TheGuru

TheGuru, aka Ricky Cadden, started Symbian-Guru.com in November 2006, out of his excitement for the S60 3rd Edition version of Symella. TheGuru has used Symbian devices since the Nokia 6620, and is known for his perspective as a power user. You can follow TheGuru on Twitter at @Rcadden

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  • I haven't tested the latter portion of your points, but we didn't have any problems uploading our workouts to the service on the N97 on the N97 25/7 trip (though we did have to dig a bit to find it). Nokia was also pimping it pretty hard at the finale party, which I mentioned in my post about the party today.

    I would like to see tham fix what you mentioned AND integrate it into NokiaviNe so we won't have to bother with multiple apps that do similar things.
  • When it comes to software services, Nokia seems to have ADD. They are REALLY EXCITED in the beginning, but can't seem to follow through and keep things going to develop the software or service over time.

    I brought this up to several sets of Nokia folk when in Helsinki last year, as after the Lifeblog kill I am reluctant to use Nokia software services if they are going to drop support and development after a year or two.

    Now that Lifeblog is gone off the new phones, Sports Tracker is the only other Nokia software I regularly use and for it to be discontinued would be the very disappointing.

    Sports Tracker is great in that it not only tracks your path but associates the path to photos and video. After using Nokia viNe and seeing it not being seriously developed over after the initial burst of enthusiasm, I am now back to using Sports Tracker. Sports Tracker is more reliable, I can easily access my data both on the phone & on the Sports Tracker site, and best yet - I can download the kml (geopath files) for later use if I so choose.

    p.s. The Sports Tracker team may not be being killed, but may just be over worked and under-resourced, as they only had 2 people on the team full-time as of last fall.
  • p.p.s. Hey, I love the new upgrade to the presentation of comments, much easier to read. ;o)
  • zaki
    hi,scared me there with the title ,as i mentioned on this site I am locked to Nokia because of this application,I use it extensivly and am very fond of it,it helped develop my walking hobby and made me live a much healthier lifestyle.I even got some of my friends to start using it and have logged a few hundred kilometers of walking since I started in april
  • Susan
    I agree with zaki - I use this app faithfully. My blood ran cold until I started further reading. Whew. Never used the social aspect of it so can't comment on that. I love to get the monthly or yearly summary and realize that I really AM doing something to improve my health!
  • Viipottaja
    Yeah, I think you need to revise the subject of your story - even if you are trying to attract as many readers as possible. ;)
  • Eric
    I contacted Polar several months ago about becoming a distrubutor of their BT HRM. I got a very nice message back about a month later saying the "team" was reviewing my request. The email mentioned that they were excited that I was developing an iPhone app for it (which I never said). I have not heard anything else since.

    I get the impression Polar doesn't want to have this product succeed, since it will cut into their sales of propritary devices.
  • I really hope this is not the case, as I love the service!
    Maybe if we start a petition to keep it alive, will save it.
    Remember that they also killed the Sports Tracker Widget: http://thenokiaguide.com/2009/05/12/dedicated-n...
  • Love the app. Even a member of the fan group on the NST website, but wish Jussi and the development guys had the resources available to them to enable them to progress as fast as users wish they could. I have a small group of firends on the services that I comment on and who comment on my workouts, but I agree that the site and app could be so muh more. A PC client would be nice. An automated Trainer within the mobile client would be nice. A legitemate N97 version would be nice (presently no supported on the website, but the N97 versions are floating around the web). These are all things that people are asking for, but not seeing along side smaller website based tweaks. I think this could all be acheivable if Jussi and the team had the financial and time support from the powers that be.
  • I have been trying to buy a N79 Active since three months now. It is only available in a few countries. In Germany they have pushed back the release date since four months and in Spain where I live it is not even announced. I even tried to get it on ebay, but was not willing to pay an inflated price.

    There is obviously a market for the product, but Nokia seem to be messing it up and leave it to others to succeed.

