The Guru

The Guru, aka Ricky Cadden, started Symbian-Guru.com in November 2006, out of his excitement for the S60 3rd Edition version of Symella. The Guru has used Symbian devices since the Nokia 6620, and is known for his perspective as a power user. You can follow The Guru on Twitter at @Rcadden

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  • henry

    Where is Nokia when it comes to competing against Blackberry smartphones. I know the e72 is coming out but the screen size/quality & camera is way behind the n86. Trust me, my current device is the e71.
    An N86 specs with QWERTY will certainly increase sales and media attention of symbian’s non-touch platform. Nokia should understand that millions of people don’t need touch screens, we love our buttons. The Blackberry smartphone is selling loads for a reason.

  • henry

    Where is Nokia when it comes to competing against Blackberry smartphones. I know the e72 is coming out but the screen size/quality & camera is way behind the n86. Trust me, my current device is the e71.
    An N86 specs with QWERTY will certainly increase sales and media attention of symbian’s non-touch platform. Nokia should understand that millions of people don’t need touch screens, we love our buttons. The Blackberry smartphone is selling loads for a reason.

  • http://symbiannetwork.wordpress.com/ Steve Rowlands

    Agree with you 100% Ricky.

    I’m even joining you on the N97 brigade, as, like you say, it may not be perfect now, but they will make it right in the end like they did with the original N95.

  • http://thenokianetwork.com SteveRowlands

    Agree with you 100% Ricky.

    I’m even joining you on the N97 brigade, as, like you say, it may not be perfect now, but they will make it right in the end like they did with the original N95.

  • Victor

    I read over symbian briefs that the upcoming Nokia N86 firmware will include face detection ! http://symbianbriefs.blogspot.com/2009/09/upcoming-nokia-n86-firmware-to-include.html

  • Victor

    I read over symbian briefs that the upcoming Nokia N86 firmware will include face detection ! http://symbianbriefs.blogspot.com/2009/09/upcoming-nokia-n86-firmware-to-include.html

  • Jamaalism

    I know that you often say controversial statements to provoke thought and comments so consider me a sucker because this conclusion you’ve drawn is beyond ludacrous.

    The N86 is a great phone, don’t get me wrong, but it is boring and barely offers more utility than the N95 that I’ve used for almost 2 years steady. I couldn’t wait to sideline it when I got my N97 back.

    Saying the N97 is an inferior device is baseless, as the only thing inferior is the camera.

    V12 on the N97 is 10X more stable than prior versions and since you love the 5800 XM so much as-is, with half the capability of the N97, I don’t see why you feel you need V20 F/W to use the N97.

    A flagship should be the pinnacle of a brand, not the foundation.

  • Jamaalism

    I know that you often say controversial statements to provoke thought and comments so consider me a sucker because this conclusion you’ve drawn is beyond ludacrous.

    The N86 is a great phone, don’t get me wrong, but it is boring and barely offers more utility than the N95 that I’ve used for almost 2 years steady. I couldn’t wait to sideline it when I got my N97 back.

    Saying the N97 is an inferior device is baseless, as the only thing inferior is the camera.

    V12 on the N97 is 10X more stable than prior versions and since you love the 5800 XM so much as-is, with half the capability of the N97, I don’t see why you feel you need V20 F/W to use the N97.

    A flagship should be the pinnacle of a brand, not the foundation.

  • Merlin

    Come on, why are you leaving the date and author name at the bottom of each article ??? Thatsucks big time, and I think you just don’t realize how much it’s annoying since you’re one of the authors Ricky. Each of your readers now has to scroll down EVERY SINGLE TIME (I just did again, out of habit) to know who actually wrote the article and when: that’s an important info that need to be at the top of the article, seriously…

  • Merlin

    Come on, why are you leaving the date and author name at the bottom of each article ??? Thatsucks big time, and I think you just don’t realize how much it’s annoying since you’re one of the authors Ricky. Each of your readers now has to scroll down EVERY SINGLE TIME (I just did again, out of habit) to know who actually wrote the article and when: that’s an important info that need to be at the top of the article, seriously…

