales compared to an overall handset. I think that if Nokia wants to keep the division between N and E clear, they will push further these small software improvements in E series and focus more on multimedia in N series.
So to repeat my answer to your question: yes we will keep asking nokia to merge between N & E, but they won’t, and these improvements aren’t likely to come to Nseries. Or at least so I think.

Cheung,
you make a good point, but this clutter problem is only faced by powerful users. And we should agree that there is a very very tiny percentage of S60 users who 1.know about the ability to add applications, 2.know about skyequikey or t9nav or jbaktaskman (though i think the last one is painfully slow to load, and not as useful as the other two) AND 3.be ready to pay for skyequikey or t9 nav when it’s released.
As I see it, I don’t mind having something built-in if it functions as well as the new homescreen contact search in the E66, and yes i am willing to give up on quick access to apps & bookmarks that skyequikey brings, because built-in = faster, cheaper, more reliable, less ram hungry, less battery draining, and more accessible to everyone.

The only advantage with this application is that it indexes everything on your phone including media files.
However as it’s still in Beta it still contains some bugs.
One of them unfortunately is that it slows down your phone quite dramatically.

As SkyeQuiKey is concerned it’s much faster and offers more quicklaunches for bookmarks, applications and more.

A free alternative, but not so good on the search side is the Jbak TaskMan
It’s more a tool compared to Handy TaskMan with the option to have quicklaunches (here you can put in documents and not just applications)
It does provide a quicklaunch for applications with 2 keypresses (+ the typing of the application name)
So if you only need quicklaunch of applications with the more powerful abilities to terminate processes and diagnose tools this one’s the better.

I’m glad that Nokia have been listening to people and keeping up for solutions that are offered by third parties. Being integrated into the system means quicker access time and less hassle with finding good applications for such tasks.
However this will mean that S60 could be more bloated in addition to become a litlle “Windows”.
With that I mean that they integrate so much into their systems that you can’t use other alternatives and remove the inbuilt one.

As a comparison I can mention IM and PPT. These offers essentially good functionality only if you have set them up right (or your provider supports it). It works but are not superior to the other solutions out there.

Same goes for the Windows Media Player. It works, but more powerful alterntatives are there.

What’s common between these are that they can’t be removed (or not that easily), meaning you have duplicates of applications residing in your phone / computer without using it.
That is both an eyesore and a bother to me.
And I’m sure that we all feel the same (read. Crap Folder).

The only advantage with this application is that it indexes everything on your phone including media files.
However as it’s still in Beta it still contains some bugs.
One of them unfortunately is that it slows down your phone quite dramatically.

As SkyeQuiKey is concerned it’s much faster and offers more quicklaunches for bookmarks, applications and more.

A free alternative, but not so good on the search side is the Jbak TaskMan
It’s more a tool compared to Handy TaskMan with the option to have quicklaunches (here you can put in documents and not just applications)
It does provide a quicklaunch for applications with 2 keypresses (+ the typing of the application name)
So if you only need quicklaunch of applications with the more powerful abilities to terminate processes and diagnose tools this one’s the better.

I’m glad that Nokia have been listening to people and keeping up for solutions that are offered by third parties. Being integrated into the system means quicker access time and less hassle with finding good applications for such tasks.
However this will mean that S60 could be more bloated in addition to become a litlle “Windows”.
With that I mean that they integrate so much into their systems that you can’t use other alternatives and remove the inbuilt one.

As a comparison I can mention IM and PPT. These offers essentially good functionality only if you have set them up right (or your provider supports it). It works but are not superior to the other solutions out there.

Same goes for the Windows Media Player. It works, but more powerful alterntatives are there.

What’s common between these are that they can’t be removed (or not that easily), meaning you have duplicates of applications residing in your phone / computer without using it.
That is both an eyesore and a bother to me.
And I’m sure that we all feel the same (read. Crap Folder).

What is the region of your test E66?

I’m asking this because I know that E71s bought in Singapore (with languages: english, chinese, melayu, indonesian I think) do not have the smart dialling feature activated. BTW why Nokia???

The E66 having the same software as the E71, I wonder if it’s the same… Maybe some fellow APAC reader can help out on this?

What is the region of your test E66?

I’m asking this because I know that E71s bought in Singapore (with languages: english, chinese, melayu, indonesian I think) do not have the smart dialling feature activated. BTW why Nokia???

The E66 having the same software as the E71, I wonder if it’s the same… Maybe some fellow APAC reader can help out on this?