Wampyre

Cheung Yuen Wong had his first meeting with Symbian when he acquired the N-Gage Classic phone. Swiftly after he became addicted and amazed at the possibilities in which the Symbian operating system offered in terms of usability and power. You can follow Cheung on Twitter at @Wampyre.

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  • http://twitter.com/alpavangkanan Al Pavangkanan

    I still use both. I keep the N82 around for the xenon flash and the VOIP capability.

  • http://krisq.openid.pl/ krisq

    To uninstall apps quicker on N97, you can do it from 'organize' in any menu then 'delete'. No need to go to app manager.

  • http://krisq.openid.pl/ krisq

    VOIP is supposedly coming in v2.0.

  • http://www.twitter.com/alsiladka alsiladka

    Why have you cropped the N97 screenshots to be of the same size / resolution as the N82 ones? The larger screensize & estate would have been more pronounced with the actual screenshots.

  • k.ewin

    As far as I know (sent my N97 to Nokia for repair) you can use the backspace key from the keyboard to uninstall applications just as it was in older Symbian releases.

    I have migrated from the N95 to the N97. Things I love are the widgets (weather, email), the big screen with high resolution display, the keyboard, the browser with kinetic scrolling, destinations and HTML Mail in Nokia messaging.

    Unfortunately the experience is not overall positive. I have the following hardware issues:
    - The touchscreen is “hanging” frequently as if it is still pressed in a certain area. This is really a pain as the touch based answer and hangup keys also don't work then. I failed to hangup a call quite often.
    - The camera protection glass has scratches reflecting the flash which ruines all camera shots in dark environments.
    - When shaking the phone while calling (e.g. when walking) it sounds as if there are some loose parts rattling inside the phone.

    On the software front (still Firmware 11 unfortunately) I have the following issues:
    - Used VoIP quite often with the N95 now really missing it.
    - The TV out quality for photos is very bad compared to the N95. Videos are much better. (Hopefully this is just a software issue).
    - When the phone is connected to 3G it does not switch to WiFi when it becomes available. (Should be fixed in v12)
    - The email widget can only monitor one email account instead of showing new mails from all of them.
    - Many applications I used with S60 V3 do not support V5 yet. E.g. I love retro gaming and neither DosBox nor uae4all (Amiga) nor Frodo (C64) is available.

    My feeling is that it is still too early for the N97. When it returns repaired and Firmware v20 is out, this will be the perfect device for me. Also I have been testing a new Frodo beta release that is really awesome. Touch control replacement for the C64 joystick is better then anything available for the N95. So the applications front is also developing nicely.

    I am positive about the future but not happy with the device yet.
    (BTW same as with the N95 when it was at an early firmware. Out of memory errors, charging twice a day, anyone remembers?)

  • aatifsumar

    Wow. your N82 is in surprisingly good condition. My 'c' key and Menu button have completely faded away.

  • http://www.womworld.com/nokia/11454/moving-from-the-n82-to-the-nokia-n97/ WOM World / Nokia » Blog Archive – Moving from the N82 to the Nokia N97

    [...] Over on Symbian Guru, Wampyre has written up his experiences of moving from the N82 to the N97… [...]

  • wampyre

    Sorry to hear about the hangups and such.
    My phone is running the v12 firmware and this problem is slightly fixed. You still have the hardware limitation of having too little ram.

    Yeah, the camera slider was an issue, but I got mine back from repairs the new one haven't scratched my camera.

    When it comes to DosBox I thought it was available for the N97 with some modified settings files.

    Regarding applications I felt the same in the beginning, but I've found tons of useful applications that works great on the N97. Smartphoneware, Epocware, Psiloc.
    It's also the case that despite saying it's not compatible they usually are, so just ignore the warning about not being supported and install the application.

    Thanks for mentioning the TV-out as I haven't been using that much on my N97 (I rarely are in front of my TV). Interesting that you find it worse than on the N95, but I can kind of put my finger on the problem. The lack of 3D acceleration.