  • http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/say-it-aint-so-ricky-symbian-guru-loves-the-nokia-n86-but-is-buying-an-n97-because-the-future-is-touch/ Say it ain’t so, Ricky! Symbian Guru loves the Nokia N86 but is buying an N97, because: “the future is touch”… « Andrew Currie on WordPress

    [...] Posted in Posterous Thus, ironically, just when Nokia finally perfects the non-touchscreen ‘multimedia computer’, the market forces them to move in a completely different direction, using an interface that is currently sub-par. via symbian-guru.com [...]

  • Fab

    I’m sorry but I don’t believe that S60v5 is a step backwards. S60v5 is actually the polished and more organized version of S60v3 FP2. And I still believe, despite its shortcomings and flaws, N97 is still the flagship device of Nokia. N86 is just an imaging flagship. Yes, N86 is capable of doing all things that N97 does but for the most part, N97 does them better. N97 is the better video player and web browser with its much larger, higher resolution screen. It’s also the much better music player since it carries the same N91 sound quality and a large 32GB flash memory. N86 is the N82 of 2009 – smaller screen than the flagship and too focused on camera. While N97 is the N95 8GB of 2009 – not actually focused on one particular thing but does everything else a lot better.

  • Fab

    I’m sorry but I don’t believe that S60v5 is a step backwards. S60v5 is actually the polished and more organized version of S60v3 FP2. And I still believe, despite its shortcomings and flaws, N97 is still the flagship device of Nokia. N86 is just an imaging flagship. Yes, N86 is capable of doing all things that N97 does but for the most part, N97 does them better. N97 is the better video player and web browser with its much larger, higher resolution screen. It’s also the much better music player since it carries the same N91 sound quality and a large 32GB flash memory. N86 is the N82 of 2009 – smaller screen than the flagship and too focused on camera. While N97 is the N95 8GB of 2009 – not actually focused on one particular thing but does everything else a lot better.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/ TheGuru

    @Jamaalism – the N97 doesn’t have *any* innovations. It’s a touchscreen N95 in terms of abilities. The N86 brings an active kickstand, refined hardware, ROCK SOLID FIRMWARE, innovative and *new* camera (not just the megapixel bump, either), and actual new stuff. While I will confess to making controversial statements at times (usually they’re fairly obvious), this is something I seriously believe. The N97 will win, but the N86 8MP is the better device, IMO.

    @Merlin – we’re not leaving it permanently. We’ve had a *ton* of things to get done lately (with more over the next few days) and I’ve had stuff going on in my personal life. It *will* be fixed shortly.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com TheGuru

    @Jamaalism – the N97 doesn’t have *any* innovations. It’s a touchscreen N95 in terms of abilities. The N86 brings an active kickstand, refined hardware, ROCK SOLID FIRMWARE, innovative and *new* camera (not just the megapixel bump, either), and actual new stuff. While I will confess to making controversial statements at times (usually they’re fairly obvious), this is something I seriously believe. The N97 will win, but the N86 8MP is the better device, IMO.

    @Merlin – we’re not leaving it permanently. We’ve had a *ton* of things to get done lately (with more over the next few days) and I’ve had stuff going on in my personal life. It *will* be fixed shortly.

  • http://thoughtsons60.com/ Jonathan Bruha

    I agree with you Ricky, though I have yet to try an N86 for myself yet. I still haven’t been able to talk myself into getting another N97 and I doubt I will. Everytime I consider it, I’m reminded of how much of a chore it was to do most things an N95 handled better years ago. Having a FP2 device with improved optics, awesome build quality, and a bump in processor speed will be a breath of fresh air coming from the overall N97 experience.

    Some time ago, you told me you were glad Nokia didn’t bite on the touchscreen market. Now they have, they’re already starting to phase out 3rd Edition, and their 5th Edition efforts are sub-par, at best.

