Dotsisx

Dotsisx, aka Rita El Khoury, joined Symbian-Guru.com in September of 2007, and has been writing awesome content ever since. Rita often explores the normal user aspect of Symbian-powered devices, and offers in-depth thoughts on various topics. You can follow Dotsisx on Twitter at @Khouryrt

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  • http://www.punitpandey.com Punit Pandey

    Dotsisx, interesting thought. I agree to a great extent.

  • CwMbest

    I cant answer your question: but i know one thing: They should stop launching low cost hndsets everyweekend. Also there´s a lot to do (even in Symbian^3) (like the resolution, tiny widgets, loads of UI improvements and so on) and I dont think a 1000 Dollar Phone will help Nokia.

  • http://rishminder.wordpress.com Rishminder Singh Sidhu

    very well put Rita, this the state that nokia finds itself in, and heck yeah nokia shud make a 800 – 1000$ phone, carm all the latest state or technology into, just like they did with N95, the hardware faeture set that the most sought after iphone 4 is still coming to terms with.

  • As213

    Good Point Rita. But Price is not so important the flagship must be a device who others look jealous at it.

  • munkimatt

    I think you're right Rita, they need a device that people 'aspire' to own, not one that they could afford from their monthly wage packet.

  • Rosseirc

    I desagree. It's true that is part of a mrketing strategy to se tprices so it becames for an elite. However nokia's strategy is to bring out the tech. Their services, ovi maps, ovi chat, contacts etc. are based on many people having nokia headsets. basicly is a product that more people are using, better it is and more people wants to have it. By having a high market share, 3th partyes will also produce apps for nokia devises, instead of doing a lots of ihphone apps (as is the case today). What is strange is that also if the tech is out there, they don't do the super phone yet. I mean a phone with great ram, projektor, great processor. a real superphone. That could be high priced. at the end of the day, is the nokia n95 that is still on of the best headset ever producsed, and it is few years old.

  • Lloyd

    In a word, No. They are better investing money to improve the phones they are releasing now ad need to identify a way to get to market faster and with quality. Apple introduces 1 or 2 phones a year and htc introduces quite a few. Nokia should learn and fall somewhere in between.

    It is also better for Nokia to do some advertising for their products, at least in the U.S. How many commercials have we seen for Apple, htc and other Android phones? I bet you can’t count. But it is easier to count the Nokia commercials and would take only a couple of fingers on one hand.

    Do you know anyone that isn’t a techno geek like us that knows what Symbian is? Me either. But I bet everyone you ask knows what Android is. There’s where Nokia needs to improve their image. Not by adding an expensive phone.

  • http://twitter.com/gsmitheidw G. Smith

    I think this is a great idea. I also (as an avid car enthusiast) think this is a model that has worked very well for the car industry – the analogy is good. Many manufacturers create a “halo” product that serves as an object of desire. In some ways these may start as concept designs at trade shows that migrate from prototype to production driven by consumer demand. Products that showcase the capabilities of a company somewhat bereft from the constraints of cost and value.

    In cars this has been seen in examples such as the McLaren F1 in the 90s. Or the Bugatti Veyron as a halo product for the Volkswagen empire.

    From a different industries altogether there are equivalents. Such as the Clear Audio “Statement” Hi-Fi turntable. A factor of approx 81 times the price of it's basic model.

  • Juan

    What do you want a 1000$ Nokia phone Rita? Just visit my country and you will found a 1680$ Nokia phone:

    http://nokia.empiretech.com.ar/consultarArticul…

    Just use Google to convert:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls…

    Is very funny that everybody complain how Apple gadgets are over priced, but here Nokia is not ashamed to still raping people with their “flagship”, for this money here I can buy:

    * 4 iPhone 3GS
    * 1 Mac Book Pro
    * 1 HP Envy
    * 3 Canon Digital Rebel XSi 12.2 MP (for the “flagship” 12 mp camera)
    * 5 Motorola Milestone
    * 3 Nexus One

    Or just buy an iPhone 4 + the Canon Rebel and save 600$.

    So Nokia, just going on stealing people, but there are far better choices than you in every single front, so after 5 years using symbian and being raped by Nokia I am just sitting waiting for the new iPhone.

  • http://twitter.com/Rosseirc Rosario

    You can't compare a car and a tech device. A car with time, since is a flagship gains value. A tach gadget, in particular a phone, doesn't gain any value, it looses valu very quicly.
    Make a dolce and gabbana version of the flagship and price it 10 times more if you are looking for something exclusive. Or do like nokia did with the n95 8gb. thake the flagship and spicy it up a little to make it more exclusive, and make it more expensive.

  • http://twitter.com/llamaluvr Keith Kurak

    Being in the US, I like their strategy of building a device competitive with other flagships for the lowest price. Until they get broader carrier support, they need to convince potential customers that maaaaaaybe paying $400 for an unlocked phone ain't such a bad idea after all. At $460 or whatever, the N8 starts to look like a pretty good deal combined with T-Mobile's Even More Plus plan, which saves the customer $240/ 2 years compared to a subsidized plan. I look at the N8 and think, “how did Nokia cram all that into a phone AND undercut the Nexus One by $70?”. They could have easily announced that the N8 would cost $600 and nobody would have questioned it, given the spec sheet.

