Symbian-Guru.com Is Over

As of today, I will no longer be updating Symbian-Guru.com, and will be purchasing an Android-powered smartphone – my new Nexus One should arrive tomorrow. I’ve been a Nokia fanboy since 1999, and a Symbian fanboy since I got my Nokia 6620 in summer of 2004. Since then, I’ve personally owned 10+ different Symbian-powered smartphones, and have reviewed nearly every Symbian-powered smartphone that’s been released in the past 3 years or so. I’ve tried to use all of Nokia’s various products and services to the best of my ability, and I just can’t do it anymore.

I can’t continue to support a manufacturer who puts out such craptastic ‘flagships’ as the N97, and who expects me to use services that even most of Nokia’s own employees don’t use. I also can’t continue to support a mobile operating system platform that continually buries itself into oblivion by focusing on ‘openness’ while keeping a blind eye towards the obvious improvements that other open platforms have had for several iterations.

When I received my HTC Eris, I was 100% convinced that using Android would ruin Symbian for me. Ironically, the Eris showed me the ugly side of Android – the side that reveals itself on crappy processors paired with piss-poor amounts of RAM. In fact, it was the Nokia N97 – the company’s last real “flagship” Symbian device – that has completely and utterly killed Symbian for me. The Nokia N97, when announced, was supposed to be the epitome of Nokia’s high-end smartphone offerings. Nokia is the largest cellphone manufacturer in the world, with the largest worldwide marketshare on the planet. The Nseries was originally conceived to be the company’s top-notch smartphones – the best of the best, if you will. The N9x devices have always been the best of the Nseries, as well – the cream of the crop of the best of the best, and yet the N97 is quite possibly one of the most embarrassing devices ever to come out of the Finnish monster.

You may be saying, ‘well, sure, but the N8 is set to come out any month now, shouldn’t you give it a fighting chance?’ Yes, of course I *should*, but I won’t. When the Nokia N8 was first announced, I was dead convinced I would purchase one out of my own pocket. I started putting money aside, ready to even pre-order the N8 as soon as I could. However, the more I use the Nokia N97 as my primary device, the less I’ve been convinced that the N8 is going to be better. Time and time again, Nokia’s high-end smartphones have arrived with pathetic processors, stingy amounts of RAM, and small batteries – why should I put up another $500 of my own money ‘just to see’?

Nokia-N8-memory-full(image credit: The Nokia Blog)

If you recall, when the Nokia N97 was announced, we all drooled over it endlessly. We marveled at its features, its monstrous internal storage, sliding hinge assembly, 1500mAh battery, and more. We waited a disturbing 6 months for it to actually be available…only to actually get it. The launch firmware on the Nokia N97 was so bad, I sincerely hope that whoever gave it the A-OK to be released has been fired from Nokia. It took them another 6 months just to release a firmware that wasn’t rubbish, and now, the ‘flagship’ languishes behind other devices, frustrating owners like myself more and more each day.

Despite getting one that was manufactured much later than the initial batch, my Nokia N97 had the famed camera slider issue, where the ‘protective’ lens cover was actually damaging the lens it was designed to protect, flooding photos with the dual-LED flash and making them useless. The GPS, once strong, now loses signal every 10-15 seconds, making the free voice-guided turn-by-turn navigation offered by Ovi Maps a complete waste (not to mention the POI database in my area is abysmal). Don’t bother filling that 32GB of internal storage with music – it’ll bog the phone down so much you won’t be able to use it for a thing.

The pissant processor in the N97 is another aspect that completely kills the device. The phone is hardly able to keep up with the operating system’s multitasking capabilities, frequently running out of RAM and slowing to a crawl. Worse, the C: storage – where you install 3rd party applications and where the majority of Nokia’s own products install themselves – is so small it’s ridiculous. After installing Nokia Messaging for Email (which should have been pre-installed in such a flagship device), Ovi Maps’ latest update, and Ovi Contacts, I’m left with less than 10MB free. To add insult to injury, this 10MB tends to disappear on its own – I’m down to 2MB after being at 10MB a week or two ago. The only way to recover it is to hard-reset the phone, which I’ve done several times, and then painstakingly re-installing all your stuff. It still takes me close to an hour, and I would consider myself a pro.

After this experience with the Nokia N97, there’s simply no way I trust them to not screw up with the N8 – not enough for me to fork over $500 of my own money, at least. Sure, the N8 looks good on paper and in the first reviews – but then again, so did the N97, as I recall.

Symbian Foundation is also a factor in my decision to dump it all and go Android. Like Android, Symbian Foundation prides itself on being open and free – loudly and oftentimes obnoxiously boasting about how its source code is free for all – despite no one really caring about this, at least in my circle. The platform still languishes behind Android in simple features – being able to replace various pieces of the OS at the users’ whim, native threaded SMS/MMS, integrated IM, and a usable app marketplace, among others.

What’s worse is that developers of popular online services are completely ignoring Symbian, putting it further and further behind the other platforms. To date, there is still not an official client for Dropbox, Pandora, Last.FM (don’t get me wrong, Mobbler is one of the reasons I’ve stuck with Symbian, but it’s still not official), Foursquare, Twitter, and a host of others. Yes, there are solutions to this on Symbian, but nearly every other platform has an *official* client from these popular services – showing that the developers see those platforms as something their users would actually be using.

To be truthful, I’m also exhausted with trying to be a Nokia/Symbian fan in the U.S. There is absolutely zero marketing effort from either company in this market, and it’s not for lack of opportunities. For the past 2 years, the season finale of American Idol has been held at Nokia Live theatre in Los Angeles, California. I watched both finales, and did not *once* see a Nokia logo anywhere on the screen through the shows. In fact, the only mention of Nokia, at all, was when they said the name of the venue. No banners hanging anywhere, no ad space during commercials for the latest Nokia device from the U.S. carriers, nothing. It’s pathetic. While European carriers stumble over themselves to carry the latest Nokia devices, American carriers tend to pick up the lame-duck and low-end versions of Nokia’s phones. This is improving, but at a snail’s pace. Both Symbian and Nokia are dying brands in the U.S., if not already dead, and I’m sick and tired of banging the gong alone.

Most of my friends and family now carry Android-powered devices. My dad traded in his Nokia 6126 for a Motorola Backflip, and my mom, who previously used my N95-3 and 5800 XpressMusic, did as well. My little brother just picked up an HTC Hero, and my wife, who has carried the N81 8GB, N96, and E71, is now eyeing the HTC EVO 4G. As mentioned earlier, I’ve already sold off my N97 and ordered a Nexus One from Google.

The Nexus One has the fastest mobile processor available today, a whopping 512MB of RAM, and is consistently being updated to the latest version of the Android operating system. Its hardware also conforms to the requirements put in place for Android v3.0, surprisingly.

And so, after 3 years and 8 months, Symbian-Guru.com is officially done. Thanks to Nokia’s consistently piss-poor hardware choices and Symbian’s lack of ability to even remotely compete in terms of features, abilities, and overall experience, I’ve lost my passion for both.  As mentioned, the site will remain, but it will not be updated any longer. To all of you whom I’ve met – both online and offline – it’s been easily the best 3 years and 8 months of my life. I’ll still be online in the usual places, and will still be actively blogging about mobile/tech/Internet at my personal site, http://www.RickyCadden.com. Of course I’ll still keep my eye on Nokia. If they can put out 2 flagship devices in a row that don’t completely suck, I may even give them another chance. I won’t hold my breath.

To Nokia, you guys are losing. Hard. Wake the hell up. Doing the same thing repeatedly while expecting different results is the definition of insanity.  I’ve been a huge Nokia fan since my 2nd cellphone, and I just can’t do it any longer. You guys aren’t competing like you once were, and everyone but you seems to see that. You used to build the world’s best smartphones, the world’s best cameras, the world’s best GPS units – you’ve lost pretty much all of that, and with nothing to show for it. You unveiled your Ovi vision over 2 years ago – I was there. Today, it’s still a complete mess. I have to log in every single time I visit the site – regardless of how many times I check the ‘remember me’ box. I spent 6 months (and about 3 hours at Nokia World 2009) trying to find someone to help me with Ovi Contacts on the web – no one knew who to point me to. You spent millions of dollars purchasing your Ovi pieces – Ovi Files, Ovi Share, and a host of other little companies – are you proud of what you ‘built’ with them? Most of your own employees (that I’ve talked to) don’t even use them, so why should I?

To Symbian, if you’d stop shouting about being open, you’d see that you’re losing too. Consumers are leaving and developers are staying away. Frankly, I think Symbian is better off than Nokia at this point. I’ll give you a hint: the first step is to consolidate. Your top three manufacturer partners (Nokia, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson) all have their own app stores – that’s three times the work for your developers to get their apps to consumers. Second, you guys need to find someone else to build your platform’s flagship devices – Nokia is actively and consistently blowing it for you. Nokia’s lost a few folks to HTC – see if you can get them to build you a platform flagship. The best operating system in the world can still be crippled by crappy hardware.

This was not an easy decision to make. To be honest, I’ve wanted to write this post for the past several months – I’ve had numerous conversations with Dotsisx about this, and we both kept saying ‘let’s give them some time, surely Nokia/Symbian is going to improve.’ Guess what – they didn’t, and it’s just….sad. Like watching your favorite sports team lose game after game after game. Eventually, even the most die-hard sports fans have to find a new team.

I do want to say, however, that Nokia is not without the talent to do some awesome things – nearly every single Nokian that I’ve met personally – save for a few – are the friendliest, nicest folks; eager to listen to (and better understand) feedback on any product at any time. Some of this feedback is immediately reinvested in future products, which is awesome. As I’ve attended Nokia World three times, every time has been awesome and reassuring to see the Nokians who are actually doing things and who get just as frustrated as I have with various things. Unfortunately, this awesome talent seems to be wasted somehow. I sincerely hope that the upper brass at Nokia starts listening to the folks who are putting in extra time and effort – these folks know what’s going on, and like I did originally, simply want to see Nokia succeed.

Symbian Guru and Dotsisx

When I told Dotsisx that I had finally made the decision and started writing the post, she confessed that she was at the same point that I was, and put together her part. We’ll both be leaving the site, but she has her own reasons:

Well, what can I say after this articulate tirade from Ricky? How much can I add when The Symbian Guru himself gives up on Symbian, just like when a few days ago, a company called SymbianGuru (without the dash) started releasing software for Android. It should be a sign, nah, it should be a freaking glowing DANGER light if someone cares to notice.