  • http://thoughtsons60.com Jonathan Bruha

    I agree with you Ricky, though I have yet to try an N86 for myself yet. I still haven’t been able to talk myself into getting another N97 and I doubt I will. Everytime I consider it, I’m reminded of how much of a chore it was to do most things an N95 handled better years ago. Having a FP2 device with improved optics, awesome build quality, and a bump in processor speed will be a breath of fresh air coming from the overall N97 experience.

    Some time ago, you told me you were glad Nokia didn’t bite on the touchscreen market. Now they have, they’re already starting to phase out 3rd Edition, and their 5th Edition efforts are sub-par, at best.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/ TheGuru

    Jonathan – I still wish Nokia wasn’t going headlong into the touchscreen market, and I especially wish they weren’t doing so at the apparent cost of their dominance in the non-touchscreen smartphone market. Unfortunately, it is what it is.

    While I definitely am disappointed with S60v5 currently, I’ve noticed a marked improvement in each new touch device, from the 5800XM to the N97 things got slightly better (though not much), but the 5530XM that I’m trialing is a marked improvement over both of them, and then we get into the X6 with capacitive and other improvements. Just shows they’re working diligently. Also, it appears as though Samsung and Sony Ericsson are both very interested in touchscreen Symbian, so I would expect either of them to contribute improvements, as well.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com TheGuru

    Jonathan – I still wish Nokia wasn’t going headlong into the touchscreen market, and I especially wish they weren’t doing so at the apparent cost of their dominance in the non-touchscreen smartphone market. Unfortunately, it is what it is.

    While I definitely am disappointed with S60v5 currently, I’ve noticed a marked improvement in each new touch device, from the 5800XM to the N97 things got slightly better (though not much), but the 5530XM that I’m trialing is a marked improvement over both of them, and then we get into the X6 with capacitive and other improvements. Just shows they’re working diligently. Also, it appears as though Samsung and Sony Ericsson are both very interested in touchscreen Symbian, so I would expect either of them to contribute improvements, as well.

  • Tony

    Is there a release date for the N86 NAM? That presale link on Amazon has actually been up there for at least a month.

  • Tony

    Is there a release date for the N86 NAM? That presale link on Amazon has actually been up there for at least a month.

  • meggman

    saying that the n86 would have done great 18-24 months ago is a complete throwaway statement. that amount of time is an eternity in the smartphone market, and things have changed so drastically in that time frame. at this point, who wants to browse the web of consume media on a tiny qvga screen? that alone is a deal killer for most people. i mean for god sakes, most non-smart feature phones these days have a better screen. sure the n86 may be great for media creation, but how about for media consumption? i would bet that most smartphone owners are consuming media much more than creating media, and that is what a flagship should be targeted toward. sure, a blogger would want to have a media creation heavy device, but this is a niche case.

    another point is that if most developers are focusing on creating apps for s60 5th edition, its is very hard to argue that a left behind s60 3rd edition device deserves flagship status.

    i think too many nokia fans are happy to live in the past and talk about the good old days of the n95, and how s60 3rd is the most mature operating system nokia has to offer. consumers don’t want that type of device in 2009 when there is iphone OS, webOS, and android to compete with. flagships cannot demand the same geek nostalgia the bloggers and nokia/symbian fanboys have for these devices. they must respond to what the market wants. at this point the n97 (and n97 mini) address that demand best, therefore they deserve the flagship status.

  • meggman

    saying that the n86 would have done great 18-24 months ago is a complete throwaway statement. that amount of time is an eternity in the smartphone market, and things have changed so drastically in that time frame. at this point, who wants to browse the web of consume media on a tiny qvga screen? that alone is a deal killer for most people. i mean for god sakes, most non-smart feature phones these days have a better screen. sure the n86 may be great for media creation, but how about for media consumption? i would bet that most smartphone owners are consuming media much more than creating media, and that is what a flagship should be targeted toward. sure, a blogger would want to have a media creation heavy device, but this is a niche case.

    another point is that if most developers are focusing on creating apps for s60 5th edition, its is very hard to argue that a left behind s60 3rd edition device deserves flagship status.

    i think too many nokia fans are happy to live in the past and talk about the good old days of the n95, and how s60 3rd is the most mature operating system nokia has to offer. consumers don’t want that type of device in 2009 when there is iphone OS, webOS, and android to compete with. flagships cannot demand the same geek nostalgia the bloggers and nokia/symbian fanboys have for these devices. they must respond to what the market wants. at this point the n97 (and n97 mini) address that demand best, therefore they deserve the flagship status.

