Dotsisx

Dotsisx, aka Rita El Khoury, joined Symbian-Guru.com in September of 2007, and has been writing awesome content ever since. Rita often explores the normal user aspect of Symbian-powered devices, and offers in-depth thoughts on various topics. You can follow Dotsisx on Twitter at @Khouryrt

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  • http://www.nokiausers.net/ RobertH

    my sentiments exactly! Ive been working on a post called “The N of NSeries” which i hope youll find interesting….

  • http://www.nokiausers.net RobertH

    my sentiments exactly! Ive been working on a post called “The N of NSeries” which i hope youll find interesting….

  • Deathbrin

    E is the new N? Yeah, right, except one new shiny E- phone is equal to an obsolete by year or two and competition-helpless N- by specs.

  • Deathbrin

    E is the new N? Yeah, right, except one new shiny E- phone is equal to an obsolete by year or two and competition-helpless N- by specs.

  • Deathbrin

    I’ve been aiming at Eseries for a while (envious to it’s Active Standby, Active Notes (later available for any phone), build and sound), but none of the phones could satisfy me enough to get one. I imagine they are good as a second phone, though.

  • Deathbrin

    I’ve been aiming at Eseries for a while (envious to it’s Active Standby, Active Notes (later available for any phone), build and sound), but none of the phones could satisfy me enough to get one. I imagine they are good as a second phone, though.

  • Deathbrin

    I just wish they wouldn’t separate the good old pushing-innovation-while-not-gaining-crap-build-quality-and-unstable-os Series 60 that was so well ripped to pieces that now it’s basically a feature (or two) per phone thing.

  • Deathbrin

    I just wish they wouldn’t separate the good old pushing-innovation-while-not-gaining-crap-build-quality-and-unstable-os Series 60 that was so well ripped to pieces that now it’s basically a feature (or two) per phone thing.

  • henry

    I recently held an e52 in my hand. It’s a great combination of price,size,features and good looks. All I can say is “The new E’s are going to be a big hit”.

  • henry

    I recently held an e52 in my hand. It’s a great combination of price,size,features and good looks. All I can say is “The new E’s are going to be a big hit”.

  • Elias

    Very well stated, a great read. As a past HTC/Windows Mobile & Palm & Blackberry user, I had only used low end Nokia phones. However, I recently purchased an e75, my first advanced Nokia phone. I like that it is a very competitively priced phone with a full qwerty keyboard that’s highly advanced in its feature set. Ovi Files, 3.5 mm jack, Internet music stations, decent enough camera, multi-tasking, etc. PLUS included for FREE is Nokia’s email messaging service (which for me using gmail has actually performed BETTER than Blackberry’s paid service) just makes it an A+ handset for me. It not only is hands-down the best phone I’ve ever had, — it is the first phone I’ve EVER had that I don’t feel I’ve compromised on in some way.

  • Elias

    Very well stated, a great read. As a past HTC/Windows Mobile & Palm & Blackberry user, I had only used low end Nokia phones. However, I recently purchased an e75, my first advanced Nokia phone. I like that it is a very competitively priced phone with a full qwerty keyboard that’s highly advanced in its feature set. Ovi Files, 3.5 mm jack, Internet music stations, decent enough camera, multi-tasking, etc. PLUS included for FREE is Nokia’s email messaging service (which for me using gmail has actually performed BETTER than Blackberry’s paid service) just makes it an A+ handset for me. It not only is hands-down the best phone I’ve ever had, — it is the first phone I’ve EVER had that I don’t feel I’ve compromised on in some way.

  • ashu

    have you guys held a blackberry curve 8900 or a bold in your hands? You see the feel? I some how miss that a nokia. Nokia has great future with e series and the only factor which will determine e series success will be nokia messaging

  • ashu

    have you guys held a blackberry curve 8900 or a bold in your hands? You see the feel? I some how miss that a nokia. Nokia has great future with e series and the only factor which will determine e series success will be nokia messaging

  • Elias

    Ashu, I’ve had a Bold and 8800, and played with an 8900; the Nokia e75 has a much, much better quality “build feeling” to it. The keyboards and all plastic Blackberry’s creak from the time you start using them. The e75 also just exudes style in a way that the current Blackberry’s do not. Though I must say, I’ve not tried the new Tour yet.

  • Elias

    Ashu, I’ve had a Bold and 8800, and played with an 8900; the Nokia e75 has a much, much better quality “build feeling” to it. The keyboards and all plastic Blackberry’s creak from the time you start using them. The e75 also just exudes style in a way that the current Blackberry’s do not. Though I must say, I’ve not tried the new Tour yet.