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  • http://twitter.com/darth_ognath Darth Ognath

    Actually, your idea isn't based on any sane logic. You're completely missing the point…

    Yes, I would like Nokia to make a handset with all the cutting edge tech crammed in, but it should be priced competitively. It's already losing ground in the smartphone arena from exactly the opposite reason – not because it's too cheap, but because in the last year or two all the other relevant manufacturers (apart, maybe, SE) made better, and more competitively priced devices. And lo and behold, a 400$ HTC Android device is much more of a status symbol than $500-600 N97…
    The last model which packed right set of features combined with great design, and at the right price, was e71. And it was a helluva status symbol, I remember how people looked at me when I bought it.
    And if it was priced at a much higher price which you suggest, noone would buy it, despite the “status” factor – everyone would buy blackberries because, you know, they are also a status symbol and would be way cheaper.

    For most people who buy expensive/hi tech smartphones, their phone is both a tool and a status symbol, but the bang-for-the-buck still plays the important role in their decision. So that's where your argument is totally flawed.

    If you really want to make a “status” phone, just take the top-of-the line phone and make a designers version of it, then sell it at premium prices.

    What Nokia should do (at least in the smartphone segment) is to phase out Symbian, embrace Android/Maemo/Meego, and stick to it. Ovi store sucks compared to any other appstore, and numerous popular apps aren't even available via it, so they should improve Ovi store to at least be competitive with others' markets. Then make a phone which isn't crippled (and Nokia always finds the way to cripple its flagship phones in some way, by removing some functionality which is present even in the cheapest dumbphones), and with a good marketing and competitive pricing, it could regain their loss in smartphone market (which is going to become even more accented, now when you have fully functional HTC Android phones for less than $200 sans contract).

    $1000 phone, even if top of the line, would be a major flop. What killed the N97 wasn't its low price, but the fact that there are other, better or similar, phones at the same or lower price.

    I have to say that they're lucky that you aren't their brand manager, 'cause your decisions would bury them (not that their current brand manager is doing it right, either…). They're even slowly losing foothold in east-european markets, where they traditionally ruled. And yes, they're losing it to Android phones. (I'm talking about smartphones, but it can expand to higher class dumbphones – aforementioned HTC tattoo costs less than 200, and there are still many s40 devices which cost around the same).

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  • Hello

    nooooooooooooo

    why sould i pay more for my next nokia only because nokia haves an bad marketing strategy?

    and yeah i didnt read the howl text now…

  • http://www.adityasphones.wordpress.com adityasinghvi

    This reminds me of the N-Gage post a couple of years ago.
    What Nokia needs is not an expensively priced phone. It actually needs a phone that is complete and bug free with a hardware that doesn't feel last generation. People are ready to pay extra, and for those people a specialized version is perfect, satisfies their ego and gives them something to make them feel special.

    Nokia once stood for quality and form over functionality, that slot has evolved and undergone a lot of change. That what Nokia needs to do, understand what has changed and then adapt.

    Let's face it iPhone is here and will stay, work around this new element instead of against makes for better sense.

    I reiterate, Nokia needs good stable devices placed at the right price. It needs to rebuild the brand that has taken a beating. It needs to be trusted, not made to sell expensive devices, not right now atleast.

  • Kyle

    ill have to completely disagree with that. Look at it from this point of view….. Nokias are reasonably priced, and most other manufacturers are just applying ridiculous markups.

    On a sidenote, i think some are actually overpriced. I paid 600aud for my e71 quite a while ago and it is an absolute joke. The bluetooth implementation is shocking, even with updates(stopped using it only a few weeks ago) network connectivity drops in and out, it lags and on most occasions locks up, stock email client is shocking etc.(this was all off a fresh generic flash). So 600aud for this kind of support was absolutely appalling, google around for the issues involving the left softkey locking the menu up and having to be force closed or reboot the phone.

    Only reasons i've bought another nokia are the price point and that no other mobile operating system(symbian) seems to handle battery anywhere near as efficiently as S60(UIQ3 was great too but long gone). I recently picked up a nokia 5230 for $150aud, runs fairly well, does everything i need and was dirt cheap. crap camera and no keyboard but for 150 whos complaining .

    almost forgot to mention, OVI Store, whilst having great content has been implemented in a shocking manner. Runs like crap on both phones. Wouldn't settle for that without it being cheap cheap.

  • Mato56

    Should Nokia Release A 1000$ Phone? No, they shoud make a decent phone ;) 512 RAM, 1GHz processor, eye-candy UI….

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LJMDPO4URXA4NSRAMXWQDBRXG4 Daniella

    Well I guess Nokia does not need to release that pricey kind of phones. It will be just a waste of money for the consumers, and it would drag customers to lust for luxuries that focusing on their necessities.

  • Keith

    They just won't be able to make a good $100 smartphone (that's just over half the retail price of a Nokia 5230). And if it's not good it could really hurt their brand.

    It's one thing to offer a cheap phone. It's quite another to offer a cheap smartphone.

    I don't know about Lebanon, but here in North America, because of the proliferation of iPhones and Blackberries and Android, people expect all smartphones to have certain hardware these days: WiFi (most important…to say on data), GPS and accelerometer. And a decent OS. Would Nokia sell a phone like that for $100? I doubt it.

    If they want to take a hit on their profitability, they should actually do it on the higher end. Want to stop Android from killing their smartphone business? Build the best hardware and sell it for a minimal profit. That might sound ridiculous. But that's about the only thing that'll save Symbian and Nokia from being relegated to the minor leagues in the smartphone business.

  • Keith

    So not $100, but a solid complete smartphone for $200. Wind Mobile carries the Nokia 5230 in Canada. That's a terrible piece of hardware. No wifi? WTF? They should start with that.

    As for $100 phones. Those should be top of the line dumbphones. Think SE Xperia Pureness.

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