  • http://nokiamobileblog.com/ Edward

    @Tony, I have been waiting for mine for two months. Everytime I call they say next week!

  • http://nokiamobileblog.com Edward

    @Tony, I have been waiting for mine for two months. Everytime I call they say next week!

  • Patrick Rice

    Except currently, the N86 v 11.043 latest firmware, is the most Bug-ridden abomination of evil, Nokia have ever saw fit to throw our way.

    You can argue all you like (it’s your site after all *lol*), but I have posted about the major issues in detail on sites such as AAS etc, giving detailed info on the key problems.

    And I don’t just mean the little issues like current firmware not remembering “Special Words you spell out” (one day Nokia will finally get wise to checking that in each firmware first, given how many other phones over the years have had this bug that needed fixing), or the fact that CAPTURED photos are not even listed in the “Captured Photos” section in the Gallery, if saved to Mass Storage memory.

    I’m talking more significant ones such as normal landscape photos randomly being saved as a PORTRAIT photo instead (the complete opposite of what the rotation sensor/accelerometer is even meant to be for).

    Or how about the screen randomly auto-rotating when not in use, and then not being able to correctly re-orientate it when the phone is unlocked, if using a numeric key-guard, but worse yet, the Power Button then not even working, so that you can’t even switch your phone off without doing a BATTERY PULL (which with the FM Transmitter being built into the COVER, not the phone, is not something you want to be doing any more often than really needed).

    I don’t even need go on to talk about the incorrect charging/battery meter indications it sometimes shows (which can be potentially devastating), and the host of other issues it currently has.

    So, a lot to make it a white elephant just now, and NOT the Flagship you indicate…

    ..Were it not for the fact that I suspect ALL of these issues are SOFTWARE only, and can thus all be fixed in Firmware updates, IF Nokia are minded to do so.

    And if they do, given that the hardware and actual feature set of the N86 is so extensive, then believe it or not, despite my ‘rant’, I’m with you on this…

    …This really could be Nokia’s TRUE Flagship device, never mind the N96, N97 etc.

    The N86 can be king.

    IF Nokia sort out the horrible bug ridden, nightmare Firmware first.

    So come on Nokia, give us the Flagship we all want it to be – the N86!

  • Patrick Rice

    Except currently, the N86 v 11.043 latest firmware, is the most Bug-ridden abomination of evil, Nokia have ever saw fit to throw our way.

    You can argue all you like (it’s your site after all *lol*), but I have posted about the major issues in detail on sites such as AAS etc, giving detailed info on the key problems.

    And I don’t just mean the little issues like current firmware not remembering “Special Words you spell out” (one day Nokia will finally get wise to checking that in each firmware first, given how many other phones over the years have had this bug that needed fixing), or the fact that CAPTURED photos are not even listed in the “Captured Photos” section in the Gallery, if saved to Mass Storage memory.

    I’m talking more significant ones such as normal landscape photos randomly being saved as a PORTRAIT photo instead (the complete opposite of what the rotation sensor/accelerometer is even meant to be for).

    Or how about the screen randomly auto-rotating when not in use, and then not being able to correctly re-orientate it when the phone is unlocked, if using a numeric key-guard, but worse yet, the Power Button then not even working, so that you can’t even switch your phone off without doing a BATTERY PULL (which with the FM Transmitter being built into the COVER, not the phone, is not something you want to be doing any more often than really needed).

    I don’t even need go on to talk about the incorrect charging/battery meter indications it sometimes shows (which can be potentially devastating), and the host of other issues it currently has.