  • Merlin

    Great article. I was thinking the same since the time I went from en E50 device to the E71, based on many N and E devices reviews that were out at the time I was shopping for a new phone.

    There’s something I would like to read about next Dotsisx: an article on the state of mobile carriers here in France.
    You see there’s a lot going on on that subject lately in the US (look for articles at EngadgetMobile, BoyGeniusReport…), and since the carriers (Virgin Mobile, NRJ, Bouygues and others too) in France were busy proposing cheaper “unlimited data” plans during this summer, it would be great to write about it and perhaps put it in perspective with the US.
    Just a thought though…:)

    BTW, the Ovi store application has been made available for the E71 in France at least. Nothing to write home about for the moment unfortunately…

  • Merlin

    Great article. I was thinking the same since the time I went from en E50 device to the E71, based on many N and E devices reviews that were out at the time I was shopping for a new phone.

    There’s something I would like to read about next Dotsisx: an article on the state of mobile carriers here in France.
    You see there’s a lot going on on that subject lately in the US (look for articles at EngadgetMobile, BoyGeniusReport…), and since the carriers (Virgin Mobile, NRJ, Bouygues and others too) in France were busy proposing cheaper “unlimited data” plans during this summer, it would be great to write about it and perhaps put it in perspective with the US.
    Just a thought though…:)

    BTW, the Ovi store application has been made available for the E71 in France at least. Nothing to write home about for the moment unfortunately…

  • t0sk

    Great article! I totally agree, I’ve had an E65 for just over 1,5 years now, and I’m completely satisfied. It is so good that it will be difficult to ever replace it.. xD :P

    WLAN and a wide selection of applications is a killer combination – in the breaks inbetween lectures I can read news and mail and so on for free (free, secure wlan everywhere on campus), customization with themes, and so on.

  • t0sk

    Great article! I totally agree, I’ve had an E65 for just over 1,5 years now, and I’m completely satisfied. It is so good that it will be difficult to ever replace it.. xD :P

    WLAN and a wide selection of applications is a killer combination – in the breaks inbetween lectures I can read news and mail and so on for free (free, secure wlan everywhere on campus), customization with themes, and so on.

  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    Excellent post. The Finns behind the E will be made up.

  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    Excellent post. The Finns behind the E will be made up.

  • Ammar

    As an E90 user i must say that the build quality of the Eseries is exceptional & u cant imagine that Eseries and Nseries came from the same company in build quality (may be N97 is not included here).

    But its not only the Eseries team who make the success. The change in the mobile phone uses is another factor. We use QWERTY more than 3 years ago. We use WLAN and we cant manage our life without it and these need Battery life…what should i choose? Definitly E71,E63,E66..Exx.

    N96 killed many Nokia loyal customers not Nseries custumers only. While N97 price and firmware will limit the succes.

  • Ammar

    As an E90 user i must say that the build quality of the Eseries is exceptional & u cant imagine that Eseries and Nseries came from the same company in build quality (may be N97 is not included here).

    But its not only the Eseries team who make the success. The change in the mobile phone uses is another factor. We use QWERTY more than 3 years ago. We use WLAN and we cant manage our life without it and these need Battery life…what should i choose? Definitly E71,E63,E66..Exx.

    N96 killed many Nokia loyal customers not Nseries custumers only. While N97 price and firmware will limit the succes.

  • http://thenokianetwork.com SteveRowlands

    I agree Rita. The exceptional build, and attention to detail really shine through.

    The fantastic industrial design in the E52/55 is what has swung it for me to change my N82 to one of these when they are released next month (ish)

  • http://steverowlands.wordpress.com Steve Rowlands

    I agree Rita. The exceptional build, and attention to detail really shine through.

    The fantastic industrial design in the E52/55 is what has swung it for me to change my N82 to one of these when they are released next month (ish)

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/ TheGuru

    I actually disagree, honestly. With the E71 and the E75, I was *almost* swayed over to the Eseries, but the N86 8MP has welcomed me back to the Nseries with open arms. I’ll more on this shortly, but I can say that I don’t think the latest Eseries are enough to sway me.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com TheGuru

    I actually disagree, honestly. With the E71 and the E75, I was *almost* swayed over to the Eseries, but the N86 8MP has welcomed me back to the Nseries with open arms. I’ll more on this shortly, but I can say that I don’t think the latest Eseries are enough to sway me.

  • http://www.god.com/ God

    While I do agree that the Nseries are absolutely worthless in today’s world, I can’t agree that the Eseries are any better.