    This company has a similar product: http://www.athlosoft.com/en/athlosoft_runner_en... , but it is just windows mobile at the moment and is also missing the social and mapping features.

    Polar seems pretty confused too. They seem to be the right company to do a product for all mobile phones, but I guess they still want to sell their other hardware. Same problem for Garmin.
  • Lloyd
    I agree it is frustrating to find the touch version (I have a N97) of the application but that is where my agreement ends. I just tested sharing a workout in facebook and twitter and both were accomplished within seconds. Could it be your connection to the internet?

    Here is the link to what I shared in facebook (if it allows you to see it).

    http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=10719...
  • hallax
    well, there were two guys developing the first Nokia app that really generated some kind of addiction among consumers... A

    nd now Nokia seems to be killing it. Man, doesn't that tell everythibg about the consumer approach of Nokia!
  • @christof yes of course you *can* share, but it's a hassle. Plus, at one point, they had an actual Facebook app that automated the sharing. It's now simply non-functional.

    Perhaps I'm just lazy, but so many services that I use are able to automatically tweet when I update them, so I know it's not impossible, nor difficult.

    There's no excuse for the missing s60v5 app, though. It should be available from the site. At the least, i should be able to go to m.sportstracker.nokia.com to get it, or find it on the Ovi Store.
  • Lloyd
    I agree completely! I had to google to find the app and use a posting from Feb 09. Now what about Shazam? I miss that app and it is supposed to be in Ovi Store and yet it cannot be found and neither Shazam nor Nokia will respond to emails.
  • mike
    FYI...I just used Sports Tracker this afternoon on my E71-2 and uploaded to Facebook with no problems.

    Interesting side note...my corporation is considering reducing my health insurance premiums because of the workout documentation in Sports Tracker.
  • @Viipottaja - I don't think it's misleading at all. By neglecting the service and making it difficult for potential users to download the mobile app (nigh impossible for S60v5 users, and even S60v3 users would have difficulties getting it to their phones, since it's not in the Download! or Ovi Store), they're going to kill it by neglect, much like Google essentially killed Jaiku by letting it stagnate.
  • minhtam
    The title of your post made me worry.
    I love SportsTracker. I use it twice a week to record my ride to work. Over the last year, I have made significant improvements in with my ride in large parts thanks to SportsTracker.
    I noticed that if I leave ten minutes later, I actually take much longer. I noticed that Fridays are worse than Tuesday. I noticed that I got so much faster up that big hill.
    I would be incredibly sad if I was not able to use SportsTracker any more. It is part of the reason my girlfriend ended up getting a Nokia as well. and my parents are even considering getting a bluetooth GPS for their E63.
    Please, Nokia, keep SportsTracker going!
  • Shane
    I am a triathlete and use NST on a regular basis for bike and run training. Haven't figured out how to use it on swims yet. :P Anyways, Nokia may or may not be killing NST as the post suggests. However, it's worth noting that we still have the hardware, NST can export our data in GPX format so if that does happen, an alternative, more feature rich application could be written, our old data imported and that's pretty much that. If there is enough demand and Nokia does "kill it off", that could actually turn out to be a good thing for athletes.

    It would definitely be fun to have more social features added to NST like for example exists with NikePlus. NP has all kinds of good stuff for runners.

    I will say though that I have definitely been disappointed with the whole n79-active thing. I am an n79 owner but need the nam version so that's that as far as getting active goes. There are workarounds though, I use a regular chest belt and just picked up an Oregon Scientific SmartSync module which downloads the data via usb to a PC. Merging that data into the GPX output and converting into the garmin forerunner XML format is trivial for anyone who knows PERL or VB. Can't share that way though.
  • Al
    Jeez, I hope not. ST is the one product that Nokia actually got right! It could be better, of course, and should be preinstalled on ALL Nokia gps phones.

    However, there are lots of similar services out there that cater to the iPhone, maybe one of those would step up should the worst happen.

