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		<title>By: Dam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VERY good article. I live in the EU but am not so crazy about being connected; in fact, I&#039;m willing to wait and do my job whenever I access a free WiFi, instead of paying for a 3G just to fulfill my &quot;need&quot; there and then. Fake needs, anyhow...
As for marketing plans... I&#039;m not the one to say if emerging markets and their huge number of buyers will beat the fast-buying US/EU consumers. But it smells like success.

Anyhow, I joined this article wondering if my next phone would be Android or Symbian. Glad I found you, and the answer!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VERY good article. I live in the EU but am not so crazy about being connected; in fact, I&#8217;m willing to wait and do my job whenever I access a free WiFi, instead of paying for a 3G just to fulfill my &#8220;need&#8221; there and then. Fake needs, anyhow&#8230;<br />
As for marketing plans&#8230; I&#8217;m not the one to say if emerging markets and their huge number of buyers will beat the fast-buying US/EU consumers. But it smells like success.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I joined this article wondering if my next phone would be Android or Symbian. Glad I found you, and the answer!</p>
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		<title>By: blokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>blokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that in many occasions people have to travel and live in other countries to really understand the differences that can exist. Its a fundamental part of life and life experiences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;when 90% of the world doesnt have the infrastructure or resources to support the &quot;full web experience&quot; of the top end smartphones, it makes the international strategies of smartphone manufacturers like iphone and htc look rather introverted and insular.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;just recently, nokia announced a new cheap range of smartphones which will do very well in the emerging markets. These markets will shape the world in this coming century... if you do not accept this, then focussing on providing the &quot;full web experience&quot; will see you feeling left out at the end of it all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is not about dumbing down your work, its about making it more efficient. In countries where they have less resources than the US, they just make the most out of the little they have. In the US its much easier to just use/buy more bandwith or powerful equipment as its all readily available. There is not such a need for effeciency and there is less of a need to achieve it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, with the growth in the emerging markets you will actually end up at a disadvantge when compared to your third world counterparts as they will be more effecient than you, achieving much more, with much less.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Using heavy data networks and paying extra for new and powerful equipment is not actually innovative. Using limited euipment and resources to achieve the same thing however, is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that in many occasions people have to travel and live in other countries to really understand the differences that can exist. Its a fundamental part of life and life experiences.</p>
<p>when 90% of the world doesnt have the infrastructure or resources to support the &#8220;full web experience&#8221; of the top end smartphones, it makes the international strategies of smartphone manufacturers like iphone and htc look rather introverted and insular.</p>
<p>just recently, nokia announced a new cheap range of smartphones which will do very well in the emerging markets. These markets will shape the world in this coming century&#8230; if you do not accept this, then focussing on providing the &#8220;full web experience&#8221; will see you feeling left out at the end of it all.</p>
<p>It is not about dumbing down your work, its about making it more efficient. In countries where they have less resources than the US, they just make the most out of the little they have. In the US its much easier to just use/buy more bandwith or powerful equipment as its all readily available. There is not such a need for effeciency and there is less of a need to achieve it.</p>
<p>However, with the growth in the emerging markets you will actually end up at a disadvantge when compared to your third world counterparts as they will be more effecient than you, achieving much more, with much less.</p>
<p>Using heavy data networks and paying extra for new and powerful equipment is not actually innovative. Using limited euipment and resources to achieve the same thing however, is.</p>
<p>Great article</p>
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		<title>By: dot Blog. The week in links 08/02/10</title>
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		<dc:creator>dot Blog. The week in links 08/02/10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Castro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also please all keep in mind that in emerging markets the minimun wage is WAY below what people get paid in first world countries. For example $15 is three times what most people earn a full day of hard work in mexico (you get that in 2 hours of work in the US), most people do not earn more than $150 a month, and moreover they have to pay more important stuff like water, electricity, rent, food, schools and other basic stuff for the whole family which is large most of time, and if that&#039;s not enough, mexico is known for having some of the most expensive basic services in the world, being cellular service one of them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s why Nokia is a big winner in emerging markets, they give basic phones to the masses who cannot even think of having a data plan, they just buy prepaid, which is also very popular here with the low class people which accounts for 50% of the population.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the other hand the medium class which is like 40% of the population can pay some services like wifi, and then buy some phones that may be able to connect to it, the 5530 comes to mind here: cheap, and very well equiped. Still data plans are out of reach for most of this class.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Either, Nokia phones are the best option always, they are cheap and most important, there are many choices that can please almost anybody. If you want a cheap touchscreen, but have no wifi, there&#039;s the 5230, or if you want something cheap but very well equiped theres the 5800. Or if you want the most basic, the 1100 is for you!