    Basically, everything that Nokia puts out these days that is supposedly high end is absolute rubbish, including their Eseries devices. Note that the E90 (the best Eseries device ever) is old. It was made by a different Nokia than the one of today.

    It’s only a matter of time until Nokia will only be known for the budget phones. Their grasp on the high end market is fading away at an amazing rate.

  • http://www.god.com God

    While I do agree that the Nseries are absolutely worthless in today’s world, I can’t agree that the Eseries are any better.

    Basically, everything that Nokia puts out these days that is supposedly high end is absolute rubbish, including their Eseries devices. Note that the E90 (the best Eseries device ever) is old. It was made by a different Nokia than the one of today.

    It’s only a matter of time until Nokia will only be known for the budget phones. Their grasp on the high end market is fading away at an amazing rate.

  • Marco

    Totally agree… In fact, for the first time, my first phone is a ESeries (E71) thanks to its simply fantastic keyboard, while my 2nd one is a NSeries (N86 – fantastic camera and phone, but maybe really a year later…).
    The bad new for me, as an old Nokia customer, is that for a real multimedia I had to buy an iPod Touch, a stunning device with a super store (i spent more than 30 € in less than a week buying dozen of good apps while I spent 0,00 € at the horrible Ovi Store (…and I didn’t buy an iPhone only for the absurd and crazy prices that italian carriers applied to it…).
    I really like Nokia but it’s time to make a real “all in one device” at the right price and not one phone good for keyboard, one for the camera, one for its ram and so on…
    Remember that if Apple will release an iPhone with slide qwerty keyboard, will be a real problem for Nokia…

  • Marco

    Totally agree… In fact, for the first time, my first phone is a ESeries (E71) thanks to its simply fantastic keyboard, while my 2nd one is a NSeries (N86 – fantastic camera and phone, but maybe really a year later…).
    The bad new for me, as an old Nokia customer, is that for a real multimedia I had to buy an iPod Touch, a stunning device with a super store (i spent more than 30 € in less than a week buying dozen of good apps while I spent 0,00 € at the horrible Ovi Store (…and I didn’t buy an iPhone only for the absurd and crazy prices that italian carriers applied to it…).
    I really like Nokia but it’s time to make a real “all in one device” at the right price and not one phone good for keyboard, one for the camera, one for its ram and so on…
    Remember that if Apple will release an iPhone with slide qwerty keyboard, will be a real problem for Nokia…

  • http://iUnlock.com/ Adam@iUnlock

    This is the kind of excellent well thought out post we come to expect from you RIta. I agree with you on nearly every point. Unlike a lot of readers here, I’m not too concerned with Nokia’s latest suite of Ovi services. I don’t Twitter or use Facebook on my phone. What I am concerned with is hardware capability. The very first GSM phone I bought was the N95-1, right when it first came out. Over the next year and a half I transitioned first to and N95-3, then to an N95-4. Both were minor improvements, but necessary ones, which kept the N95 alive and at the head of the market for a very long time. When the final specifications for the N96 were released and the pricing became clear, I felt as though Nokia was deliberately insulting the intelligence of all of its loyal N-Series customers. But I was willing to forgive them if they could make it right the next time. I swore that when Nokia came to their senses and once again built an N-Series phone on industry leading silicone, I would be back. In the meantime, I bought an E71. Eight months later my cries to Nokia were finally answered… by Samsung. After the travesty of the N96, many called the N85 the “spiritual successor” to the N95. Nowadays even more consider the N86 to be its true successor. But in the time of the N95, the spirit of N-Series was technological innovation, or as you put it “the culmination of technology.” As such, the phone I chose to replace my N95-4 was the i8910. The part your post that resonated most with me was this:

    “Users looking for cutting edge multimedia creation had found a new leader in Samsung, those looking for multimedia consumption easily headed down the iPhone path, and those who got sick of waiting went for Android. Come to think of it, Nseries are now for those looking for a balanced experience between multimedia creation and consumption and are still loyal to either Symbian or Nokia as brands.”

    I agree with the general point you were trying to make, but I would expand upon the issue of loyalty. I grew to love Nokia even before I owned any of their products. It was Nokia’s commitment to technological innovation that drew me to the N-Series, and the N95 which grew my love for Symbian. However, beginning with the N96, Nokia abandoned the concept of market leading innovation in the N-Series, just as Samsung began to embrace it with the i8510. So the reason I jumped ship was not that I was no longer loyal to Nokia or loyal to the N-Series. Rather, I was more loyal to Symbian, and what the N-Series use to represent. The N97 is a good phone, as is the N86. But neither of these products do anything to push Symbian forward from a technological standpoint. Nokia may be the leading producer of Symbian phones, but Samsung and soon Sony Ericsson too will be selling more advanced devices. Until Nokia can get back to leading the brand it is most responsible for creating, they will not lead the high-end market.

