Wampyre

Cheung Yuen Wong had his first meeting with Symbian when he acquired the N-Gage Classic phone. Swiftly after he became addicted and amazed at the possibilities in which the Symbian operating system offered in terms of usability and power. You can follow Cheung on Twitter at @Wampyre.

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  • Andy

    @Wampyre,

    Thanks for the tricks. Does it mean the phone actually supports HSPA 850?

  • Andy

    @Wampyre,

    Thanks for the tricks. Does it mean the phone actually supports HSPA 850?

  • Wampyre

    @Andy
    As I don’t have this handset myself (And live in Europe).
    I can’t confirm this.
    However from a search I came to forum which is dedicated for this phone.
    There they mentioned that the Samsung i8910 only have tri-band 3G with 900/1900/2100 available which seems right from other websites which list up the specifications of this phone.
    Unfortunately it don’t seem as you can tweak it to support 850 Mh 3g either.

    Based on this information I can say that while it will support the US 850 Mhz band on the GSM side (where you can call and use data connection) it won’t support the higher speeds that the handset can offer such as 3G or HSDPA/HSUPA.
    You will be able to use data but the only connection you can get is EDGE which is considerably slower but “acceptable”.

  • Wampyre

    @Andy
    As I don’t have this handset myself (And live in Europe).
    I can’t confirm this.
    However from a search I came to forum which is dedicated for this phone.
    There they mentioned that the Samsung i8910 only have tri-band 3G with 900/1900/2100 available which seems right from other websites which list up the specifications of this phone.
    Unfortunately it don’t seem as you can tweak it to support 850 Mh 3g either.

    Based on this information I can say that while it will support the US 850 Mhz band on the GSM side (where you can call and use data connection) it won’t support the higher speeds that the handset can offer such as 3G or HSDPA/HSUPA.
    You will be able to use data but the only connection you can get is EDGE which is considerably slower but “acceptable”.

  • Wampyre

    The second link got a bit wrong.
    Here’s the correct one – http://forums.samsungi8910omnia.com/33747-post44.html

  • Wampyre

    The second link got a bit wrong.
    Here’s the correct one – http://forums.samsungi8910omnia.com/33747-post44.html

  • http://thoughtsons60.com/ Jonathan Bruha

    People still seem to not understand this whole HSDPA situation.

    Once again, the i8910HD DOES support 3G/HSDPA/UMTS/WCDMA on the 1900 UMTS frequency in the United States on AT&T. The entire point of using the WCDMA tuning found in my guide is to force it onto UMTS 1900 so it doesn’t use extra time and battery searching for the other frequencies that can not be used in the US. My review even shows a speed test versus the N97 over 3G (and the i8910HD won!).

    The tuning menu seems to be generic for multiple devices, which is why it shows an option for WCDMA 850 even though the i8910HD doesn’t support it.

  • http://thoughtsons60.com Jonathan Bruha

    People still seem to not understand this whole HSDPA situation.

    Once again, the i8910HD DOES support 3G/HSDPA/UMTS/WCDMA on the 1900 UMTS frequency in the United States on AT&T. The entire point of using the WCDMA tuning found in my guide is to force it onto UMTS 1900 so it doesn’t use extra time and battery searching for the other frequencies that can not be used in the US. My review even shows a speed test versus the N97 over 3G (and the i8910HD won!).

    The tuning menu seems to be generic for multiple devices, which is why it shows an option for WCDMA 850 even though the i8910HD doesn’t support it.

  • gforce

    where can i get the nam version¿?

  • gforce

    where can i get the nam version¿?

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/ TheGuru

    There currently is not a ‘NAM’ variant available.

    NAM variant would include BOTH US 3G bands (850/1900MHz), whereas the current variant only supports 900/1900/2100MHz. As Jonathan points out, in HIS area, AT&T is using a sizable amount of its 1900MHz frequency for 3G, whereas in other areas, the company uses more 850MHz.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com TheGuru

    There currently is not a ‘NAM’ variant available.

    NAM variant would include BOTH US 3G bands (850/1900MHz), whereas the current variant only supports 900/1900/2100MHz. As Jonathan points out, in HIS area, AT&T is using a sizable amount of its 1900MHz frequency for 3G, whereas in other areas, the company uses more 850MHz.

  • http://iUnlock.com/ Adam@iUnlock

    Great review, Jonathan. I feel your pain when it comes to flashing the i8910. At my job, I have access to thousands of dollars worth of professional flashing equipment for Nokia S40 and S60 phones, so I am totoally spoiled. The first day I received my i8910, we were shocked to realized just how difficult and time consuming it was to flash the damn thing to the version you want. Apollo is essentially the only option. I also understand exactly what you mean by confidence in hardware. I became an avid S60 fan with the N95-1. Nokia’s first real gift to the NA market was the N95-3 with it’s absurd amount of free RAM an local HSDPA. I upgraded to it immediately. Since I retired my final N95(-4), I have missed having an S60 phone that was really at the head of the market in terms of performance and raw power. That is exactly why I was drawn to the i8910 in the first place. As much as I have enjoyed using an E71 for most of the last year, I am glad to have a real media phone again. I’m also happy to be running a chipset that won’t be obsolete for another 1-2 years :)

