TheGuru

TheGuru, aka Ricky Cadden, started Symbian-Guru.com in November 2006, out of his excitement for the S60 3rd Edition version of Symella. TheGuru has used Symbian devices since the Nokia 6620, and is known for his perspective as a power user. You can follow TheGuru on Twitter at @Rcadden

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  • zax
    It is possible to simply uninstall Quick Office update from Application Manager as I did on my Nokia E51.
  • aurel
    This words:"bought" or "purchase" dont say to Congested!Never see the codes games!I must(before send some 15 pms to Congested) contact Nokia Care Support and send me the codes in two days!
  • This is the reason why I didn't play N-Gage on my N95. Still somewhat doubtful doing it with N97.

    I also think they should put more effort into 2D gaming! I have Worms World Party and Sonic Unleashed (not an N-Gage game) and they're the best things on Nokia.
  • Lloyd
    I just quit N-Gage. It is too frustrating to have a game work fine during the trial, only to have it continuously crash once you pay for it (Pro Series Golf). I have uninstalled n-gage and then reinstalled it and the game. I didn't lose the game license but it is worthless since the game crashes all the time before I get to the third hole!

    I figure I'll get java games and save the precious room on my C: drive by removing n-gage. I should've learned when I had my n-gage QD and never held out hope that there would be worthwhile gaming.
  • sorr
    i quit ngage coz all the games are graphically ugly :S
  • I did the same when I had to hard reset my N85. 10K+ NGPs & saved game progress! There's no way I am playing all those games again just to reach the stage I was at before the hard reset. There hours & hours of gameplay put in there Nokia.

    More than an year after launch & they still want to say they are working on a backup system? Lets not be fools here..
  • ashu
    quite similar....
    I have n 79. I was an avid gamer with some 800 odd points already accumulated. But then i am an enterprise user with enough usage of quickoffice.
    I knew beforehand that i need to hard reset my phone to install the latest quickoffice to save my precious little phone memory. I did that. And whoop! N gage gone. All my progress gone! Nokia thank you. If you have an array of applications and if you want your users to use all that, provide me a way.
    I never downloaded the n gage application after that. I love gaming so i bought pro rally, par 72 and spiderman from gameloft to satiate my gaming needs.
    Not sure if i am still ready to leave the candy bar form for slider though (n 86) ;)
    I love my phone. I love quickoffice. I love n gage. I had to choose two. I chose mine according to my needs. Seriously, am not missing n gage though nokia lost me and little bit of revenues i would have contributed to it through my games purchases. Bye n gage. Hello gameloft.
  • Wampyre
    Hehe, royal pain it is.
    I've done this 5 times (or more) on my N82 which was my main phone.
    Upon trying to use the same reg code on my N97 to activate the games I got the error message "You have exceeded the limit for use with this activation code"
    Hopefully it's just a generic error message but I still haven't quite figured out who to contact regarding this.
    Probably going to contact the admin "congested" at N-gage forums for transferring my licenses to my N97.

    As for the solution you mentioned regarding backing up the game saves, you have to have your phone hacked in either way and with Nokia releasing fw updates that don't allow us to do so we are very lost in this battle.

    Other than that you have the stupid "unlinking" of an N-gage account. That is, you can only use one account on one phone. So in order to be able to use N-gage on a new phone you have to first unlink the account from your previous phone before you can sign in to your N-gage account on your new phone and start playing

    So in overall it's a pain no matter how you do things, not to mention the redownload of games and reinstalls.

    What I really don't get is how this lame licensing scheme haven't been fixed. As a comparison Nokia / OVI Maps lets you transfer you license easily from one phone to another by simply checking if the simcard you are using have been registered with a license. If it has the application on that particular phone will be licensed. (So I've heard).
    Do the same with N-gage and the problem will go away.

    There is of course weaknesses in this system such as if the simcard should fail or get corrupted, but then you can incorporate a check on IMEI number of the phone.
    It should be something like this:
    If simcard have license and phone (IMEI) not, add IMEI to licensed. When a new simcard is inserted it then only checks for the IMEI of the phone. (It shouldn't add the new simcard to the license for obvious reasons).

    From what I know both the IMEI and SIM number are easily accessible data and having this dual check will ensure that you can use the games on several phones as long as you have bought the game. (This would even be easier for those using operatorbilling).

    Truth to be told, I haven't played much N-gage since I changed to the N97 as my primary device.
  • ming387
    Yea, I played creatures of the deep for overall 20 hours when I had it on my N95.. then I upgrade my phone to the N96/N85 and lost all that progress. That is painful!!!

    But there are ways to make a copy of the save data files and you do need to hack the phone to backup the save data in the C drive. I used Y-Browser to backup N-gage data on hacked phones. Y-Browser is free and no need to sign.

    Mr Guru, next time you do something, why dun you post the problem on your website and let us minions/readers give you some recommendations. There's more than one way to turn a wheel.
  • Juan Mateo
    I learn by the hard way the same as you, the only way to get rid of Quickoffice y resetting the device, so here my advice:

    1. You need to know that there are different versions of Quickoffice:
    a. PU --> stands for "product upgrade" (the stupid one that use Quickmanager, you won´t be able to uninstall it, and in many cases you won´t be able to upgrade later, any modification needed mean a hard reset.

    b. SA --> stands for "stand alone" full Quickoffice version, only installable on devices without Quickoffice preinstalled.

    c. SP --> stands for "service pack", this is the one that you need to use, it updates your quickoffice version but also appears in App Manager, so you could uninstall it without problem when you need to remove or upgrade.

    Now, how to get the SP version:

    1. Forget using the Quickmanager to update your Quickoffice.

    2. Go to http://support.quickoffice.com/downloads/S60/QO... choose your platform and choose your desired version (ensure that begins with SPxxxxxx).

    3. You are done.
  • zax
    It is possible to simply uninstall Quick Office update from Application Manager as I did on my Nokia E51.
  • Smasherat
    N82 does have UDP...u can upgrade your firmware without losing any data...although n-gage is a different story....
  • Bruce
    Good move! I ditched N-Gage when I had to replace my broken N82 and wouldn't go through the extended phone/e-mail/waiting ordeal required to get new license codes for the games I've purchased.

    What a disappointment. Nokia should be ashamed that they can't manage software upgrades/license transfers when the "mom and pop" game developers seem to handle it just fine.

    Nokia must stand for *N*ice hardware, *OK* software, and *I*ncredibly *A*trocious services.
  • I agree with everything you are saying: N-gage /should/ be a more cloud-like service where settings, state, and game purchases are based upon userID, and not on IMEI.

    But if these had been other games, just downloaded Java games to the memory card, would you not run into the same problem? You wouldn't be able to perform a restore b/c of the QuickOffice situation, and you would have to reinstall and re-enable the games.
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