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want everything, you have the high end phones like the N900, N97, N86 and so on... Americans and europeans tend to forget that the wifi isnt as ubiquitious on other countries like in theirs, and that their cheap plans can be very expensive and out of reach for most people on other countries, even when some data services are from the stone age.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also please all keep in mind that in emerging markets the minimun wage is WAY below what people get paid in first world countries. For example $15 is three times what most people earn a full day of hard work in mexico (you get that in 2 hours of work in the US), most people do not earn more than $150 a month, and moreover they have to pay more important stuff like water, electricity, rent, food, schools and other basic stuff for the whole family which is large most of time, and if that&#39;s not enough, mexico is known for having some of the most expensive basic services in the world, being cellular service one of them.</p>
<p>That&#39;s why Nokia is a big winner in emerging markets, they give basic phones to the masses who cannot even think of having a data plan, they just buy prepaid, which is also very popular here with the low class people which accounts for 50% of the population.</p>
<p>On the other hand the medium class which is like 40% of the population can pay some services like wifi, and then buy some phones that may be able to connect to it, the 5530 comes to mind here: cheap, and very well equiped. Still data plans are out of reach for most of this class.</p>
<p>Either, Nokia phones are the best option always, they are cheap and most important, there are many choices that can please almost anybody. If you want a cheap touchscreen, but have no wifi, there&#39;s the 5230, or if you want something cheap but very well equiped theres the 5800. Or if you want the most basic, the 1100 is for you!</p>
<p>If you want everything, you have the high end phones like the N900, N97, N86 and so on&#8230; Americans and europeans tend to forget that the wifi isnt as ubiquitious on other countries like in theirs, and that their cheap plans can be very expensive and out of reach for most people on other countries, even when some data services are from the stone age.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: DrDark</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the N900 does have an &quot;always ask&quot; option for connecting to the internet. Though I use it more for saving battery life than limiting data :). I agree you can&#039;t really use the N900 without a limited data plan though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the N900 does have an &#8220;always ask&#8221; option for connecting to the internet. Though I use it more for saving battery life than limiting data :). I agree you can&#39;t really use the N900 without a limited data plan though.</p>
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		<title>By: khouryrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>khouryrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I would better replace that last question with &quot;does Nokia&#039;s success in emerging markets stem from their understanding and adapting to the state of the carrier service providers?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I would better replace that last question with &#8220;does Nokia&#39;s success in emerging markets stem from their understanding and adapting to the state of the carrier service providers?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And i live in the midle of europe in switzerland, without any dataplan. It doesnt cost too much, but i prefer do my job and not to surf in internet :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And i live in the midle of europe in switzerland, without any dataplan. It doesnt cost too much, but i prefer do my job and not to surf in internet :-)</p>
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		<title>By: khouryrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>khouryrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always an honor to hear your good words Antoine. I&#039;m looking forward to what you have to say about it on MMM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always an honor to hear your good words Antoine. I&#39;m looking forward to what you have to say about it on MMM.</p>
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		<title>By: khouryrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>khouryrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Jonathan, I had 3G in Paris and I didn&#039;t use it all that much because it consumed battery power a bit too fast for my liking. I used to force edge-only most of the time, then switch to 3g when i had a big download or wanted to watch tv over 3g. So there are definitely things I would do that I don&#039;t dare doing now, like downloading files or maybe browsing on Opera Mobile instead of Opera Mini, or streaming youtube, if I knew I had 3G and a better bandwidth. Meanwhile, I&#039;ve learned to live with the limitation and to make the most of what I have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Jonathan, I had 3G in Paris and I didn&#39;t use it all that much because it consumed battery power a bit too fast for my liking. I used to force edge-only most of the time, then switch to 3g when i had a big download or wanted to watch tv over 3g. So there are definitely things I would do that I don&#39;t dare doing now, like downloading files or maybe browsing on Opera Mobile instead of Opera Mini, or streaming youtube, if I knew I had 3G and a better bandwidth. Meanwhile, I&#39;ve learned to live with the limitation and to make the most of what I have.</p>
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		<title>By: khouryrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>khouryrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We often pay dearly for the hardware and software we CAN get, much more than people in North America or EU have to pay&quot;&lt;br&gt;Definitely. That&#039;s another point that they don&#039;t get. We don&#039;t have subsidized handsets in Lebanon so we often pay the full 500$ - 700$ price for a phone, yet we keep being treated as crap with services coming our way 2 or 3 years after the important markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We often pay dearly for the hardware and software we CAN get, much more than people in North America or EU have to pay&#8221;<br />Definitely. That&#39;s another point that they don&#39;t get. We don&#39;t have subsidized handsets in Lebanon so we often pay the full 500$ &#8211; 700$ price for a phone, yet we keep being treated as crap with services coming our way 2 or 3 years after the important markets.</p>
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