  • http://iUnlock.com adam@iunlock

    Great review, Jonathan. I feel your pain when it comes to flashing the i8910. At my job, I have access to thousands of dollars worth of professional flashing equipment for Nokia S40 and S60 phones, so I am totoally spoiled. The first day I received my i8910, we were shocked to realized just how difficult and time consuming it was to flash the damn thing to the version you want. Apollo is essentially the only option. I also understand exactly what you mean by confidence in hardware. I became an avid S60 fan with the N95-1. Nokia’s first real gift to the NA market was the N95-3 with it’s absurd amount of free RAM an local HSDPA. I upgraded to it immediately. Since I retired my final N95(-4), I have missed having an S60 phone that was really at the head of the market in terms of performance and raw power. That is exactly why I was drawn to the i8910 in the first place. As much as I have enjoyed using an E71 for most of the last year, I am glad to have a real media phone again. I’m also happy to be running a chipset that won’t be obsolete for another 1-2 years :)

  • http://NoreviewfromGuruhimself!!!?? McWayne

    Thanks for the review. I have been waiting for 5800XM but didn’t buy it. I was waiting for N97 and I am not buying that either. I had waited for i8910 and I believe I am ready to shell out $700 for a PHONE. Does this post mean we will not have the review of i8910 by The Guru. I agree it is not a Nokia phone but this blog is about Symbian and not about a mobile manufacturer. Haven’t we all waiting for some one else to use Symbian in their phones? The review by Jonathan is excellent and I appreciate that alot. It is just that I am used to Guru’s feedback before buying an S60 device. I also want to hear from Symbian Guru Community as to who wins here. N97 or I8910 Ominia HD (considering we remove the physical keyboard out of comparison).
    As Jonathan rightly puts it, this is indeed the ‘iPHONE of S60′…Way to go Samsung!! You showed the world that Symbian can indeed rock the world when given a proper Hardware and UI as a complete package.

    Thanks,
    Karan

  • McWayne

    Thanks for the review. I have been waiting for 5800XM but didn’t buy it. I was waiting for N97 and I am not buying that either. I had waited for i8910 and I believe I am ready to shell out $700 for a PHONE. Does this post mean we will not have the review of i8910 by The Guru. I agree it is not a Nokia phone but this blog is about Symbian and not about a mobile manufacturer. Haven’t we all waiting for some one else to use Symbian in their phones? The review by Jonathan is excellent and I appreciate that alot. It is just that I am used to Guru’s feedback before buying an S60 device. I also want to hear from Symbian Guru Community as to who wins here. N97 or I8910 Ominia HD (considering we remove the physical keyboard out of comparison).
    As Jonathan rightly puts it, this is indeed the ‘iPHONE of S60′…Way to go Samsung!! You showed the world that Symbian can indeed rock the world when given a proper Hardware and UI as a complete package.

    Thanks,
    Karan

  • http://iUnlock.com/ Adam@iUnlock

    McWayne, I have used nothing but Nokia phones since I got into the industry four years ago. Nokia phones truly are a passion of mine. And it is Nokia that is responsible for getting me so into Symbian. The problem is, the N95 8GB and the N82 were the last real flagship Symbian phones from Nokia. This is just my opinion but I wholeheartedly believe it. While the N97 is a very good phone, it is not the current King of Symbian. The i8910 is. I finally decided on the i8910 for myself when I realized my love for Symbian was greater than my love for Nokia. My recomendation is that you ask yourself which is more valuable to you before deciding to shell out such a large pile of cash.

    As far as an in-house Symbian Guru review, I agree. As much as Jonathan did an awesome job in his review, I would love to know Ricky or Rita’s feelings after using an i8910 for a week or so. (Sorry Wampyre, I listen to you on software reviews though.) Come to think of it, I can’t recall another important Symbian phone that has come out in recent times that either of them haven’t reviewed in great detail. So Ricky, do you plan to have an in-house review of the i8910 sometime after Nokia World?

  • http://iUnlock.com adam@iunlock

    McWayne, I have used nothing but Nokia phones since I got into the industry four years ago. Nokia phones truly are a passion of mine. And it is Nokia that is responsible for getting me so into Symbian. The problem is, the N95 8GB and the N82 were the last real flagship Symbian phones from Nokia. This is just my opinion but I wholeheartedly believe it. While the N97 is a very good phone, it is not the current King of Symbian. The i8910 is. I finally decided on the i8910 for myself when I realized my love for Symbian was greater than my love for Nokia. My recomendation is that you ask yourself which is more valuable to you before deciding to shell out such a large pile of cash.

    As far as an in-house Symbian Guru review, I agree. As much as Jonathan did an awesome job in his review, I would love to know Ricky or Rita’s feelings after using an i8910 for a week or so. (Sorry Wampyre, I listen to you on software reviews though.) Come to think of it, I can’t recall another important Symbian phone that has come out in recent times that either of them haven’t reviewed in great detail. So Ricky, do you plan to have an in-house review of the i8910 sometime after Nokia World?

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