    So, a lot to make it a white elephant just now, and NOT the Flagship you indicate…

    ..Were it not for the fact that I suspect ALL of these issues are SOFTWARE only, and can thus all be fixed in Firmware updates, IF Nokia are minded to do so.

    And if they do, given that the hardware and actual feature set of the N86 is so extensive, then believe it or not, despite my ‘rant’, I’m with you on this…

    …This really could be Nokia’s TRUE Flagship device, never mind the N96, N97 etc.

    The N86 can be king.

    IF Nokia sort out the horrible bug ridden, nightmare Firmware first.

    So come on Nokia, give us the Flagship we all want it to be – the N86!

  • Senthil S

    Guys,

    I heard on other forum that Nokia N86′s next firmware will have Face Recognition and better picture quality…. First in Nokia phones ot have Face recognition :) Cool stuff isnt it :)

  • Senthil S

    Guys,

    I heard on other forum that Nokia N86′s next firmware will have Face Recognition and better picture quality…. First in Nokia phones ot have Face recognition :) Cool stuff isnt it :)

  • http://www.twitter.com/jamaalism Jamaalism

    @ Ricky / Jonny Bruha..

    How can u say the N97 doesn’t have any innovations, and then in the same breath, mention the kickstand, firmware, hardware and camera as being ‘innovative’ on the N86.

    Lets look at that more closely:

    the ingenius hinge design of the N97 trumps the flimsy kickstand anyday, lets just make that clear right now.

    Not that anyone’s seriously going to watch any serious amount of video on that miniature N86 screen anyways..

    Firmware, like someone else here mentioned, is no better. The N73 to N85 and now N86 firmware has had years to be ironed out….which is y it baffles me to understand y its still facing issues. You’d think they built each phone’s f/w from scratch.

    Amazingly enough, version 12 of the N97 is nearly rock solid and certainly on or near the same level as the N86. In fact, its possible that weak firmware is to blame for the N86 NAM’S indefinite and ongoing hiatus.

    Camera, you got me there but make no mistake, the N97 does not pull up short in this area.

    I’ve enjoyed everything the N86 has to offer during my stint with the N85. Its like all I can think when I use it is “been there, done that”, for the past 2-3 years.

    The N97 brings that change that the N86 simply cannot, albeit interim.

    When Iput down my N97 to go to my N85, I found myself instinctively touching the screen to select stuff. Touch + qwerty simply cannot be beat.

    Add a dose of widescreen, kinetic scrolling in the browser and maps, (and soon to be menus) 32gb, pimp design and homescreen widgets and you’ve got the N86 outgunned at virtually every turn…except the camera of course which, lets face it, is the only reason the N86 even mattters.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jamaalism Jamaalism

    @ Ricky / Jonny Bruha..

    How can u say the N97 doesn’t have any innovations, and then in the same breath, mention the kickstand, firmware, hardware and camera as being ‘innovative’ on the N86.

    Lets look at that more closely:

    the ingenius hinge design of the N97 trumps the flimsy kickstand anyday, lets just make that clear right now.

    Not that anyone’s seriously going to watch any serious amount of video on that miniature N86 screen anyways..

    Firmware, like someone else here mentioned, is no better. The N73 to N85 and now N86 firmware has had years to be ironed out….which is y it baffles me to understand y its still facing issues. You’d think they built each phone’s f/w from scratch.

    Amazingly enough, version 12 of the N97 is nearly rock solid and certainly on or near the same level as the N86. In fact, its possible that weak firmware is to blame for the N86 NAM’S indefinite and ongoing hiatus.

    Camera, you got me there but make no mistake, the N97 does not pull up short in this area.

    I’ve enjoyed everything the N86 has to offer during my stint with the N85. Its like all I can think when I use it is “been there, done that”, for the past 2-3 years.

    The N97 brings that change that the N86 simply cannot, albeit interim.

    When Iput down my N97 to go to my N85, I found myself instinctively touching the screen to select stuff. Touch + qwerty simply cannot be beat.