Although my experience has been different from Ricky’s in some areas (I have a Nokia N97 Mini and don’t suffer the internal memory issues he has, I also live in Lebanon where Nokia is huge and does a lot of campaigns and marketing), Ricky sums up a lot of my frustrations with Nokia and Symbian right now. Much like him, I have been a fan and a power user from the moment I bought my Nokia 3250 XpressMusic 4 years ago. Since then, I’ve owned and trialed more Symbian/Nokia devices than I care to remember, but for posterity’s sake here’s the list: C5, E52, E55, E61i, E66, E71, E72, E75, E90, N81 8GB, N82, N85, N86 8MP, N93i, N95, N95 8GB, N96, N97, N97 Mini, X6, 5530 XM, 5730 XM, 5800 XM, 6210 Navigator, 6700 Slide, 6710 Navigator, 6720 Classic, and Sony Ericsson Satio. Woosh! I’ve evangelized Symbian and smartphones when people didn’t know what those weird words meant, I’ve shown friends around me how to use every single feature in their phone and I’ve convinced many colleagues in the Pharmacy and Medical field that they don’t need a PDA or a Windows Mobile to access relevant medical information, they can do it right from their Nokia with several applications especially MobiReader and its collection of medical eBooks.

Unfortunately, times have changed. The E71 is and will always be the absolute best phone I ever used and one that symbolizes the epitome of mobile technology for me. Since its release though, it has been a steady decline, and although I currently own and use a Nokia N97 Mini daily, I’m annoyed by many aspects of it, not the least of which is how Nokia’s own applications lag painfully on this rehash of a flagship that was supposed to fix some of the original N97′s shortcomings. Take Nokia Messaging for Email, IM or Social Networks. The UI is ugly, the features have been evolving at a snail’s pace, and I’m pretty convinced the team tests those apps on different hardware with 1GHz processors because no one in their right mind would release apps like that, not beta, not alpha, not even pre-alpha. I swear I could get a VISA, buy an airplane ticket, travel to Texas and talk to Ricky in person before Nokia Messaging for IM loads and opens a conversation with him on my N97 Mini. Another pet peeve I have is with the nonavailability of official Dropbox, IMDB, Facebook, Paypal, Ebay, Read It Later, … applications on Symbian. But honestly, how can you blame outside developers when Nokia themselves can’t seem to pull through a decent application?

This is nothing though compared to the absolute lack of any medical application on Symbian^1. There’s none. None whatsoever. Not decent, not half bad, not totally bad. NONE. Absolutely Zero. Zilch. Niente. How silly is that, when the Apple App Store has a complete category dedicated to Medical software?! On my E71, I used to use Skyscape apps as well as MobiReader for my 200$ bought medical ebooks. Now I no longer have those: Skyscape never ported their apps from S60 3rd to Symbian^1, and MobiReader went into oblivion. The one reason I fell in love with Symbian/Nokia in the first place is now the reason I hate it passionately. Ironic, isn’t it? Some pundits will argue that there’s a bookmark for that. I’m sorry, when I need my info instantly and my mobile connection is slow and costs a ton, there’s no bookmark for that, “there’s an app for that”. As it goes, I have been carrying an iPod Touch daily and am bedazzled by the amount of amazing quality and quantity of freeware medical software for it, let alone paid applications. The fact that huge companies like Epocrates, Lexi-Comp, Medscape, Vidal chose to ignore the Symbian platform speaks a ton about how bad things are for the ecosystem.

What good does it do me, as a user, if you have 40 or 50 or 60 % marketshare when you fail to gain any developer traction? There’s Qt, widgets, Python, an SDK, Java, d’oh. But where are the medical applications? Where are thespecialty apps that I once wrote about on S60 3rd but were never ported to Symbian^1? Where are the games that make me pop my eyes in awe? The N8 will get Angry Birds. Big whoop. It took me all of 2 days to finish all levels of Angry Birds on my iPod Touch and you know what? When I was done, I moved on to the next game. Could I say the same about the N8?

When I think back to 3 or 4 years ago, when the iPhone and Android were first launched, I remember how they were a joke for many Symbian users. But look at them now! Look how much has evolved and grown in those two, software and feature-wise as well as ecosystem-wise. Four years ago, I had a long list of arguments to use when friends told me they’re getting an iPhone. But year after year, that list grew smaller. Now I just stand there and nod, knowing that there’s nothing I can argue with. The mobile space has seen a mind-blowing acceleration, hugely thanks to the iPhone, and meanwhile, Symbian and Nokia have stayed the same. I have now come to expect that whatever feature is still missing from Android/iOS will probably be added soon in a future firmware update. I wish I could have the same faith and certainty about Symbian.

I’m pretty sure these words will surprise if not astonish many of you who know how much of a Symbian faithful I am. Right now, I honestly don’t know where I stand exactly in regards to Symbian. The fact that I’m doubting my position is reason enough for me to stop writing here. I can’t evangelize a platform when I’m no longer 100% convinced myself: that would be hypocrisy and I’m not a hypocrite. (This is *precisely* my position, too – Ricky)

As I repeated many times, I love my iPod Touch but I’ll probably never buy an iPhone. There’s just so many hoops I have to go through to make it work like I want it to, thanks to Apple’s closed walled garden approach, and that’s not something I’m willing to go through with my main phone. I don’t like the touchscreen-only form factor and I’m not wow’ed by the eye candy of the OS either, but I can definitely see the appeal of iOS thanks to that ever-growing App Store. So for now, I am locked to Symbian for a couple more years mainly thanks to the lack of any decent mobile data service in Lebanon and Symbian giving me full control over data consumption, but my heart is no longer in it. I am currently actively seeking and drooling over any Android device, and I know that despite the data consumption issue, if I get an Android with a slide-out qwerty, it’ll be the end of Symbian and Nokia for me.

On a personal level, now, it’s time to move on. Those who have followed me on Twitter know that I have been actively seeking a location to open my own pharmacy. I finally found it. I’m moving from being an employee to becoming my own boss with my own little business. I’ve also gone back to writing. I used to be an amateur English/French writer/poet before I started blogging and I miss it a lot. I’ve recently taken back my (virtual) pen and will see if I decide to start self-publishing some of my work. I guess God closes a door and opens a window. Those are two amazingly big windows!

But this isn’t a farewell. You know me, you know I’ll always be passionate about mobile and tech. It’s not as much as I’m quitting Symbian, it’s more like I’m quitting being a Symbian advocate, and exclusively a Symbian fan. If you need your Dotsisx fix, I’ll still be around on Twitter as @khouryrt, on FoneArena where I’ve been contributing galleries, reviews and opinions for the past year and a half and where I’ll continue writing whatever floats my boat, be it Symbian, iOS or Android, on NokiaLB which tackles Nokia news (not just Symbian, ie let’s cross our fingers for Meego) with a slight twist on Lebanon and the MiddleEast, as well as my personal DotsisxBlog. I hope to see you there.

I just went back and re-read the title of this post “Symbian-Guru Is Over”. It saddens me that we have come to this, but Ricky and I have been discussing it for a long time, yet we never got past the “we should close it” talking stage, always digging in and finding a reason to keep the passion flowing. It’s staggering that we now finally decided to sit down and write our final post. It had to be done and although it was hard at first, I’ve now come to terms with the decision. I was a Symbian-Guru reader and fan long before I became a writer here, 2 and a half years ago. I love the community, I love how strongly opinionated you, our readers, are, how many times you’ve set my facts straight or argued with my point of view. I love the people I got to meet through Symbian-Guru, be it passionate Symbian fans, other bloggers, or Nokia employees, I cherish the moments and opportunities that have risen since I joined the site and the tons of things I learned that can’t be put on paper and that are related to Symbian but that stretch well beyond Symbian. It’s time to close this chapter and hand the torch to all the new and passionate bloggers out there who still love Symbian and Nokia dearly.

We both also want to thank the various contributors to the site over the years – Wampyre, who has stuck with us the longest, but also PseudoFinn, Ollywompus, SchawlaF, and yes, even Gorilla. We couldn’t have done it without ya’ll.

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The Guru

The Guru, aka Ricky Cadden, started Symbian-Guru.com in November 2006, out of his excitement for the S60 3rd Edition version of Symella. The Guru has used Symbian devices since the Nokia 6620, and is known for his perspective as a power user. You can follow The Guru on Twitter at @Rcadden

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  • Rob

    I made the same transition from Nokia myself. I have enjoyed your news and reviews – I hope you’ll continue with Android and N1.

  • Ray H

    Ricky, sad day for all, we’ll miss you bud, please stay in touch ;-)

    RayH

  • Nico

    Jou always talked about Android as an alternative to Symbian but what about Maemo / MeGoo in the future? The plattform looks good and even more open than Andoid. Hardware (Nokia N900) also look pretty with touch and QWERTY. Apps seems to be the problem…

  • http://twitter.com/kai_en Kai En

    I do agree that day by day Symbian’s lead in terms of flexibility and functionality decreases. Every time Android released, a new cookie, or a new froyo or a new gingerbread. Having said that, I did say that Symbian will finally come to an end as a high end mobile solution a year ago. The announcement of N series will no longer Symbian after N8 didn’t come as a surprise to me at all. However, Symbian will probably continue to live on as power mid range phone OS due to its small hardware requirement, which is not such a bad thing. It gives everyone a chance to own something that is functional without making a hole into the wallet.

    However, I do agree that Nokia has to renergize their whole Handset division. Treating customers as their first hand alpha, beta tester is not the way to do business. Heck, I own a N97 mini now and yet I still have not been able to update to the latest firmware due to the fact that it is not released in my country and its really in dire need of a new firmware.

  • http://blog.gilly.ws Gilly

    “if I get an Android with a slide-out qwerty, it’ll be the end of Symbian” <– Motorola Milestone :)

  • Viipottaja2

    Wow. Sad to see you go. Still, I do think your timing is bad. :)

  • http://fonearena.com Varun

    Sad to see the decision .. but you guys should continue to write about android . iphone .. generic mobile stuff probably on mobileguru :)

  • http://nokn97.blogspot.com/ Dani

    too bad… I also have a blog start for N97, but I’m in perspectiv to purchase HTC desire wich I think will drive me to start a new blog and forget about N97…

  • ajdrew

    Mr. Symbian Guru,

    I wanted to thank you for your blog. I too have been a quiet Nokia owner for many year. I have enjoyed the phones quite a bit, but understand where you are coming from. I too just switched to Android with the HTC Evo.

    Thanks for all you great reviews, and great, informative posts! Good luck in the Android world.
    -Quiet-Nokia-Guy-Who-Always-Read-But-Never-Commented-Until-Now

  • http://www.nokiausers.net/forum/lounge/36397-another-one-bites-dust.html#post277486 Another one bites the dust!

    [...] course you are Nokia who presumably will continue to spiral down their path of self destruction! See here I wonder who will be next? Nice summary but I don't think Ricky will be receiving any more [...]