  • wampyre

    LOL, thanks.
    Considering that it was also used when I purchased it on the net, you can clearly see that I handle my handsets nicely :-)

  • wampyre

    If you want larger images you can click on them, they are all taken in 5 mpx.
    Cropping them was to keep it more tidy in relative to the post.

  • wampyre

    Wow, that was a neat trick.
    Why did they hide this one. (Or maybe this time I haven't read the manual)

    Thanks.

  • Fountainhead

    I would so have bought an N82 years ago if it had US 3G. Nearly the perfect phone.

  • http://krisq.openid.pl/ krisq

    Pictures looks worse because of the way N97 shows previews. Simply put, they are low res. When you zoom the picture it will show in original res after a moment. Surely Nokia did it to speed things up in the gallery and I agree, they can look horrible sometimes. Especially through TV-out. Let's hope v2.0 will do something about it.

  • k.ewin

    The problem with DosBox is somewhat typical for the N97. It is not stable, as the developer does not have a S60v5 device and testing in the emulator is not the same. But according to his comments this should change soon and I expect a stable version later this year.

    The problem with TV-out is that it works differently than before. The N95 with it’s low resolution user interface sent pictures to the TV always at higher resolutions than the UI. This resulted in limitations, e.g. zooming was not possible with TV-out but great picture quality. The N97 does not seem to have an optimized mode for picture display. It shows the full (now high-res) user interface of the picture gallery on TV. Somehow this ruins the picture quality. Video mode is different though.

  • twittervlog

    Great review. Am N82 user, about to move on, although probably to N86 or N900.
    But N97 won't play m4v? That's weird – and annoying.

  • http://snoyt.vox.com/ Dirk Snoyt

    I really miss the Xenon flash and the superior AF focus light. Even the MP4 recordings were better. Stability of the N82 is awesome. Firmware 2.0 better be rock stable.

  • http://snoyt.vox.com/ Dirk Snoyt

    SIP support is in V12. Did not test it. But it is there. uPnP is missing… Gruesome!

  • JuWlz

    “If there is really one thing I miss which was really convenient on the N82, it must be the easy uninstall of applications. With a simple press on the c button (delete) the application that was highlighted would be uninstalled. On the N97 you have to go into settings – application manager to do so.”
    Actually, no, you don't. With the Apps list in organise mode on the N97, you can press the backspace key to delete an application.

  • wampyre

    It's weird as you said considering that it's a flagship handset.
    And being “multimedia computers” they should had been able to do that.

    I was actually considering the N86 myself for some time but I didn't offer too much in upgrade from the N82 and I went for the N97 for something fresh. The N86 is a great choice if you want a good camera phone while the N900 offers new interface and a qwerty keyboard. N900 is also better in terms of specifications but as it runs Maemo and not Symbian, applications you've previously bought won't work on it. That's the really downside of it and you'll experience what k.ewin said about not having many applications out there. (That's at least in the beginning)

  • http://twitter.com/cuberob Rob de Knegt

    i went from n95-8gb –> 5800 —> n97 and i've really been enjoying it.
    There are just 2 things that annoy me about the n97: 1. Ram (obviously), i really hope this gets better with v20…
    2. The battery, yes it has a big battery but still, when i keep nokia messaging running in the background i always find myself with a dead battery at the end of the evening/night/depends (read especcially weekends, I like listening to some music on my way home from the pub/club at 3am but this often fails… which im really bummed about at that hour :P(a))

  • http://twitter.com/cuberob Rob de Knegt

    i went from n95-8gb –> 5800 —> n97 and i've really been enjoying it.
    There are just 2 things that annoy me about the n97: 1. Ram (obviously), i really hope this gets better with v20…
    2. The battery, yes it has a big battery but still, when i keep nokia messaging running in the background i always find myself with a dead battery at the end of the evening/night/depends (read especcially weekends, I like listening to some music on my way home from the pub/club at 3am but this often fails… which im really bummed about at that hour :P(a))

  • http://www.s1te.net David

    I have also traded up to the n97 from n82, the n82 had hardly any issues… where as the new supposidly flagship “n97″ has a large amount.

    Im unsure how such a device could have been launched without major testing?

    Ive had Nokia phones since 1997 – now may be the time to look at other makese/models

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