Chinese Cloners Cash In On Nokia Patent

That thing is ugly as sin. Let it stay in China and spare the rest of the world this monstrosity.

personally loving the idea, i was hoping for a movable cam part since N90!! Just hope it comes out in Nokia Cam Quality (and Samsung HW Quality hehe..) ;) Should be something good

what will be interesting is when symbian becomes open source. For only 1500, where guys may say it and put it on all the copies. That will make it 100 times harder to tell the difference.

Well as both Samsung and other manufacturers have managed to squeeze in an optical zoom without the cost of size, I think it's about time that Nokia also started to do this.

As far as how this CECT K898 it only supports a 1.3 mpx camera
Besides some other not so impressive specifications.

I really don't think the cloning is really that bad as some of the clones are actually better equipped with things such as touchscreens and better cameras (not in this case).

Isn't it stated somewhere that for an infringement of copyright one have to both look alike and functionwise be the same?

I'm here thinking about both hardware and software e.g. Twitter vs. Laconica.

As long as the clones don't get released with the same trademark of a well known company I personally don't have anything against it.
(After all clones can often prove to be even better than the original)

This is truly Ugly,and I don't even want the real thing to be like this,it'll ruin the N-series Culture

Im dead against these counterfeiters. We have had an influx of new members joining the N95users forums who have either been sold a cloned N95 as genuine, or have been sent a clone which has been mixed in with genuine Nokia stock.

Just today we have had another two members who were having problems with their handsets, and after asking a series of questions, we found they had clones. All we can do, is offer to help these members try and file a successful claim to get their money back, depending on how they have paid, and where they purchased the clone from. Usually eBay however. Its not a nice thing to do to tell someone they have purchased a clone, particularly when your talking about upwards of $500.

We also have many pages that offer help to stop people falling prey to these counterfeiters, and I have even a few articles on my Blogs about them, including the BBC contacting me regarding a Watchdog type investigation.

The software used in the cloned N95's is terrible, and on the latter clones, its actually an older Nokia devices software, which has been hacked, so much so, it will show a result when *#0000# is entered into the keypad, only to fool the unsuspecting, and to try and convince the unknowing amongst us, but with some simple steps to take, and many photos for people to look through, we hope to keep as many people away from supporting the counterfeiters as possible.

Whoops, sorry about the rant.

I'm not against that those producing or selling counterfeits should be punished.

I'm just saying that clones can be sold as long as they don't claim to be the original products.
This again will lead to more competition and sometimes even turn people into buying phones with similar designs from a known manufacturer, in this case Nokia.

In the "good old times" you really would get quality when you bought an original product.
Unfortunately that is no longer the case.
Today, as a consequence of our consumer market behavior the manufacturers produce low quality products selling them for a much higher price just because of the trademark.

I'm fully aware of people being tricked by fraudsters and I'm against it.

As long as the clones are sold under a COMPLETELY different name that's ok for me.
(I'm here not just meaning mobile phones, but e.g. also (hand) bags, watches etc.)

When it comes to mobile clones some even have the support of dual sim which is very uncommon to non existent from the original manufacturers.
(I know Samsung has one, and probably other too)

In this case Nokia haven't even done anything with their patent, that is they haven't released a phone with this design.
That again means the people producing the clones haven't done anything illegal as such.
(I might be very wrong here as I don't know how US laws are concerning patents)

Besides patents that is valid in e.g. US is not necessary valid in e.g. Norway where I live.
(Which in most cases concerns computer software)

Some of the patents can even be really really ridiculous.

typical Nokia, it has to grow on you.

what will be interesting is when symbian becomes open source. For only 1500, where guys may say it and put it on all the copies. That will make it 100 times harder to tell the difference.