  • NeNoRmAL

    Nokia is rising again, bad time to give up on them I guess. But it’s your choice to make. =]

  • Alberto

    Everything you say is sad but TRUE. This week I´ve found myself reviewing specs and costs to trade my N97 NAM and get the new iPhone 4. As you, I´ve been a Nokia fan for more than 5 years, and remember with nostalgy the times when my friends asked me what cell to buy. If I had a N-Series, it was supposed I was a serious tech buyer. Not anymore. They now only hear me complaining about all the known issues with this crappy Nokia flagship. Nokia: You´ve lost me too. As Ricky, I don’t even trust the forthcoming N8 would be any better and I won’t pay to verify it. Best luck Ricky !!!

  • Guest

    logical step – I was a Nokia user for 10 years, then moved to iPhone for a few months, and now in love with my HTC Legend (Android)

  • http://thesymbianblog.com Vaibhav Sharma

    Wow. That was a surprise and needless to say an unpleasant one. But I can definitely see where you’re coming from. I have found myself moving to Maemo/MeeGo as well, but am not quite done with Symbian as yet.

    Good luck, you shall be missed!

  • Johann

    Hi Ricky it is sad to see you go I have been following you since 2007 and it was bloggers like you who made sure I stayed the hell away from the N97 instead I got a lot cheaper 5800 last year which has been barely working for me, the camera was useless pics remind me of 1mpx camera quality, as well as many of the issues you mention for me the mail for exchange client has not changed since my n95 days (the n95 was the reason I decided on another nokia) poor inbox in nokia messaging did not work well on my phone at all I uninstall-ed after 4 hours of use.

    So I decided to go with the iphone 4 as people who have similar needs as I seem to be happy with the platform, I considered Android and liked many of their devices but here in europe my only options were the xperia X10, HTC legend, HTC Desire. The xperia has Android crippled by SE and long update cycle from 1.6 to newer versions, HTC while nice I wanted better screens.

    If Nokia gets its act together I might consider their future products based on meego but I will never buy another Nokia upon release I will wait 3-6 months to get decent user input prior to buying another Nokia they have proven over and over again that their devices upon release are not ready.

    One question what twitter account will you be posting mobile info now.

    Good luck Ricky

    Johann

  • http://www.nokiausers.net/forum/lounge/36397-another-one-bites-dust.html#post277488 Another one bites the dust!

    [...] course you are Nokia who presumably will continue to spiral down their path of self destruction! Nice summary but I don't think Ricky will be receiving any more freebies from Nokia! I wonder who will be next to see [...]

  • Alexandr3

    It’s sad to see how Nokia loses its fans… but it’s the reality only. The N97 was my last Nokia too. After months eagerly waiting for it, I bought in the first day and returned it one week later. Bought an iPhone 3G, and after it the 3GS and now Im waiting for the 4. Nokia frozen in 2008. And it’s stucking there…

    For you, I wish you the best of lucks. Any chance of us getting an Android-Guru sooner rather than later? :)

  • Manish goswami

    well, i hope they will come back & come back fr good…..
    i hv been a fan of nokia… & i hope they will not let us down so easily… we can see their efforts they are putting to regain their market share….
    Nokia , in collaboration with Intel, is coming with new Os named ‘Meego’…
    i have seen 1 or 2 videos of it on net, & it seems very promising…. and with intel inside it will definitely boast better processor, ram & hardware….
    & they are also working continuously on symbian…
    very soon they are comin with symbian^3 & they have already announced that in next year they will release symbian ^4….
    Nokia n8 is luking gud, they surely has ridden off all the problms that were there in nokia n97 in this device…. & The UI is also lukin improved…. which will surely be improving & developing in later devices as well…
    I feel they are working with gud pace to make their devices better & better…
    i Hope very soon You both will have to switch back to this blog writing….!!!
    God bless you both………….!!!

  • http://www.mobileroyale.co.cc/the-mass-exodus-of-symbian-bloggers/ Mobile Royale » The Mass Exodus of Symbian Bloggers..

    [...] Symbian as you know it. Today marks the end of one of world's most prominent Symbian blogs – Symbian Guru . Need I say more ? The past few months have seen a mass exodus of bloggers and more importantly [...]

  • Symguru

    Didn’t the N97 prototype look great? Yes it did! So forget about N8, it will fail again.

  • Lemim0uth

    Finally, some people start to open their eyes ! I switched from my N97 to Android about 8 months ago (begining with the Hero, then the Nexus since january), and since then every time I have an occasion to hold a N97 or N97 Mini from friends I feel like “oh my god…. how could I use Nokia/Symbian for so long !”

  • Eric

    I too have left Nokia after 4 years and endless devices. It’s a sad thing to see happen. Hopefully, one day I’ll be back, but as of now, it’s on to a device that is a whole lot more fun to use, and applications that actually are useful.

  • Guest

    Hey, good luck man!

  • Spielnicht

    Nokia for me died 5 years ago when my N80 was “the” best phone on the market at the time, what took you so long? I left for the iPhone (2G& 3GS) until greatness came out…the Nexus One. I was waiting for a non-themed Android (no Sense UI or MotoBlur junk). Haven’t looked back sense.

    Welcome to the future, welcome to Android!

  • Ttt

    Will you start Android Guru?

  • Aeonys

    You guys are doing the right thing! Come and join the Android Armada. We are growing stronger everyday! Our phones are getting better everyday, We will solve the battery life problems along with any UI deffect within 12 months. We are Open but most of all we rock!
    I, too was a Nokia user, I sticked with Nokia until 2010. Nexus-one came out and I made the jump! Android is just… better. Android does and our smartphone army will grow bigger.
    The only reason I would switch back to a Nokia phone now would be if Nokia made an Android phone.
    All the best to you guys. Nokia management is blowing it, let them suffer alone and as we say: Go Android! FTW!

  • anotherconvert

    I’ve been a fan of Nokia for a while – their support of open standards such as Syncml and some of the best phones that I’ve used (the E71 was brilliant) are why. However, I also got a Nexus one 3 months ago – it’s just in a different league. I do hope Nokia comes back with a quality offering in Meego, but until then, it’s Android for me.

    p.s. I’m also dying to get my hands on an Android tablet – got an ipad for dev and while it’s also a very good device, it’s so limited without flash!

  • Jonas

    I could not agree more, after being fooled into buying a N85 which has a gorgeous OLED but frequently crashed and lost the keyplate during normal use, I gave up my Nokia habit that had been lasting since my 6600. I still own and use 2 E61 strictly for phoning and messaging, since they are very robust and sturdy, don´t chrash and are overall very good phones with a ton of business-features. Now I own a HTC Desire (aka Google Nexus One), it´s the best smartphone I ever had, ist plain fun, also w/ a gorgeous display and great responsiveness. BUT: It will not replace my Nokia in the shortterm, the contact-administration totally relies on Facebook or Outlook-Import, I like my contacts on a SIM.
    And the battery-drain is awful, it won´t last a business day under normal usage, due to the always-online nature of all the apps running in the background. I still believe that true convergence is a myth, smartphones can do amazing things and are in reality wearable PCs ( 1Ghz / 512 RAM ???) , but the voice quality of cheap simple phones surpasses them frequently (see Michael Arrington on his burner experience). Fun and Job = 2 Phones. Fun = Android, Job = Nokia legacy phone

  • moonsafariman

    Sad news to see this happening! I wish you both and others all the best and having jumped the Nokia ship myself, I think you’ve made the best decision.

    I also have relatives and friends all over the world and have been encouraging them to get Nokia devices but they’ve slowly began asking me to explore other platforms and devices! I don’t think I could sell anything to them again as 7 people I know who trusted me went and bought N97′s through my suggestion! None of them will ever utter the word ‘Nokia’ again!

    A good point I would pick up from Rita is I have never been an iphone fan but the ipad is what the apps should have been made for. It’s perfect for my financial background and my wife’s medical background!

    Nokia…yet another hint!

  • http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/01/rant-the-death-of-another-symbian-blog-and-the-loss-of-another-one-of-nokias-evangelists/ Rant: The death of another Symbian blog and the loss of another one of Nokia’s Evangelists | My Nokia Blog

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  • Merlin

    Shocking news, I thought it was a joke when I saw it in my rss feeds.
    Well, I for one am still believing in Nokia and Symbian, but I do agree with much of what you said.

    Good luck to both of you, and take care.

  • Eric

    I feel exactly the same. I still have my N900 (N97, N96, N95 etc..before that) but my next phone is very unlikely to be a Nokia. They’ve stopped innovating (in any great significance) and what little they do, they don’t implement & integrate properly. All of the above phones have been buggy, dated, slow (God, how many times have I had to reboot and/or rebuild them???) and desperately in need of the sort of applications and software that you can easily find elsewhere. I’ve been a Nokia fan for over 10 years and am very saddened by the lack of direction & initiative (again, of any actual significance). I have lost faith, and I know the N8 will bring with it the same problems. So I empathise with you guys. I really do.

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  • Geekgod88

    Hi, i’m a high school student and i share same sentiments.

    Though I’ve been using a 5800 XM for a year now, I’ve never stopped to take a second look and drool whenever someone on the street cradles an iPhone or iPod touch in his/her hands, and always cursed Apple for not making iPhone prices friendlier for the masses, especially those who have yet to secure a stable income. Same for the wide array of HTC Sense UI Android devices that HTC churns out every few months, where the prices are still pretty high for a student like me to get hold of first hand.

    Hope Nokia and Microsoft will do it right in the near future with MeeGo and Windows Phone 7 to give iPhone and Android a good fight, which will ultimately benefit consumers with a larger variety of platforms that will offer developers and users a friendly environment for high-class apps.

    Enjoyed your site alot.
    There are already a myriad of websites out there on Android, but symbian guru is one of the few better blogs for good reviews for Symbian and i’m quite sad for your departure, though i agree totally with your post.
    Pray that some genius in Nokia/Symbian/MeeGo/Microsoft would do something to make them rise again and push Apple back to where they were!
    All the best

  • Kurt

    Good post. Usually I just buy crappy or midrange basic phones, but last year I decided to treat myself to one of the best brand new smart phones out there, the Nokia N97. I thought it was cool at first, I was even convinced for a while it was an iPhone killer. Now all my mates have Android phones, even the diehard apple-heads. I remember when one of the firmware upgrades was supposed to solve the memory problem. Actually there seems to be two memory problems, one related to the RAM, and another related to the tiny C: drive. Both are even more of a problem than they ever were. I have to do the reset every few months, as the C: drive runs out. I don’t even bother reinstalling all the cool apps you can get because it chews up the C: drive.

    It is the worst thing I have even spent that much money on, I hate it.

    The only thing now is upgrade to an android now, or later?