    Add a dose of widescreen, kinetic scrolling in the browser and maps, (and soon to be menus) 32gb, pimp design and homescreen widgets and you’ve got the N86 outgunned at virtually every turn…except the camera of course which, lets face it, is the only reason the N86 even mattters.

  • http://iUnlock.com/ Adam@iUnlock

    Wow Ricky, you managed to piss off a lot of people in the course of only 12 hours. I guess that’s what happens when you give an honest opinion :)

    Fair warning, this is gonna be a long one…

    I think a lot of people here are a bit too focused on the numbers, and less on the general point Ricky is trying to make. I would proudly proclaim myself a “Nokia fan happy to live in the past and talk about the good of days of the N95.” In those “good old days” being the N-Series flagship really meant something. All the way back to the N70, the N-Series represented not only the best technology Nokia could produce, but also the best the mobile world had to offer. N-Series phones were always just a step ahead of the game. The reason so many of us are nostalgic for the N95 is that it represented the single greatest lead Nokia has ever held over it’s contemporaries. 5MP cameras, VGA video recording GPS, WiFi, hardware graphics acceleration – these are all things we take for granted now, but three years ago it was astounding to see all those features in one device. And the funny thing was, no one was demanding Nokia create such a device. Nokia decided that although they were on top of the high-end market, they were going to push the envelope a little but further. This is an attitude that we haven’t seen since the N82.

    Starting with the N96, Nokia became far less focussed on leading the market, and more focussed on reacting radically to their changing ecosystem. The N97 may be a step back in the right direction, but it is in no way representative of the innovative spirit the N-Series use to stand for. To me, it feels as though every important decision regarding the N97′s development was made by a committee of market researchers, rather than an imaginative design team and skill engineers. “OK, 5MP camera. That was successful, lets put it in.” “16GB of memory doesn’t sound all that impressive any more, let’s bump it up to 32GB, and be sure to slap plenty of stickers on the box that say so too.” “If the screen is gigantic, no one will question the hardware’s graphics or video playback capabilities.” “Be sure everyone knows it’s touch screen. Touch screen are way more FUN.” OK, maybe I’m being a bit too cynical, but other than then N97′s awesome hinge mechanism, not a single part of the phone seems imaginative or innovative. It’s a rehash of features Nokia successful brought to market years earlier, in a form factor more closely matching the perception of what a high end phone ‘should’ look like.

    The N86 may share the exact same form factor as a a few other N-Series phones, but Nokia has continued to make improvements to this design. They have worked for years to improve the internal design of the dual-slide, and finally now they are paying close attention to the externally built quality as well. This alone is evidence that the N86 is an attempt to address criticisms they have received from their own loyal customer base, and satisfy those customers who have stuck with them. Rather than trying to wow potential newcomers with a mile-long spec sheet or a computer-like form factor, they took what they know best, and made it better. Now, it is true that the N86 does not have the highest resolution screen available or the newest operating system, but virtually every part of the phone screams of Nokia’s effort to built the best product possible based on the physical design constraints. Many consumers still enjoy having a compact, button oriented form factor, even if that means sacrificing screen real estate and resolution. 2.6 inches is a comfortable size, and with the high quality of Nokia’s displays, QVGA still gives you enough pixel density to make images, video , and text look sharp. Lets not forget, we’re talking about an AMOLED behind solid glass. Next to an any LCD behind a resistive digitizer, OLED’s look like they are BLEEDING color. And even when the phone is off, solid glass is a very attractive feature. The one area where Nokia is clearly playing the marketing game though, is with the 8MP camera. Heck they even put it in the name! But unlike those features hyped in the N97, the N86′s camera is truly deserving of attention. Nokia didn’t just up the resolution of the sensor and take advantage of the psychological magapixel effect of consumers, they improved the camera in other areas as well. A larger, variable aperture, faster camera software with added features people would actually use, a customizable camera interface, and a better flash. Instead of simply adding more megapixels and taking advantage of consumers’ ignorance, they made other improvements that actually improve quality and versatility.