  • http://iUnlock.com adam@iUnlock

    This is the kind of excellent well thought out post we come to expect from you RIta. I agree with you on nearly every point. Unlike a lot of readers here, I’m not too concerned with Nokia’s latest suite of Ovi services. I don’t Twitter or use Facebook on my phone. What I am concerned with is hardware capability. The very first GSM phone I bought was the N95-1, right when it first came out. Over the next year and a half I transitioned first to and N95-3, then to an N95-4. Both were minor improvements, but necessary ones, which kept the N95 alive and at the head of the market for a very long time. When the final specifications for the N96 were released and the pricing became clear, I felt as though Nokia was deliberately insulting the intelligence of all of its loyal N-Series customers. But I was willing to forgive them if they could make it right the next time. I swore that when Nokia came to their senses and once again built an N-Series phone on industry leading silicone, I would be back. In the meantime, I bought an E71. Eight months later my cries to Nokia were finally answered… by Samsung. After the travesty of the N96, many called the N85 the “spiritual successor” to the N95. Nowadays even more consider the N86 to be its true successor. But in the time of the N95, the spirit of N-Series was technological innovation, or as you put it “the culmination of technology.” As such, the phone I chose to replace my N95-4 was the i8910. The part your post that resonated most with me was this:

    “Users looking for cutting edge multimedia creation had found a new leader in Samsung, those looking for multimedia consumption easily headed down the iPhone path, and those who got sick of waiting went for Android. Come to think of it, Nseries are now for those looking for a balanced experience between multimedia creation and consumption and are still loyal to either Symbian or Nokia as brands.”

    I agree with the general point you were trying to make, but I would expand upon the issue of loyalty. I grew to love Nokia even before I owned any of their products. It was Nokia’s commitment to technological innovation that drew me to the N-Series, and the N95 which grew my love for Symbian. However, beginning with the N96, Nokia abandoned the concept of market leading innovation in the N-Series, just as Samsung began to embrace it with the i8510. So the reason I jumped ship was not that I was no longer loyal to Nokia or loyal to the N-Series. Rather, I was more loyal to Symbian, and what the N-Series use to represent. The N97 is a good phone, as is the N86. But neither of these products do anything to push Symbian forward from a technological standpoint. Nokia may be the leading producer of Symbian phones, but Samsung and soon Sony Ericsson too will be selling more advanced devices. Until Nokia can get back to leading the brand it is most responsible for creating, they will not lead the high-end market.

  • Senthil S

    Hi,

    Well written. E Series taking over N Series. Major concern here being (For nseries users) no successor nseries device for N95 as mentioned by other users here. Nokia N86 being considered as the replacement for N95, it may sell more. I guess N86 was not given much priority over N97 as it was not promoted well with what this device worth :( But overall N86 is rocking…. And Nokia 5800 being Xpress Music phones it wont falls under the category of NSeries.. N97 being the combination of E & NSeries, it price may be factor…. For E Series now Nokia E72 announced in market and it will going to rock the E Series phone sales, people using Nokia E71 will look to upgrade for Nokia E72 ;) Also Nokia E55 also launched. With more and more E Series phones, its sales will get increased than NSeries :)

  • Senthil S

    Hi,

    Well written. E Series taking over N Series. Major concern here being (For nseries users) no successor nseries device for N95 as mentioned by other users here. Nokia N86 being considered as the replacement for N95, it may sell more. I guess N86 was not given much priority over N97 as it was not promoted well with what this device worth :( But overall N86 is rocking…. And Nokia 5800 being Xpress Music phones it wont falls under the category of NSeries.. N97 being the combination of E & NSeries, it price may be factor…. For E Series now Nokia E72 announced in market and it will going to rock the E Series phone sales, people using Nokia E71 will look to upgrade for Nokia E72 ;) Also Nokia E55 also launched. With more and more E Series phones, its sales will get increased than NSeries :)

  • Jouten

    I have the E51 and now the 5800 XpressMusic. I like them both. As a matter of fact, I like them both so much I often debate with myself which one I like better and it’s always a draw. I love the 5800′s screen, but I love the ‘snappy’ E51 and it’s incredible ‘hard buttons’. I would have sprung for an E75, but the screen was too small and the N97 is just way too much for me. The N97′s keyboard would probably take some getting used to since it’s not a ‘traditional’ qwerty.