    What needs to happen is 1) ST needs to join/work with the OVI maps team. For the app not to use downloaded Ovi maps is stupid. 2) Nokia need to throw some money at it. A few more devs, an ad campaign. ST is a winner, you can't compete with the iPhone by going on about apps, as Nokia ones generally are... Not that good. So plug the one app that is brilliant! Long live Sports Tracker!
  • Was quite worried by the title! I've used this service quite a lot with my E71 (awesome battery life) In fairness I think the current service is well thought out and well executed (I've watched friends struggle to find an app for the iphone which offers so many features) And in honesty the sports tracker and the E71's amazing battery life are some of the things that stopped me going over to an iphone myself. So credit where credit's due, well done Nokia team. That said I think the Guru has raised some very interesting points that should be high on the sportstracker teams' to do list. Great Post.
  • Adam
    I think that SportsTracker is a great application - it would be even better with the bluetooth chest strap. That as an accessory, together with continued support/development of SportsTracker, would make me stick with Nokia phones.
  • Kappansaucer
    It would be fabulous to have a facebook application on sporttracker...So, there is no way to do this now??
  • You can, of course, manually post the link to Facebook, but there *was* an actual application that would automate that, plus offered more features to really nicely integrate SportsTracker into your Facebook profile. The team has, apparently, let that simply die off. I was able to find the application by searching through Facebook, but as shown in the post, the server is no longer available.
  • davesmith
    I love Sportstracker, its been around for ages now and matured from betalabs so how comes it isn't on the firmware updates for all GPS enabled nokia smartphones. I think it will be a welcomed feature rather than me having to keep telling people about it.
  • I am a gps tracking profesional and i will be very disapointed if Nokia kills sporttracker aplication.

    Maybe we will make a similar service just to see if there is a market for it. Combined with some more usefull services for sporting clubs and trainers i think the aplication is very useful.

    Morten
  • I used Sports Tracker for a while but I've been having some serious issues with the gps location on my N95. Had the same issue with maps also. Google maps doesn't have any problems finding my location.

    Anyway I hope a new N97 would fix any gps issues. I really enjoy Sports Tracker and it's one of the reasons choosing N97 over iPhone.
  • Wilson
    Some interesting alternatives:
    www.sportypal.com
    www.veloxgps.de
    I've seem some others, but not as good as SportsTracker or the above ones.
  • Noco
    Oh yes. I'm absolutly agree with your statement. The Sportstracker-Tool was the only reason for me to come back from Samsung to Nokia. I hope it will stay....
  • Post title got me scared too.
    NST FB app has been down for a long time now, I used http://www.runsaturday.com instead, which has FB support, NST import and automatic twitting.

    I think we should do something against NST slow death, maybe a FB support group ? Online petition ?
  • Shaun
    I have N78 and I used sports tracker for a while, but because of similar problems i turned to Sportypal. It is also very functional tracking service like our SportsTracker with all the necessary info and data +/- some other features, and the social and community sections are well maintained http://sportypal.com/Community where I was able to upload my previous GPX format workouts. Also when I had a problem with my GPS their support team wrote me a solution in less than 12 hours.
  • Looks like the Nokia Sports Tracker is indeed dead: check out the "One in, one out" paragraph at http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/07/30/a-mix...

    Maybe it is lucky that I haven't managed to buy a N79 Active so far.
  • Anna
    I used SportsTracker before, but when I got and iPhone and BlackBerry as business phone, I started using SportyPal (www.sportypal.com). It has most of the features the SportsTracker has and some more. I especially love it since I can use it with both of my phones and I can also bike with my friends and then compare the results (even tough they are not Nokia users, as that was a problem before).
  • alive
    I have forgotten my username, how do you get it? The forgotten password service linked to email address service only send your password to your email address?
  • Mitko
    Yap I also turned to sportypal, have nokia N95, it works good. Not bad at all.
  • Mitko
    Yap I also turned to sportypal, have nokia N95, it works good. Not bad at all.
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