    Ironically, a device such as the N97, which was built to move Nokia ahead to a newer touch-screen generation, has done more to prove they are falling behind technologically than any product before it. And yet the N86, a carry over from the past, brings new features to the table. The N86 may not seem like a product that moves Nokia forward into to future, but at least in its own small way, it help keep alive the spirit of innovation that use to drive the N-Series.

  • http://iUnlock.com adam@iunlock

    Wow Ricky, you managed to piss off a lot of people in the course of only 12 hours. I guess that’s what happens when you give an honest opinion :)

    Fair warning, this is gonna be a long one…

    I think a lot of people here are a bit too focused on the numbers, and less on the general point Ricky is trying to make. I would proudly proclaim myself a “Nokia fan happy to live in the past and talk about the good of days of the N95.” In those “good old days” being the N-Series flagship really meant something. All the way back to the N70, the N-Series represented not only the best technology Nokia could produce, but also the best the mobile world had to offer. N-Series phones were always just a step ahead of the game. The reason so many of us are nostalgic for the N95 is that it represented the single greatest lead Nokia has ever held over it’s contemporaries. 5MP cameras, VGA video recording GPS, WiFi, hardware graphics acceleration – these are all things we take for granted now, but three years ago it was astounding to see all those features in one device. And the funny thing was, no one was demanding Nokia create such a device. Nokia decided that although they were on top of the high-end market, they were going to push the envelope a little but further. This is an attitude that we haven’t seen since the N82.

    Starting with the N96, Nokia became far less focussed on leading the market, and more focussed on reacting radically to their changing ecosystem. The N97 may be a step back in the right direction, but it is in no way representative of the innovative spirit the N-Series use to stand for. To me, it feels as though every important decision regarding the N97′s development was made by a committee of market researchers, rather than an imaginative design team and skill engineers. “OK, 5MP camera. That was successful, lets put it in.” “16GB of memory doesn’t sound all that impressive any more, let’s bump it up to 32GB, and be sure to slap plenty of stickers on the box that say so too.” “If the screen is gigantic, no one will question the hardware’s graphics or video playback capabilities.” “Be sure everyone knows it’s touch screen. Touch screen are way more FUN.” OK, maybe I’m being a bit too cynical, but other than then N97′s awesome hinge mechanism, not a single part of the phone seems imaginative or innovative. It’s a rehash of features Nokia successful brought to market years earlier, in a form factor more closely matching the perception of what a high end phone ‘should’ look like.

    The N86 may share the exact same form factor as a a few other N-Series phones, but Nokia has continued to make improvements to this design. They have worked for years to improve the internal design of the dual-slide, and finally now they are paying close attention to the externally built quality as well. This alone is evidence that the N86 is an attempt to address criticisms they have received from their own loyal customer base, and satisfy those customers who have stuck with them. Rather than trying to wow potential newcomers with a mile-long spec sheet or a computer-like form factor, they took what they know best, and made it better. Now, it is true that the N86 does not have the highest resolution screen available or the newest operating system, but virtually every part of the phone screams of Nokia’s effort to built the best product possible based on the physical design constraints. Many consumers still enjoy having a compact, button oriented form factor, even if that means sacrificing screen real estate and resolution. 2.6 inches is a comfortable size, and with the high quality of Nokia’s displays, QVGA still gives you enough pixel density to make images, video , and text look sharp. Lets not forget, we’re talking about an AMOLED behind solid glass. Next to an any LCD behind a resistive digitizer, OLED’s look like they are BLEEDING color. And even when the phone is off, solid glass is a very attractive feature. The one area where Nokia is clearly playing the marketing game though, is with the 8MP camera. Heck they even put it in the name! But unlike those features hyped in the N97, the N86′s camera is truly deserving of attention. Nokia didn’t just up the resolution of the sensor and take advantage of the psychological magapixel effect of consumers, they improved the camera in other areas as well. A larger, variable aperture, faster camera software with added features people would actually use, a customizable camera interface, and a better flash. Instead of simply adding more megapixels and taking advantage of consumers’ ignorance, they made other improvements that actually improve quality and versatility.