  • Bruce

    We’ll miss the blog, but I completely understand your reasons. I’ve recently decided that I won’t continue buying high-end Nokia phones any more. The hardware is usually awesome, but the lack of software, service, marketing (especially in the USA), and developer support just doesn’t make it worth it.

    My wife’s getting an iPhone while I’m eyeing the Samsung Epic with its full keyboard. Either way, it’s no more Nokia disappointment for me.

    Rita, good luck on your new venture, and Ricky I hope you’ll continue to write about your Android experiences (your advice/insight is always awesome!). :)

  • http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/01/symbian-guru-is-dead-are-there-any-nokia-advocates-left/ Symbian-Guru is dead, are there any Nokia advocates left?

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  • oZ

    Hardcore users become apologists, then leave because they’ve been apologizing rather than moving them in the right direction. Enjoy Android.

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  • Angry

    EPIC FAIL! :(
    I think its a huge mistake to leave the Nokia/Symbian community now!
    Lots of people do not even have a clue about all the great things the future will bring!

    From a technical perspective there’s nothing out
    there that can compete with symbian – all this
    eye-candy shit will fail if people are fed up with
    this high end “phones” and real productivity
    is needed!

    Sorry but I am really angry now!
    However I wish you good luck! :((

  • Achu411

    Enjoyed reading your stuff guys! all the best for your future endeavors.

  • http://lloydjr.wordpress.com Lloyd

    We all feel your pain and share your frustration. I have a N900 right now and I am completely bored with it. I am a consumer, not a programmer, and I wants tools and applications that are consumer friendly and are released on a regular basis. I am very, very tempted to switch to the iPhone 4 or htc EVO. The only thing holding me back is the hope that the N8 will change everything. However, if we do not hear about it’s release date soon I too will be making the move.

  • Radical24

    Totally share your sentiments. As sad as it is to see another site, more hardcore users leave the scene it is not surprising to see it happen. more and more often this is the case, we jump ship from what once stood for brilliance in cell phone world. Good luck to you in the future pursuits.

  • Maverick12210

    It’s good to hear that you are migrating to the Android Platform, its the platform to look out for but as far Nexus One goes, it has a crappy battery life, i am sure you dont wanna carry multiple chargers with you everytime coz you never know when the Nexus One’s battery dies!

    But as far as Android goes…Its the Way to be, even i have migrated to Android recently & i love it

  • http://yudiwbs.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/masalah-di-nokia-messaging/ Masalah di Nokia Messaging | Blog Yudi Wibisono

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  • n97 user

    my n97 is my last nokia phone. just look at the new update for n97-a messly 1.1mb compared to iphone 3g who released 2008 just received some nice updates from iOS.. omg *face-palm*

  • 1234

    ricky and rita best of luck to both of u.. and rita hope everything works out beautifully with ur pharmacy.. i can tell u guys r good ppl by comin to the site

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  • http://wirelessstyle.info/2010/07/01/symbian-guru-goes-android-leaves-nokia-and-symbian/ Symbian Guru goes Android, leaves Nokia and Symbian | Wireless Style

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  • http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2010/07/01/symbian-what-can-be-said/ Symbian, What Can Be Said? | Venture Chronicles

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  • AdolfoSMoran

    Remember the garden of Eden? This time Jobs was the snake and that Apple was the temptation — please don’t take a bite.

  • Frak808

    I left Nokia too.. if they would release a phone running Android, I would consider a Nokia phone again.

    Having made the leap from a Nokia to the HTC G1; there is no chance in hell my next phone will be anything but a phone running Android, maybe it will be Motorola, Samsung, HTC, or even Sony, but the phone will run Android, and it will probably have a physical keyboard.

    It could be a Nokia if they had any Android offerings..

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  • Thirumalkumaran

    Just read the lines above
    “If you enjoyed this post, be sure to subscribe to Symbian-Guru.com’s RSS feed to stay up to date on future articles.”

    How embarrasing it is to read to subscribe for rss on the clsing post…

  • georges

    I left Nokia in 2008 after using a 6630 and not liking it!
    I switched to the iphone back then, and never regretted it, actually I was surprised that the iphone was better than I expected!
    Now is the time to get a new phone. It will be an iphone 4.
    But the next one will probably be an android one if Apple keeps being closed.
    Apple user since 1980 …

  • Njbianco

    The nexus one is the most reliable device ive ever used personally

  • Julz

    wah only reason i know of the existence of this website is that you got advertised on engadget
    the N97 was crap, well you got owned
    the N8 might be good tho, the N900 ain’t bad
    yeah, they made one shit phone and its the one you bought and made a website for? that’s kinda bad uh.

    maybe the reality is that your site is about symbian, not nokia or N series, and symbian is dead for high end. even the N8 is not called high end anymore, the latest high end phone of nokia is what, 9 month old? and it’s called N900.

  • http://www.binomialrevenue.com/2010/07/01/self-declared-longtime-nokia-and-symbian-fanboy-gives-up-goes-android/ Binomial Revenue » Blog Archive » Self-Declared Longtime Nokia And Symbian Fanboy Gives Up, Goes Android

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  • Njbianco

    I feel android is just as open as maemo and symbian i dont see how it isn’t less open any company can take android and put it on there device for free

  • dcman

    I went from a beloved Nokia E71 to the wondrous, incomplete and now abandoned N900 to the Nexus One and am not looking back. N1 has a few issues but the total package is so much better from my perspective.

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  • Pankomputerek

    Have you thought of selling the domain?
    I could be interested in buying…..

  • Heybige

    Ricky/Rita,

    I echo majority of the sentiments here. It’s truly amazing how much the landscape has changed over the past two years, but after having used Android exclusively for the past 90 days, I can certainly say there’s no going back to Symbian, at least in its current form, regardless of their stellar multimedia capabilities (which is what pulled me into the Nokia-verse in the first place).

    There are a couple of users who commented about sticking with Nokia and using the N900. I know Ricky has already shared his thoughts on this in the past, and I’m sure this was a consideration for him.

    But speaking for myself, as much as I enjoyed the Maemo interface (whose multitasking capabilities are second to none) and despite the potential for Meego, in order to stay relevant in the current market it makes little sense to stick with Nokia as a blogger in the US – there’s a much bigger and ever-expanding market in Android that it’s ultimately the better platform to ‘support’.

    Best of luck guys – I look forward to seeing what’s next.

  • Eickhel

    My God… my thoughts exactly… I just got my Nexus One.

  • aman

    you are right,i also use Nokia n900 from last 1 month i never ever seen a full memory message.but i have got one problem on my device,i cant play youtube video’s on my youtube client, i mean can see all list of videos but when ever i select to play them it doest show any thing nothing comes up on the screen,could you please help me on this?i search every where on internet but i couldn’t find it.!thanks.!

  • http://lovemynokia.com/ Siraj Soft

    OMG :O :( sad day for me :( such a legend taking off :(

  • tbrreal

    Me too was a huge Nokia fan since 95-3 (brazilian version). I had a 5800XM until last april with a contract, and before it expired i got a 3GS. No regrets whatsoever! Nokia no more…

  • http://twitter.com/thewinchesterau thewinchesterau

    Well, it's a shame it has come to this – but it speaks to the lack of Nokia's care towards its customer base, and the core values which gave it so much loyalty at the beginning that's now faded away.

  • http://cariadus.com Roger Harrison

    This post resonated so much with me. I’ve been using an E71, now waiting for my HTC Desire to be delivered. I loved the E71 but it’s time to move on. And my wife has traded her N85 for an HTC Wildfire.

    Mind you, my old E61 still makes a pretty good satnav device with TomTom and BlueNext GPS receiver :)
    (Hope TomTom release an Android version soon.)

  • Nimrod_levy

    Guru My friend, its true every single word you said, i was symbian fan too and now Im with nexus,
    symbian phones are dead to me, ovi store is crap, and the phones are just not functional i sold up my e71 (my 6th symbian device) and bought N1 and im not 100% happy, yet, 10000000000x times happy than my e71 n95 8gb, n73 etc…
    thanks for the services and dedication you brought in your blog n forum, hope to see you in the android scene, Thanks, Nimrod.

  • Aditya

    Android has issues as well. Still better if you find it yourself. Also my dad recently traded his 5800 for a milsetone and well lets just say Android has its fair share of issues that didn’t plague Nokia.

  • http://www.adonisdemon.com Abul

    Good luck to the both of you, but even more so to Nokia and Symbian. They'll need it MUCH MUCH more than both of you.

  • rvirga

    It’s sad to see Symbian-Guru go. I would have waited and tried the N8 (running a production release of Symbian^3) before dismissing Nokia completely. However I can understand how, after two really crappy flagships (N96 and N97), one could lose faith in Nokia. Good luck on all your future endeavors.

  • http://callmelocalhost.com localhost

    Too bad. Thanks for the many articles over the past years.

  • Anonimo

    Nothin better than taste something new to come back to Nokia….

  • http://twitter.com/skuzemewoods B Woods

    Sounds like a bunch of us. I'm on the n900 and i'm pretty sure this will be my last nokia… they've had more than enough chances. Best of luck in your future endeavors

  • http://zomgitscj.com/ Clinton Jeff

    I dont quite know what to say. You guys were an inspiration and will be missed. Ricky, I know we've barely interacted lately, but much respect man. Rita, i'll continue to torment you over the twitterverse about other things :P

    I cant say I'm not near to this stage as a “Nokia” fan. ZCJ might even go multibrand soon. I hope y'all will keep the site up as an archive atleast? Maybe if things eventually improve on the Symbian front down the line?

  • http://twitter.com/coolxll Linglong Xu

    Even with Nexus One, I think maybe some time u'll miss ur Nokia which are more reliable such as E71

  • http://twitter.com/smashpop Jason Goh

    good luck with android. thanks for all the articles all these years. u guys were an inspiration to me

  • http://www.facebook.com/lozil Lozil Noronha

    I feel Sorry for Nokia, It's losing it's hardcore users… Slowly, Nokia has been going downwards….. They were too careless, To maintain the real Nokia users..
    I summarized all the Nokia mistakes in recent and past in One post yesterday… http://digg.com/d31VSNP?t

  • g33k

    Reading your post I felt as if you took a peek in to my thoughts and wrote them out loud. I’ve been where you are now but for me its the N95 that did it for me. I’d been a Nokia user for as long as I can remember. I don’t remember ever owning anything other than a Nokia so when the N95-8GB (N95-4) was introduced I was quick to jump on it.
    The first few months were awesome with it, then it started to go downhill. Bugs were not being fixed, new firmwares were coming out with the same problems that the old ones had. Common sense features (such as auto-rotate) were not being included and had to be done with 3rd party apps.
    Then when they started advertising their other N-Series phones (N97 etc) it seemed like they had given up on N95, no firmware updates for a long time, then when they did release one it had a serious bug with the wifi, my phone practically went from being a smartphone to a dumbphone, I could hardly use it without it crashing numerous times during the day. To date I am not aware of an update that fixes that issue.
    It was due to this I decided to hold off getting a N97 despite actually saving up for it. Everyone I talked to said that N97 will be different from the N95 and it will change the mobile market, I was skeptical. Sure enough, when the N97 came out it was riddled with firmware problems just like the N95.

