Dotsisx

Dotsisx, aka Rita El Khoury, joined Symbian-Guru.com in September of 2007, and has been writing awesome content ever since. Rita often explores the normal user aspect of Symbian-powered devices, and offers in-depth thoughts on various topics. You can follow Dotsisx on Twitter at @Khouryrt

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  • andlsonmarcelino

    Rita, I always read and always like and agree with your thoughts, but this time, i don't. Don´t get me wrong, but you aren´t the rule now, you are the exception, the most part of the world use Windows plataform and the way to do things on MAC is only for to be useful, not to be perfect or pratical.

  • http://krisq.openid.pl/ krisq

    What about software updater on the phone? Doesn't E71 have it?

  • apurvgupta

    You are right absolutely, so much of downloading is required to get to install the 4mb file which is ovi maps . And that can easily be avoided.

  • froschy

    I think you might have missed the point of this article, my read of it is that Rita is advocating an OS agnostic method for updating the Maps application via the Ovi Store. The power of services like this for a mobile device is the ability to remove the dependancy on any computer, PC or Mac.

    @ Rita – I suspect there maybe something more to the installation of Maps that requires the updater rather than just an install from a sis file, possibly something to do with the map data already on the device. Just a theory/speculation on my part.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com khouryrt

    No the E71 doesn't have a software updater, neither does it have a firmware OTA… it's FP1 days :(

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com khouryrt

    It's not about practicality here, it's about ruining the experience for a first time user. There is not one software to install to get everything with nokia (like apple has with iTunes), no, you install something and then discover you need another thing to make the first one work, and a third thing to make the second one work. This is ridiculous.
    As I stated, the 4-5MB file could have been easily provided through Ovi Store. At least, that's what other companies who are careful about the user experience would've done.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com khouryrt

    Yes Maps Data needs to be updated, but it could be done in another way. Say I download Ovi Maps from the Ovi Store, and before and after installation it warns me abt my Maps Data. After the install is done, it could tell me that my maps data won't work until I connect my phone to a computer to update them via the Map Loader.
    The point of this whole post is that usually you can get by without any need for Windows on the Mac when you have a Symbian phone, then comes Maps and u have to start from scratch for a silly little 5MB file. It's not even funny. And the fact that MapLoader is available for the Mac while Maps Updater isn't is just like stabbing someone in the back and turning the knife in the wound to enlarge it.

  • froschy

    I wasn't disagreeing with you, rather playing devil's advocate in relation to the technical requirements for doing this.

    As a fellow Mac user I can sympathise as I have felt the frustration of Nokia's poor software implementation and fractured services. IMHO Nokia still think that the software experience comes a very distant second to the hardware experience. Apple, although not perfect, realise that a good software/ui experience in a device is key to widespread adoption unlike Nokia devices which require a lot of effort to get working to a satisfactory level. As an example of this I would definitely recommend and setup an iPhone for my non-tech literate relatives & friends but I would never recommend a Nokia as they would have a poor experience and I would be lumped with a huge overhead to maintain these phones.

  • Jeff

    Hell yeah, totally agree!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=196603852 facebook-196603852

    You can download the nokia maps file and bluetooth it to yourself. that is what I do.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com khouryrt

    Yeah, but were do you download it from? It's not available from Nokia officially, and it's really hard to find it on the internet. The point is that it shouldn't be this way.

  • Smaragd
  • Smaragd

    There are even direct links from the Nokia server, but someone made it easier to access them.

    http://blog.martinletis.com/2008/02/nokia-maps-…

  • Abhi

    So I should be searching the web and following links from blogs to download an official nokia map application?

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com khouryrt

    Those are the links for the maps data, and Lebanon maps (which are the ones that got me started through it all) aren't in any of those pages. The point that I'm making isn't for the maps data itself, there is a MapLoader app for both PC and Mac and it works well, the point is for the Maps Updater app that is only available for PC and that has you jumping through hoops (even on PC) for a 4-5MB .sis file.

  • Abhi

    So I should be searching the web and following links from blogs to download an official nokia map application?

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com khouryrt

    Those are the links for the maps data, and Lebanon maps (which are the ones that got me started through it all) aren't in any of those pages. The point that I'm making isn't for the maps data itself, there is a MapLoader app for both PC and Mac and it works well, the point is for the Maps Updater app that is only available for PC and that has you jumping through hoops (even on PC) for a 4-5MB .sis file.

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2009/12/symbian-gurus-2009-top-5-applications-for-mac-users.html Symbian-Guru’s 2009 Top 5 Applications For Mac Users | Symbian-Guru.com

    [...] and synchronization, DoubleTwist and Salling Media Sync which are both media management tools, and Nokia’s Maploader which still suffers from relying on the Windows-only Maps [...]

  • http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2010/01/new-ovi-maps-simplifies-the-experience-for-mac-users-thanks-nokia.html New Ovi Maps Simplifies The Experience For Mac Users, Thanks Nokia | Symbian-Guru.com

    [...] might recall that a while ago, I wrote about my disastrous experience trying to update the Lebanon maps on my Nokia E71 through MapLoader on my Macbook, and how I had to go through hoops with Maps [...]

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