    Ironically, a device such as the N97, which was built to move Nokia ahead to a newer touch-screen generation, has done more to prove they are falling behind technologically than any product before it. And yet the N86, a carry over from the past, brings new features to the table. The N86 may not seem like a product that moves Nokia forward into to future, but at least in its own small way, it help keep alive the spirit of innovation that use to drive the N-Series.

  • KJ

    I decided to make the best of both worlds! A black N86 and white N97 – both the best N-Series I’ve ever owned – just a shame Nokia took so long to make N-Series phones that have decent build quality/materials.

  • KJ

    I decided to make the best of both worlds! A black N86 and white N97 – both the best N-Series I’ve ever owned – just a shame Nokia took so long to make N-Series phones that have decent build quality/materials.

  • http://www.womworld.com/nokia/11341/is-the-n86-the-nseries-flagship/ WOM World / Nokia » Blog Archive – Is the N86 the Nseries flagship?

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  • http://thoughtsons60.com/ Jonathan Bruha

    Per the topic, I don’t see anything wrong with Nokia’s favor of their touchscreen devices (regardless of how many old school fanboys like myself are crying about the glory days of S60 from yesteryear). It’s the natural cycle of any technology and all too predictable with Nokia starting to shift their focus to Maemo as well.

    I don’t agree that getting an N97 is the proper way to ride the wave of the “touch future” though. I do like S60v5 overall, but I’ve used enough devices running it to know which ones are better than the others. I have been ready to embrace a proper touch device running 5th Edition for over a year now, but sadly, the only companies to build a competent model thus far is Samsung (bringing all of its non-Nokia features with it) and potentially, though unlikely, Sony Ericsson. At this point, it makes much more sense to me to wait until next year when Nokia figures out how to standardize what we’ll see in the v20 firmware and is able to finally build on it. After all, most of the “features” they’re adding are just to make the phone run properly and kinetic scrolling that’s only a couple of years behind another device I don’t have to name…

    Perhaps if my site were as popular as SG and I had the luxury of being able to use multiple devices regularly, an N97 wouldn’t be a bad device to use alongside something more reliable. For my own personal use on a realistic budget, however, I’d rather have the real Nseries flagship, as outlined in this post.

  • http://thoughtsons60.com Jonathan Bruha

    Per the topic, I don’t see anything wrong with Nokia’s favor of their touchscreen devices (regardless of how many old school fanboys like myself are crying about the glory days of S60 from yesteryear). It’s the natural cycle of any technology and all too predictable with Nokia starting to shift their focus to Maemo as well.

    I don’t agree that getting an N97 is the proper way to ride the wave of the “touch future” though. I do like S60v5 overall, but I’ve used enough devices running it to know which ones are better than the others. I have been ready to embrace a proper touch device running 5th Edition for over a year now, but sadly, the only companies to build a competent model thus far is Samsung (bringing all of its non-Nokia features with it) and potentially, though unlikely, Sony Ericsson. At this point, it makes much more sense to me to wait until next year when Nokia figures out how to standardize what we’ll see in the v20 firmware and is able to finally build on it. After all, most of the “features” they’re adding are just to make the phone run properly and kinetic scrolling that’s only a couple of years behind another device I don’t have to name…

    Perhaps if my site were as popular as SG and I had the luxury of being able to use multiple devices regularly, an N97 wouldn’t be a bad device to use alongside something more reliable. For my own personal use on a realistic budget, however, I’d rather have the real Nseries flagship, as outlined in this post.

  • raider1

    nokia n97 will not be regarded as the top of the range device from nokia if it is just focusing on a few new upgraded specs or features. yes, n86 is the top of line when speaking of camera power. but being an all in one device, n97 no doubt is the best of the range.

  • raider1

    nokia n97 will not be regarded as the top of the range device from nokia if it is just focusing on a few new upgraded specs or features. yes, n86 is the top of line when speaking of camera power. but being an all in one device, n97 no doubt is the best of the range.

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