    Thats when for the first time in my life I shopped around for a non-nokia device.
    I got the Nexus One.

    Nokia need to wake up, or sure as hell they are headed for a downfall. I still miss owning a Nokia and always keep an eye out for any new devices they announce, hoping they can pull it off!

  • http://twitter.com/mark_i_am_ Mark W Webster

    Best of luck to you both, excellent summation Ricky, and all the best to you and Rita in your future work.

  • Phattrance

    :(

  • http://twitter.com/dangetti Dan @ World Of Nokia

    Hi Ricky/Rita. Sad to see such a massive brand (not just a site) close down but totally agree with your comments. As you know I closed World Of Nokia last month and actually don't regret doing it a single bit. Android has won me over and after I was offered a position at CoolSmartPhone writing about Android I have never been happier.

    So many of us once diehard Nokia fans have had enough with the company and lack of innovation whilst Android has come along a HUGE way in the last 2 years. I respect your openness in the post above and actually told everyone what it is like in the real world of being a Nokia user and just hope after loosing such a big site such as this and also loosing other sites like mine and NokiaAddict the company sits up and pays attention

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  • charlie

    Amen, brother.

    What is interesting to me is since moving to an iphone, my voice minutes have started to decline. Also number of SMSs. Apps really are destroying the phone. Sometime in the last year, the apps-phone just overwhelmed Nokia.

    I’m sorry to say this, but Nokia needs to adopt Android. It sucks, but they will be bankrupt in 3 years and only selling phones to arabs and indians who can’t afford anything better.

  • http://twitter.com/jamesburland James Burland

    As the 'Godfather of Symbian Guru' I'm absolutely gutted! To be totally honest, I'm not really sure what to think right now, I need time to read through your heartfelt post a second time… :(

  • munkimatt

    Blimey, big, BIG news!

    Rita, loved reading your articles, you've got a great style and can't wait to see what your future holds.

    Ricky, we've had some awesome chats over the years and one VERY drunken night out. As they say, it's been emotional.

    Best of luck to you both.

    Matt

  • xquzmoi

    I think everyone saw this coming in a while. It saddens me to read this last post by you guys.
    But I can't help but wonder if other Symbian/Nokia sites will follow you??

  • http://www.shefaly-yogendra.com Shefaly

    Not surprised with your disappointment in the least. The Quit-Nokia club’s growing then. I got the N97 in July 2009. Purely because I had been a Nokia user since 1996 (that is so last century, you might say). I blogged about my N97 disappointment soon after. http://bit.ly/bFj9Ww I am going to have to look at several Android handsets before I pick my next handset. Else I could always do what teens in Europe are doing: Blackberry. :-/

  • Mike

    Can I have the domain name then since you won’t be using it anymore?

  • http://www.thoughtsfromhell.net Michael Hell

    sad to see symbian-guru go. without reading the whole thing (yet), i'm sure i'll see ricky blogging around somewhere, and rita as well. no matter what topic, you guys BOTH have been one of my biggest inspirations when i started writing.

    i cant deny that i saw that one coming, we all Nokia is in trouble.

    Good luck rita and ricky for your next challenges

  • vinitneo

    sad but inevitable and not surprising at all. Best of luck both of you.

  • Yves

    Oh well… wish you good luck!

    BTW: I was shown yesterday the N8 by a Nokia Employee, I'm completely blown away, and it's still a prototype. Let me just tell you: you miss something, for me it's a absolute must buy! Definitively. At the moment I have the N900 and I'm happy with it. Mainly because of Linux, it's still a tablet with phone-functions and not a Smartphone…

    But I agree with the N97… And I too nearly left Nokia because of this… I would have, without the N900…

  • http://twitter.com/myfreehandblog roland eitler

    from nokia-fanboy to nokia-fanboy: good decision.
    i also switched finaly from latest N97, N97mini, E72 now to new iPhone.
    i had good years with symbian but every story has an end.

  • http://twitter.com/carlsilvers Carl Silvers

    I'm very sad to see the closure of S-G, but good luck to both of you with your future adventures!

  • urix

    Pathetic.
    As for me, I'm staying with my Nokia 5230.
    Cheap touchscreen phone with navigation – that's all I need.
    As for Android devices – there's no reliable car navigation software for Android, and no one knows when it will appear.

  • http://gerrymoth.co.uk gerrymoth

    Good luck Ricky & Rita in everything you do in the future, I'm sure we will see the rise of an unbranded named website soon!

    gerrymoth

  • http://nomadsteve.com SteveRowlands

    As the number 1 inspiration for me to start my own blog, it is with a heavy heart I read this final post on here. Ricky, thanks for your help setting up S60Blogger all those years ago, and Rita, thanks for keeping the positiveness in Nokia and Symbian right up until the end. This is one Symbian based site that I never thought would shut up shop, but it is testament to how far the platform has fallen behind.

    So what is next? Surely both of your creative flair and wit cannot be stifled for too long….. I look forward to it. :-)

  • http://twitter.com/MickyFin MickyFin

    I echo what everyone else has said, although shocking news, its not come as a surprise to be perfectly honest guys, because lets face it, we have all seen the decline in Nokia's standards over the last 18 months or so.

    First NokiAAddict, then WorldofNokia.co.uk, and now the Guru himself, who would of thought it even possible, but as said, many of us likeminded techies, we have seen it coming by a long shot.

    Great post Ricky, and Rita, and it pretty much also echo's my feelings, as you know Ricky, and my thoughts on the N97 which I too recently sold, not to mention my fury that there are no Official apps for Nokia, like eBay, IMDB, and many, many more.

    Keep in touch, and as you know, remember what I said at Nokia World Ricky? You were my inspiration, and mentor, and it was your blog Symbian-Guru which helped me get into Nokia, and the whole mobile blogesphere.(sp)

  • http://twitter.com/dhanusaud Dhanu Saud

    too sad to know both of you are quitting symbian-guru.com
    i wish nokia does something & get back you all again.

  • http://www.vikkichowney.com vikkichowney

    Sad to see you go, but I went the same way. Switched to a Nexus One and haven't looked back!

    VC

  • http://www.teic.ie/2010/07/opinion-kins-demise-a-warning-for-nokia/ Teic.ie » Features & Opinion Latest » Opinion: Kin’s demise a warning for Nokia

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  • http://www.facebook.com/mateusz.rodak Mateusz Rodak

    That's fuckin' wrong. :|

  • http://www.betatemplates.com/ Bilal Aslam

    I can’t believe what I just saw. I’ve been using Nokia N70 for quite some time now and I don’t feel any need to change it any time soon. Symbian is (was) an awesome OS and when Nokia bought and open-sourced it, I was sure it’s gonna rock the world but everything went wrong from there on. The people at Nokia have proved themselves “idiots”. I guess, I can sum up the following reasons for the crash of Symbian OS.

    1- OS fragmentation.
    2- Killing developers.
    3- Horrible touch.
    4- Ridiculous RAM.

    Anyways, love ya guys at Symbian-Guru, love ya love ya….

  • Seketh

    Well done sir. I hope people realise that Symbian^3 isn’t worth it, and as such they stop buying the crap Nokia releases to its customers.

    Want to see good Nokia smartphones? Simple, don’t buy a single Symbian^3 Nokia phone.

  • Adoool92

    lol i do agree with u about nokia becuase it is behind the competition that is between the other brands…hope it can come up again with A PHONE THT IS A MIND BLOWINGG ;)

  • http://erkkola.net Jussi

    Hi Ricky & Rita!

    Big thanks for contribution to the community over the years! Symbian Guru has been read widely inside Nokia. Our intention is to work hard, build great products and hopefully win your hearts back :)

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  • http://www.techknots.com Vikas SN

    Geez! I cant believe this is happening. Its like end of era.
    Anyways all the best Ricky and Rita in your future ventures.

  • http://www.mwiacek.com Marcin

    Long time ago there was company, who was creating the best phones on the market. Devices were better and better and people liked them. Unfortunately, there was no Linux support for them… Some enthusiasts prepared it.

    Company was bigger and bigger, there were more and models. Company employees decided, that they will not help enthusiasts. In the same time they were giving more and more money for fighting with simlock breakers.

    In some moment devices lost freshness. Somebody in company decided, that each device can’t have something. When there is good camera, you can’t have FM radio. When you have bigger screen, you can’t have video calls. When you have resistant for damages cover, you can’t have low SAR.

    Simlock breakers earned big money and there was still not Linux support created.

    In some moment we have seen real Linux powered device…it could be start of some new family. But it didn’t have MMS and after very short company decided, that it will be abandoned.

    This company really connecting people…

  • http://www.sample.org.uk/blog/ dsample

    I must admit, that's an impressively long post, and I didn't have time to read it all right now, but what I did read rang some bells for me too. I wrote a post on my blog about trying to choose my next phone, and I ended up choosing a Nexus One too. I wish I could have chosen a Nokia phone, but for me the apps are a big thing, and I wasn't going to go for an iPhone, no matter what happened.

    Having owned my Nexus One for about a month and a half now, I've already released one app in a couple of evenings (with over 400 downloads in a couple of weeks), and have a few more ideas I'm exploring. Every time I think about what I'm doing in relation to Nokia I get a little tear in my eye, but I can't find a way, however hard I try, to go back to a Symbian-based phone.

    I'm looking forward to trying a MeeGo device, but even then it seems like non-Nokia devices are being seen earlier than Nokia phones. I don't have experience of poor hardware builds like you've described, and I'd just love Nokia to release some Android devices, for me that would be a reason for me to ditch this HTC thing and pick up my Nokia fanboi hat again.

  • John

    I have N810, N900 and Iphone 3GS.
    N900 is SLOW SLOW SLOW!
    Whatever you do, it stutters, the scroll is never fluid, etc etc.
    3GS on other hand, just flying, having everything N900 has.
    It’s like comparing software based graphic rendering with a hardware one.

  • http://www.faq4mobiles.de/forum/symbian-news/84980-symbian-guru-com-stellt-den-betrieb-ein.html#post734325 symbian-guru.com stellt den Betrieb ein

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  • http://brandon.kernell.me/ Brandon Kernell

    Well, even though I have never heard of symbian-guru.com or even used Symbian before in my life, you are a passionate blogger. Now, of course, like any other nerdy-geek, I popped open a new tab and typed in “android-guru.com”, and noticed that it points to something, I hope this is yours, because that is one blog I will have to follow.

