TheGuru

TheGuru, aka Ricky Cadden, started Symbian-Guru.com in November 2006, out of his excitement for the S60 3rd Edition version of Symella. TheGuru has used Symbian devices since the Nokia 6620, and is known for his perspective as a power user. You can follow TheGuru on Twitter at @Rcadden

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  • james
    what about the N85 battery??? is that any smaller and the right size/shape to fit into the N96 when released???
  • cheryl
    well i think the n96 is great i got it yesterday and im always textin on my phone and the battery lasts me at least the whole day as long as your remember to put it on charge of a nightime its fine
  • Viipottaja
    The battery is the fiasco???? Again, it has rougly comparable battery life to N95 8GB and N85 (according to Smape). How's that a fiasco??

    N96 may not be a huge success for sure but to call it a fiasco just because a (IMHO) "storm in a glass of water" complain about battery life is a bit stretched..
  • Flagship Schmlagship. This is a fiasco, Nokia. I bet third party housing makers could make an indistinguishable battery cover to fit the battery. Nokia focused on services, thinking their lead was far superior, but what now turns out no longer exists.
  • Viipottaja
    Serko, look at the Smape comparison. Sure, N85 battery life is better, but not dramatically so.

    Michael, I gather you are referring to E71? Well, just four things (there might be others) to note is that E71 is not a slider, it does not have 16GB internal, DVB-H, and the camera module is tiny (read = way crappy).

    The bottom line to me seems to be: tests seem to show N96 has an ok (not great) battery life and at the time of the N96 design and development the battery used in the N85 was not even available yet.
  • i'm so sick and tired of this whole battery discussion .. Nokia can FOR SURE even implant the E-Series 1500 mAh Batteries, but for some unknown stupid Reasons just refuse to! :(
  • The N96's graphics processor is weaker than the N95/N95 8GB's = a more battery efficient phone.

    Have a look at this video for some perspective:

    http://qik.com/video/123733

    FP2 helps give it extra battery life too but once the N85's battery life is tested (it's FP2 too but

    includes a 1,200mah battery) I'm willing to bet that the N96's battery life will seem weak.

    Shame on Nokia I say!
  • Viipottaja
    Without jeapordazing e.g. durability (over an extended period of time at that) and in hand feel and not having the back pop out all the time? If it REALLY was _THAT_ easy (i.e. simply redesigning the lid with NO downside whatsoever), I think Nokia would have done it - they are not complete dimwits. :)

    Blank, yeah,I recall reading the same thing on the new hardware platform consumes a lot less power.
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  • @Viipottaja - Sure, send me an N96 and I'd bet money I could shave enough off the inside of the back battery cover. It was that close when I tried it.
  • blank
    I was reading a review on another website that stated that the n96 used unique hardware. ( not sure if i am allowed to link to an article). Its hardware allows it to coonsume less power. In my opinion though FP2 alone would not increase battery life by that much.
  • Viipottaja
    On MAKING ROOM for a bigger battery within current measurements: I would like to point out that shaving of "just" 1mm from the phone is not as easy as it sounds. These are jam packed devices and every fraction of a mm is valuable and hard earned space. Therefore, I challenge anyone to provide any convincing proof that shaving of enough space from somewhere WITHOUT adding to the thickness would have been easy.

    Now, on ADDING to the thickness: my view is that if it can run for a full day of heavy use its perfectly fine and they would have been stupid to add 1mm to the thickness (to an already fairly thick device by today's weird standards) to get a bigger battery in. Most people do no put their phones through heavy use - in particular after a couple of first weeks of enthusiasm.
  • Now that's an interesting find @ricky; very much so.
  • mike
    Going off topic. I think the memory card issue is because the larger cards were not on the market when the phone launched. It is risky to say something is supported without testing.
  • Al
    I dont understand how they can't accommodate both the kickstand and the BL-6F battery
  • It doesn't make any sense. It's like the N95-3 and the microSD cards: they say max is 2GB. But if you put a 8GB (maybe 16GB, I don't know) they'll work. But they insist on telling you max is 2GB. I don't get it.
  • ashu
    ofcourse, they should have opted for 1200mAh instead of 950mAh. If the current feature pack enhances battery life. it should have done that on 1200.
    Anyways, I am too of the line that if I have to upgrade from n82, will go for n96 only and not n85.
    Lets see when can i upgrade:(
  • Not forgetting, the N96 is only going to get better with new firmware too. Including battery performance.
  • Deelash
    Nokia may continue to defend the battery size in public, but privately I'm sure they are regretting their choice. I can't believe they're not at this moment preparing a new larger capacity battery. The n96 is touted as a video-focused device, it should live up to its billing. That means, in my book, being able to watch video/live tv for at least 10 hours. I would not mind an extra 10g for that. Despite this severe limitation, the n96 is still a more desirable device to me than the n85.
  • james
    what about the N85 battery??? is that any smaller and the right size/shape to fit into the N96 when released???
  • i guess you can never have a battery that last too long between charges but the n82 only has a 1050mah battery and that lasts me fine
  • the size always matters ;)
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