    All that being said, if I were to choose another phone to buy, I would say the odds on favorite would be the E series. Because personally, I’m just not digging the resistive touchscreen.

  • Jouten

    I have the E51 and now the 5800 XpressMusic. I like them both. As a matter of fact, I like them both so much I often debate with myself which one I like better and it’s always a draw. I love the 5800′s screen, but I love the ‘snappy’ E51 and it’s incredible ‘hard buttons’. I would have sprung for an E75, but the screen was too small and the N97 is just way too much for me. The N97′s keyboard would probably take some getting used to since it’s not a ‘traditional’ qwerty.

    All that being said, if I were to choose another phone to buy, I would say the odds on favorite would be the E series. Because personally, I’m just not digging the resistive touchscreen.

  • Eina

    …build quality of the E series….

    My E90 was one of the first & has the scratched internal screen from a keyboard that is too high – design flaw that they wouldn’t fix under warranty. It also has all the paint coming off all over the place & the pointer device in the middle of the front panel has rust all around the silver border.

    So, if E series is better build quality than N series, maybe I shouldn’t get the N97 after all. Actually I will probably wait for the N900 anyway, but won’t be one of the first to buy – I will wait for the design flaws to be found & fixed.

  • Eina

    …build quality of the E series….

    My E90 was one of the first & has the scratched internal screen from a keyboard that is too high – design flaw that they wouldn’t fix under warranty. It also has all the paint coming off all over the place & the pointer device in the middle of the front panel has rust all around the silver border.

    So, if E series is better build quality than N series, maybe I shouldn’t get the N97 after all. Actually I will probably wait for the N900 anyway, but won’t be one of the first to buy – I will wait for the design flaws to be found & fixed.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/ Dotsisx

    @ Deathbrin, if you read the article carefully, you’d have noticed that I’m not speaking features-wise, but popularity and competition-wise ;)

    @ ashu I’ve held almost every blackberry new and old. They have definitely come a long way, but they don’t have the worldwide availability, yet, to tackle Eseries.

    @ Merlin, good point. I’ve been carefully looking at the french market lately, and there are definitely a few points worth exploring compared to the US.

    @ adam thanks for the compliment in the first place. You make a definitely good point about loyalty. The SE Idou (or Satio now?!) and the Samsung Omnia HD represent the spirit of Nseries now much more than the N97 or the N86 do.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com Dotsisx

    @ Deathbrin, if you read the article carefully, you’d have noticed that I’m not speaking features-wise, but popularity and competition-wise ;)

    @ ashu I’ve held almost every blackberry new and old. They have definitely come a long way, but they don’t have the worldwide availability, yet, to tackle Eseries.

    @ Merlin, good point. I’ve been carefully looking at the french market lately, and there are definitely a few points worth exploring compared to the US.

    @ adam thanks for the compliment in the first place. You make a definitely good point about loyalty. The SE Idou (or Satio now?!) and the Samsung Omnia HD represent the spirit of Nseries now much more than the N97 or the N86 do.

  • http://geek-dream.blogspot.com/ Juan Ortiz

    I’m agree here with the Guru: the N86 8MP it’s better option than any Eseries on the market.
    For a week I just can’t decide wich phone I’ll choose. The E75 was my number one option until the N86 8MP appearance. For me a smartphone must to be a very capable portable device with strong multimedia features and the E75 (3MP cam, single led, no Carl Zeiss lens, 2.4″ screen and only 1000 mAh battery) really don’t give me that.
    In contrast de N86 8MP offers to me a world of multimedia possibilities, with the only disadvantage of the numeric keypad.
    By the way, in the Mexico City’s Nokia Flagship Store one can buy a N86 MP for almost the same price of the E75.

  • http://geek-dream.blogspot.com Juan Ortiz

    I’m agree here with the Guru: the N86 8MP it’s better option than any Eseries on the market.
    For a week I just can’t decide wich phone I’ll choose. The E75 was my number one option until the N86 8MP appearance. For me a smartphone must to be a very capable portable device with strong multimedia features and the E75 (3MP cam, single led, no Carl Zeiss lens, 2.4″ screen and only 1000 mAh battery) really don’t give me that.
    In contrast de N86 8MP offers to me a world of multimedia possibilities, with the only disadvantage of the numeric keypad.
    By the way, in the Mexico City’s Nokia Flagship Store one can buy a N86 MP for almost the same price of the E75.

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