    (Passionate Android guy here)

  • http://twitter.com/dodgyd Dave Dee

    It's a shame, I've learned so much from this site and it's posters. It helped me to get the most out of my 5800. I still have 6 months to run on my contract, but even so, I've bought an iPhone 4 (no flames please – it would be inappropriate) and am running the contract in parallel, so it's costing me money but I am ultimately much happier with my new phone.

    I'll be sure to continue following you on twitter, perhaps with a new twitter name?

  • http://twitter.com/bluejacker Sascha

    Sad day for Symbian and Nokia. Hope somebody at Nokia takes notice. You guys did amazing work over the past years and made symbian-guru one of my favourite sites. Wish you all the best for the future. Maybe you will come back to Symbian one day… hopefully…

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    Nokia and Symbian WAKE UP!

    Your OS is so outdated that it is like a motorbike in the era of electric powered cars!

    Nabeel

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  • Jai

    I'm love/hate my n97, it's most useful and most annoying device ive ever owned. But i have to admit symbian is over for me too.

    I'm still not into android though, and i don't like htc or motorola design. I really want meego to be amazing, i hope you've at least registered meego-guru.com because you never know what you'll wanna do.

  • http://www.mobile-geeks.com/ geek

    A good late decision, I have already left Nokia to some extend though still I am using 5800. Now I write more about iPhone and android on my blog htttp://www.mobile-geeks.com. I have covered a lot of stories about Nokia, symbian apps, symbian themes, games etc, but I never crossed 6,000 pageviews in a day. But when I started writing about iPhone, I once got more than 30K pageviews in a day.

    Nokia is delivering the same juice in new bottle. Now the people are fed up and they don't want to taste another label.

    In face Nokia itself is leaving the symbian. They have already made it claear that there will be no more Nseries phone running on symbian. They want to focus on meeGo. But I doubt…. will MeeGo give a boost to Nokia's upcoming smartphones????

    Wake up the Finish Company. You are losing!!

  • http://twitter.com/TRENTSENSE TRENTSENSE

    Totally agree. As a Nokia fan in the past, my patience had been strained as well. Wishing you all the best.

  • http://www.rinish.com Rinish

    I didn't even know Nokia was still in business ;)
    I guess in reality they really aren't.

  • http://marilwyd.blogspot.com aliguana

    I bought an E71, and that has been the last Nokia phone that tempted me. Since then I have been dazzled by Desires and iPhones, and they make Nokia's “flagship” efforts seem dull and klunky. It's kind of like: everyone you know is running flashy Dual-core Windows 7 machines, and you're still running a 386 on DOS. Sooner or later you have to throw that sucker in the dumpster and join the 21st century. Which is what I did – I went to Android, my partner went to iPhone, and neither of us have looked back. Life is too short.

  • webitube

    Thank you for saying all of this. I was starting to feel that I was the only one and feeling a little guilty about jumping ship (very soon now) to Android. I’m a dev as well and had numerous projects in the planning stages for Symbian. But, now, the door is wide open for droid.

    I for one will not miss the “Memory Full” errors and the constant need for rebooting my phone.

    Will there be an “Android-Guru.com” coming soon?

    Ron (soon to be former 5800 XM user –> Looking at DroidX, Samsung Galaxy S, and HTC Epic 4G)

  • http://www.facebook.com/merajc Meraj Chhaya

    I've moved to Maemo myself. Enough of Symbian, even though I have a feeling S^3 will be a hit.

    Thanks for all those articles shared with us, best of luck for the future!

  • http://marilwyd.blogspot.com aliguana

    I still like my E71, but it isn't that reliable: signal drops for no reason, it restarts for no reason, sometimes the mic cuts out for no reason – all of which need a reboot. To say Nokias are more reliable is “rose-tinted” nostalgia. They aren't, and never were.

  • steven

    should you not be saying HELLO IPHONE

  • http://www.umpcportal.com chippy

    Makes sense. Trust levels in Symbian/Nokia from leading-edge users have dropped as other platforms have simply taken the lead. I still carry an N82 for the camera and free+offline navigation but like you, Ricky, I have moved to Android for my main phone and will find it extremely difficult to even test the ARM11-based N8. Users need Apps. Apps often need the browser and the browser always needs CPU power. The N8 will possibly fail on all three of those features.

    Chippy.

  • http://skyborne.myopenid.com/ Skyborne

    How amusing. My parents had decent feature phones in the past from Nokia, so I picked up a Shade (2705) for myself, and the display went blank within a month. Now I have an LG, no regrets. (P.S. Did you know even *prepaid* verizon phones are subsidized?)

  • bitflung

    To both of you, but Dotsisx especially, you should look at the N900. It's not symbian; I can't say this fixes the symbian related frustrations you've both extolled, but it is a Nokia device and is significantly greater in terms of user experience than any other Nokia I have used.

    Like you, I became disillusioned with Nokia. For me this was due to the combination of the N95-1 and the N97-NAM.

    As an American I was accustomed to subsidized handsets, but I bought the N95-1 directly on a whim. I loved it at first, but quite soon became frustrated with the minimal RAM it had. I even ordered sample parts of DRAM modules and started the process of hacking the hardware to upgrade my RAM (I'm a computer engineer by trade). I decided against physically modding the phone about the time the N95-8GB came out: it had US 3G bands as well as more RAM and so I considered selling my N95-1 and buying the 8GB.

    I didn't though. I waited. A long long wait. “Don't call it a come back”, the N97 video with all the pizzaz and punch… I used to watch this and drool. So when it came out, I dropped $699 on an N97-NAM. I LOVED IT for a month or so. US 3G – woohoo! About this time I fell into the hard-resetting cycle Ricky described. I averaged 1 hard reset per week over a 3 month period. Right – 12 hard resets in 3 months. I was traveling a lot at the time and so most of those resets came at times when I didn't have any chance to reinstall my apps or restore any data; I had to rely on Ovi services.

    I used up all of my re-installs allowed by the Ovi store, and had to call, wait on hold, describe my problem, convince the customer service rep that I really did know what my problem was, wait longer, convince them again that the issue was not user error, and eventually receive text messages enabling me to re-download my apps. Text messages. I had spent over $100 on apps at the Ovi store – tons of apps – and I received one text message per app. They weren't labelled for human recognition either, they only referred to product numbers (something like: 12341234123412341234). They only lasted one hour as well, and it was physically impossible to install all my apps within 1 hour, leading me to call again, go through the ridiculous process of convincing the idiots my issues weren't user error, and request a subset of my apps. Again and again and again, until I gave up. I gave up.

    At this point I had an expensive mobile phone that, once per week, I had to hard reset. I had no applications or data on it and I wasn't willing to go through the re-install process each time, so even when it worked I avoided installing my $100+ worth of software on it. My GPS was garbage (Ovi maps would cycle between thinking I was traveling 100mph in one direction, 0mph, 100 mph in another direction, 0mph, etc etc). My camera was already destroyed (I bought a replacement from Hong Kong instead of sending the phone to Nokia Care, because they just ship the !@#$'ing thing back to me unfixed). In short: everything about this device was rubbish. Worse than not working, it progressive became worse and worse, and caused me to either use it less or do more work to keep it almost working from time to time.

    I was ready to abandon the company. I was 8 months into owning the N97-NAM and was actively saving to buy something else, anything else, a dumb-phone from the 80's would have been better.

    I never would have bought it myself, being so pissed off at Nokia, but I received an N900 as a gift. I sold my N97 via Craigslist (sorry, if the buyer reads this, truly I'm sorry for selling you that piece of crap). Since then everything, every single stressful, hateful, worrisome, and horrid issue I had with the N97 has been replaced with fantastic goodness.

    The N900 is exactly what I had hoped the N97 would be: fantastic.

    If you have any desire to hold on to Nokia at all, or you want to test the waters again in the future, forget Symbian. It may be a great OS, but on Nokia devices it is just horrible (in my experience) these days. Head to Maemo / MeeGo instead. Fast and functional, I have never received an out-of-memory error, never done a hard-reset, easily backed up and restored applications (without using Windows), Nokia Messaging works fast and HTML email renders properly, touch screen is responsive, etc etc. Everything I hated or even just got annoyed by is fixed on this device. AND IT WASNT EVEN MEANT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. The successor to the N900, whatever it will be called, will be the first Maemo/MeeGo device from Nokia that is intended for typical end users. I'm excited. I'm even writing software for it.

    Maemo/MeeGo needs a user base. It needs more applications. It needs both at the same time. This is a chicken and egg problem; and maybe the problem will never be solved. If it is solved, the platform will be wildly successful, I'm certain of it because the experience is significantly good. If users avoid the platform for lack of apps, and developers avoid it for lack of users, then the vicious cycle could kill the platform. That's true enough to need to be stated clearly. Up till that death, if it comes, I'll be a Maemo/MeeGo die-hard fan. The N97 poisoned my view of Symbian/Nokia so much, but the N900 more than compensates: it brings Nokia into a favorable light. It makes me believe they are not only capable of doing great things, but also that they already are and the N900 is the first evidence of it.

    -bit

  • bitflung

    To both of you, but Dotsisx especially, you should look at the N900. It's not symbian; I can't say this fixes the symbian related frustrations you've both extolled, but it is a Nokia device and is significantly greater in terms of user experience than any other Nokia I have used.

    Like you, I became disillusioned with Nokia. For me this was due to the combination of the N95-1 and the N97-NAM.

    As an American I was accustomed to subsidized handsets, but I bought the N95-1 directly on a whim. I loved it at first, but quite soon became frustrated with the minimal RAM it had. I even ordered sample parts of DRAM modules and started the process of hacking the hardware to upgrade my RAM (I'm a computer engineer by trade). I decided against physically modding the phone about the time the N95-8GB came out: it had US 3G bands as well as more RAM and so I considered selling my N95-1 and buying the 8GB.

    I didn't though. I waited. A long long wait. “Don't call it a come back”, the N97 video with all the pizzaz and punch… I used to watch this and drool. So when it came out, I dropped $699 on an N97-NAM. I LOVED IT for a month or so. US 3G – woohoo! About this time I fell into the hard-resetting cycle Ricky described. I averaged 1 hard reset per week over a 3 month period. Right – 12 hard resets in 3 months. I was traveling a lot at the time and so most of those resets came at times when I didn't have any chance to reinstall my apps or restore any data; I had to rely on Ovi services.

    I used up all of my re-installs allowed by the Ovi store, and had to call, wait on hold, describe my problem, convince the customer service rep that I really did know what my problem was, wait longer, convince them again that the issue was not user error, and eventually receive text messages enabling me to re-download my apps. Text messages. I had spent over $100 on apps at the Ovi store – tons of apps – and I received one text message per app. They weren't labelled for human recognition either, they only referred to product numbers (something like: 12341234123412341234). They only lasted one hour as well, and it was physically impossible to install all my apps within 1 hour, leading me to call again, go through the ridiculous process of convincing the idiots my issues weren't user error, and request a subset of my apps. Again and again and again, until I gave up. I gave up.

    At this point I had an expensive mobile phone that, once per week, I had to hard reset. I had no applications or data on it and I wasn't willing to go through the re-install process each time, so even when it worked I avoided installing my $100+ worth of software on it. My GPS was garbage (Ovi maps would cycle between thinking I was traveling 100mph in one direction, 0mph, 100 mph in another direction, 0mph, etc etc). My camera was already destroyed (I bought a replacement from Hong Kong instead of sending the phone to Nokia Care, because they just ship the !@#$'ing thing back to me unfixed). In short: everything about this device was rubbish. Worse than not working, it progressive became worse and worse, and caused me to either use it less or do more work to keep it almost working from time to time.

    I was ready to abandon the company. I was 8 months into owning the N97-NAM and was actively saving to buy something else, anything else, a dumb-phone from the 80's would have been better.

    I never would have bought it myself, being so pissed off at Nokia, but I received an N900 as a gift. I sold my N97 via Craigslist (sorry, if the buyer reads this, truly I'm sorry for selling you that piece of crap). Since then everything, every single stressful, hateful, worrisome, and horrid issue I had with the N97 has been replaced with fantastic goodness.

    The N900 is exactly what I had hoped the N97 would be: fantastic.

    If you have any desire to hold on to Nokia at all, or you want to test the waters again in the future, forget Symbian. It may be a great OS, but on Nokia devices it is just horrible (in my experience) these days. Head to Maemo / MeeGo instead. Fast and functional, I have never received an out-of-memory error, never done a hard-reset, easily backed up and restored applications (without using Windows), Nokia Messaging works fast and HTML email renders properly, touch screen is responsive, etc etc. Everything I hated or even just got annoyed by is fixed on this device. AND IT WASNT EVEN MEANT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. The successor to the N900, whatever it will be called, will be the first Maemo/MeeGo device from Nokia that is intended for typical end users. I'm excited. I'm even writing software for it.

    Maemo/MeeGo needs a user base. It needs more applications. It needs both at the same time. This is a chicken and egg problem; and maybe the problem will never be solved. If it is solved, the platform will be wildly successful, I'm certain of it because the experience is significantly good. If users avoid the platform for lack of apps, and developers avoid it for lack of users, then the vicious cycle could kill the platform. That's true enough to need to be stated clearly. Up till that death, if it comes, I'll be a Maemo/MeeGo die-hard fan. The N97 poisoned my view of Symbian/Nokia so much, but the N900 more than compensates: it brings Nokia into a favorable light. It makes me believe they are not only capable of doing great things, but also that they already are and the N900 is the first evidence of it.

    -bit

  • Bobbynokiaballs

    Hurrah!

    I too have had multiple Nokias over the years, it was great until I bought a smartphone
    biggest and shittest crapfest I have experienced in years
    nokia 5800
    horrible
    die nokia DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://satiousers.com/ Biggles

    I can understand where you are both coming from, I feel much the same.

    It's not the OS that I've lost faith in, it's great at many things. But I have lost faith in the companies that make up the Symbian eco-system.

    The guy at the desk next to me in work has an HTC Dream, the first Android phone. It's getting on a bit, but it's rooted and now running an Android 2.1 build. He'll get a Cyanogen 2.2 build soon enough. My Satio on the other hand still doesn't have full kinetic scrolling.

    Nokia lost their way with hardware specs. That's fixable going forward. But they have no direction – they build a phone to suit every single possible situation and perfect none. The closest Nokia have come to perfecting a phone recently was probably the 5800 which got many major firmware updates and went from being mediocre to quite good. But why have the 5228, 5230, 5233, 5235, 5530 as well as the 5800? Don't fill every niche, just tighten up the platform and fix the issues.

    Samsung and Sony Ericsson have been even worse with their support. 'nuff said.

    Android on the other hand has had the core updated and replaced across all devices, officially or unofficially. And there's just one single app store that's open to all, so you never have issues with the apps. Me, on the other hand, I can't get Skyforce Reloaded for love nor money on my Satio. I've offered both.

    The reason I bought a Satio is because 6 months ago there was no other smartphone platform that offered a really good camera. The N8 will be king of the hill for imaging, but alas for Symbian, the difference now is slight. The iPhone 4 has a good camera, the Xperia X10 has a good one, HTC are getting good as well now. Symbian's unique selling point (for me at least) is gone.

    My wife just bought a Blackberry today. It's not as good as Symbian in a lot of ways. But RIM have been loyal to their customers, and their customers are loyal to them. Nokia have shown no loyalty, no vision, done nothing to save Symbian – and that's why it's future is probably as a replacement for S40 on pocket money PAYG phones.

  • http://twitter.com/ming387 Ming Zhang

    I think the big mistake was making the commitment to stick with Nokia/Symbian only. You guys have place yourself in a position that's very hard to convert. A “Symbian-Guru” site can and should only talk about Symbian devices, and symbian being near death at the moment is hard to put up any article as well.

    I certainly feel Ricky's pain as I'm being mock by my iphone friend on a daily basis. But the truth is nothing last forever, You join Nokia/Symbian at it's prime and now it is at it's low of the cycle. The company will make a comeback at the high end market with Meego hopefully by the end of 2011.

    You guys certainly deserve to take a break on defending the Symbian platform.

  • http://whatleydude.com James Whatley

    Hey man, I think I said all I needed to say on the phone earlier.

    I mean it when I say I wish you the best of luck with whatever you decide to do next, the mobile community won't be the same without you.

    One day, I swear, we'll have *that* beer…

    J .

  • http://twitter.com/psychomania666 PsychoMania

    Like many above I also echo Ricky's sentiments. I considered myself a long term die hard nokia fan (i'm sure anyone who knows me from nokia's forum will agree) and made the decision to switch to Android back in April with an HTC Desire.

    So far I haven't looked back and am still blown away by Android on a regular basis. The phone still hasn't lost it's wow factor either which is something that nokia's has been lacking for a while now.

    I'll probably always have a nokia but just a cheaper, smaller one as a backup phone. Currently a Nokia 3720c serves that purpose.

    To win people back nokia needs to ditch meego and use android for the high end and eventually the mid range. That is what the fans want, and they need to listen. Symbian will make a good replacement to the series 40 OS in my opinion.

  • http://twitter.com/ming387 Ming Zhang

    I think the big mistake was to title this site as “Symbian-Guru” – you are stuck with having to only write about Symbian devices. Symbian was at it's peak when the site started, now that it's gone in the dark like Windows Mobile. I can fully understand your frustrations. It's hard to be a fan and defend something that has nothing “visibly” better than it's competitor. And certainly defense is a tiring task – I too have friend with iphones and androids – I'm a shame to show them my N97 mini because when I try to show a feature the phone responds slowly and lags – thanks to it's poorly powered hardware.

    However, I don't think Symbian is dead so this site should not be closed. I think Ricky and Rita will get excited with Symbian 3 at the end of this year and definitely in 2011 with Symbian 4. Nokia and Symbian is in a very very ugly transition phase at the moment – management could've done a much better job thou.

    I certainly hope you guys would revive this site sometime in the future like how the maemo-guru was revived after the N900 was released.

  • http://twitter.com/ranousha яαη∂α

    Oh my God!!!
    What both of you wrote is so true, but I'm more like Rita, I have a slow connection here in Algeria and Nokia/Symbian is just what works here right now :(
    At the same time, I totally agree with Ricky and I'm having the same bugs but with my Nokia 5800 XpressMusic but I have to stick with it for now :(
    Awesome blog post which says a lot about us, Nokia/Symbian long time users…

  • Luke

    You will never regret moving to android. I gave up on Nokia after having Nokia devices on and off for the past 12 years (Mostly flagship devices too). Personally, I wish I had have swapped to android when the G1 came out.

    The user experience that you get with a Nokia phone is laughable compared to even a middle of the road HTC Hero. I was so amazed by how easy to use and powerful Android was, that I bought a Nexus One after just a couple of months. Nokia should just use the android OS on their phones, as they have so far to catch up.

  • http://www.iconfinder.net Martin LeBlanc Eigtved

    I hope some Nokia execs read this so they'll wake up before it's too late. When I heard that Nokia wasn't joining the Android club I knew something was terribly wrong.

  • Dan

    I’ve been thinking this for the last 9 months. Well done .. it may be the last kick in the pants Nokia / Symbian get. My own experience? After upgrading Mail for Exchange to version 3.0 through Ovi for my E71 – I’m now faced with a mail app that duplicates folders (Inbox / Sent / Deleted / etc etc). Each time a mail comes in – I have to search through them all to find what’s new! Currently standing at 11 Inbox folders – 6 Sent Items folders – 4 Deleted Items folders). How can that happen on version 3.0 of the software – on a phone designed for business? Android is the cure.

  • Tank2112

    Good luck to the both of you in your new ventures. It’s a melancholy day.

  • http://nseriesus.com matthew bennett

    I'm right there with you, Ricky. Onward and upward! Dotsisx, thanks for everything!

    I look forward to whatever you guys get into next!

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  • Konsta

    Only works in the US and UK though. Everyone else is left without.

  • Bill

    I too have been a Nokia fan since my first $800 8860. Symbian 3rd edition was great when it came out. But Symbian today is not much more than it was 7 years ago. It can’t compete feature-wise with modern platforms like iOS and Android.

    You’ll love the Nexus One. I kept my E71 around for tethering up until I loaded Android 2.2 on my Nexus One. Now Nokia has nothing left of interest.

  • http://twitter.com/juwlz Julie

    I'm SO with you there. I didn't have the same sort of issues with the N97 memory, but Symbian just won't integrate with my Google, Evernote, Dropbox and Pogoplug world in the same way that Android can and does. I too bought a Nexus One a couple of weeks ago (having tried Android on a cheap Motorolo DEXT (CLIQ). Coincidentally, my N97 went back for repair to the USB port at the same time. Apart from switching it on to make sure it works, I haven't even left it on long enough to drain the battery and make sure it got fixed – I'm that indifferent about using it now.

    The shame is that there's no denying that Nokia include great cameras, speakers, etc. in their hardware, even if they don't include enough memory. If they'd bring out a decent hardware running Android, it'd be a whole different story. But they won't.

    Julie

  • Tenchu

    Hi ,

    It’s sad to see this site going away as I have been a regular reader and have benefited from this site a lot. Thank you for the great work!

    I also share the same feeling as the same as The Guru towards Nokia and Symbian. I have own a number of symbian devices , N78, N82, N97 , Satio and I8910 just to to name a few. Nokia N82 was the device that won my heart. But ever since then, there was no more “flagship” nokia device that is worthy of the “N” name.

    N8 is a big disappointment , the specification is at least 1 to 2 years too old. It’s a spec which N97 should have had. Symbian^3 brings no new value other than just hacking in the pinch-to-zoom gesture. CPU is below todays standard, RAM is small. Well, it has five 3G freq and HDMI which are the only two things that are worth mentioning. The so called card based task manager is nothing new, my Samsung I8910 already has it since last year.

    I have been a symbian advocate after owning a N82. Since the release of Android and iPhone, I tried hard to defend why I chose symbian over Android/iPhone. I still think symbian OS is a capable OS but hindered by an outdated UI and sub-par hardware.

    Samsung I8910 (and Satio/Vivaz) was kind of the last hope for symbian as it was the most capable hardware inside and outside symbian circle. But with the lack of samsung and 3rd party app support on symbian, it couldn’t help.

    Seeing how little value Symbian^3 will bring, I really have to admit symbian is no more.

    Nokia knows this clearly. That’s why they made Maemo5/Meego instead of spending time and resources to fix symbian.

    But I totally agree on the comments The Guru has regarding Nokia and Symbian.

    I am still hanging on to my I8910 for as long as I can since it’s still a very capable phone. Together with SPB shell, this I8910 is not inferior to many top Android phones, even 3GS.

    But I know in 6-9 months time, my “symbian era” will be a part of my history.

    Goodbye to all you symbian friends.

  • http://twitter.com/gltovar Louis Tovar

    Hey man, went the same road. I started with an n95-3 in 2007… it was so much better than the iphone (to me) at the time. I was so happy with the device I blindly pre-ordered the n85-3. other than the form and screen, was total garbage compared to the n95. I made by with that phone until I sprung for a droid in Nov 2009. It has been fantastic. They only thing I miss is coreplayer (divx vids and such). I've overclocked my droid and have Froyo and its made be extremely happy.

  • http://shkspr.mobi/ TerenceEden

    Ignore what people say about the N900. Its best feature is that it can be hacked to run Android – http://www.nitdroid.com/

    Having played with all sorts of phones, it strikes me there are three Nokias.

    Nokia 1 makes the low end feature phones which dominate the emerging markets. Solid dependable and fun phones.

    Nokia 2 make awesome hardware. Great camera, impressive antennas, lovely form factors. I think the N97/mini dropped the ball with the keyboard, but their hardware is amazing.

    Nokia 3 make or integrate software. They are just letting everyone down. The UI is a mess, the UX is frustrating and the stability is poor.

    Sad for Nokia that they've lost you – but I'm happy to have you in the Android Camp.

    T

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  • http://www.erictate.com/ Eric Tate

    I saw this coming from the moment maemo-guru was shut down. The decision you made is fully justified though.

  • http://twitter.com/NN900 Traxex

    Sad that you will stop updating your site :( Really liked it .
    If Nokia had not released the N900I would have already changed to HTC after 7 years of Nokia.
    I hope Nokia is getting back to their old strength with the MeeGo platform.

  • Trev

    As a web developer/maintainer of a number of fairly high-traffic sites, I can definitely confirm that Symbian is well and truly dead when you look at the numbers. According to Google Analytics, we’re seeing the Nokia(and I assume mostly Symbian) userbase down to <1% these days. Our averages are about 52% iOS, 45% Droid, and then the "others" in the last 3% or so. We try our best to test the major mobile platforms, but no longer bother with Nokia. The userbase is too small and irrelevant.

    On a positive note: The N900 is the most interesting device I've seen from them for a long time :)

  • http://twitter.com/NN900 Traxex

    Sad that you stop updating your site, really liked it :(
    And if Nokia had not released the N900, I would have already changed to HTC too after 7 years of Nokia only.
    I hope Nokia is getting back to the old strength with their MeeGo platform.
    Wish you good luck with your Nexus one :P

  • N900guest

    I can understand your frustration with Symbian phones, but I don’t agree that Nokia is losing the game. The N900 is a wonderful phone, easily beats any Android phone and iPhone I’ve tried. Too bad it’s the only Maemo phone to come out, as Maemo just seems so much more fun to use, but if the future Meego phones are half as good, Nokia hasn’t lost yet.

  • Guest

    That something is Meego and it just might be that it’s not wrong at all.

  • NZtechfreak

    Hi Ricky, I kinda sad to read this, but I understand completely. I jumped ship a long time back, and haven’t looked back (although I’m always checking out what Nokia is up to, just never seeing anything that makes me want to come back).

    Hope you enjoy your Android – I loved my Desire, and now loving my Galaxy S, I suspect you’ll be happy too once you learn to live with the inferior cameras (although gains are being made here too in the Android realm now).

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  • ObsceneJesster

    You will love your Nexus One….I made the switch 3 months ago and I will never go back to Nokia.

  • Fre

    I came to this site via Engadget and expected the comments to be full of people arguing this decision.
    Frankly, I’m glad to see this is not the case. Personally I have abandoned Nokia 3 years ago, for the very same reasons stated here.

    I had bought a Nokia n93, a 745 euro phone, expecting to have the best phone out there. I was promised DVD quality filming, WiFi, a modern internet browser and much much more. Was I disappointed.. The Nokia N93 was exactly the same phone I had bought years earlier for half the money, only bigger and with two or three new applications. The camera was still crappy, you couldn’t even zoom while filming because you could hear the inner mechanism ticking on the recording.

    Needless to say I was mad at Nokia. I sold the phone a year later for a third of the original value and bought the first iPhone. It’s a well known fact that the iPhone was missing some key features that my Nokia did have, but I was so happy with the switch. Finally I had a phone with a decent MP3-player, WiFi that didn’t require me to enter my WEP key everytime I tried to connect, a full HTML webbrowser and a phone that had a well-designed UI.

    I know I must sound like an incredible fanboy, but to me Apple changed the mobile world. I’ve had Nokia phones since I was 11, I’ve used Symbian for 7 years and the last 3 of those years I had seen nothing new. So to me it was a revelation to finally have something new, maybe not new functionality but a fresh perspective.

    Ever since the first iPhone I’ve seen Nokia standing by the sideline doing nothing. They’ve now shown us Symbian UIˆ3, gleaming with pride they showed a video of an OS with all the functionality we’ve already grown accustomed to for about 3 years, only slower. Not even Meamo and Meego can convince me anymore. I just don’t get them, they’re some of the most powerful people on this planet but they don’t know what they’re doing. I personally believe that most people that read a lot of tech blogs (including myself) could do a better job of managing Nokia’s Mobile department.

    I’m just glad that Android exists. Google knows what it’s doing, it knows what users want and have the technology and funds to give it to them. Give it some time and Android will be the new Symbian, there’s no doubt about that.

  • http://twitter.com/RobertHall Robert Hall

    well this is a shock…but i guess slowly but surely it was going to happen eventually…given nokia's showing nowadays…im sorry to see the Guru go…but how can i truly disagree? i too have been feeling this way…im actually been forcing myself to look forward to nokia devices and to be honest ill get the n8…only for the camera….but i wont be an early adopter….i too was stung by the n97…and sold it within a few months…and least we forget the n93 saga….i thought id never see another nokia device like the n93…then came the n97….i echo your sentiments where the Nseries stood for top end…then i saw the n76,n71 and a plotheora of n-labelled devices that just werent…ovi i had looked forward too…but there seems to be always an issue with some service…eg NM not connecting, or ovi share not refreshing, ovi store “regionalising”…..”this app is not available in your country”..nokia youre a WORLDWIDE brand…i too am frustrated…and many times ive said…nokia needs to FIRE their “professionals” and use the “regular” man..as its the “regular man” who seems to know what HE wants…maybe guys like ricky cadden,mickyfin,mark guim and the lot need to be in someway used by nokia directly…even as a liason between nokia heads and the community….rather than these guys who are tucked away in a lab in finland….i remember the days when nokia were innovators…now to me its more of “keeping up with the jones'”….nokia you need to do something big…bold…the n95 cannot be the “last” of a great nokia…..im giving meego a chance but to be honest…the 1st meego device better be done right….ie ovi maps with navigation, ovi store with at least 100 useful apps, services all working, mind blowing UI/processor/ram/hardware…i want to be so happy with that device that a FW update could come 9months after release and i wont even be bothered…ie the original FW works so well that the device doesnt actually even need to be updated…
    i dont think nokia will listen until one more major blog does the same….if Rafe & Steve EVER decide to call it quits…nokia will prob then listen..but word of warning nokia “prevention is better than cure….”

  • http://twitter.com/nexusonederful N 1

    Welcome to the club, Symbian Guru. We've got jackets!

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  • Frak808

    If Nokia goes Anrdroid, then they could put their nav software on it. The app is already written, Nokia just pulled the license for the data.

  • bluelotus

    GOOD, when I saw your tweet about getting the N8 I was like “the N8 doesn't bring any innovation to the market, he might be doing it for the blog but deep down I think he dislikes Symbian/Nokia”

    I had the Nexus One but sold it because I hated the touch icons on the bottom (not very functional) and the speaker, I also wanted a qwerty really.

    Android is growing faster than Symbian and the 3.0 release this year will bring hopefully a new nexus from google.

  • http://beingwaveydavey.blogspot.com/ waveydavey001

    Big news, best of luck to you both. Always enjoyed reading your articles.

    I came into Symbian and Nokia with the N95 an awesome piece of technolgy with awesome software that I believe was truly groundbreaking. Whilst I dabbled with other bits and pieces and had the real 'big' internet on my home PC & laptop, the N95 opened up social networking, blogging, maps and gps and even digital photography as it gave me a camera in my pocket every day. Brilliant.

    Problem is I also left Nokia after the N95 as nothing really seemed like a step forward. Sure I advised Mrs Wavey on an E71 which is lovely but not for me (and she just wanted a phone that worked out of the box).

    I moved to an Apple iPhone 3 and can honestly say I've missed nothing but the Camera, (solved now by the iPhone 4). Apps tend just to work are plentiful and you don't need to follow dozens of blogs just to resolve set up issues. For the odd few you consider buying, they are a fraction of the cost of a symbian app. Meanwhile for freinds who have Nokias, some on my reccomendation, I continue to help them resolve issues (often having to tweet for help)

    I understand the walled garden thing, I really do, and some people just need the ability to fiddle don't they? I guess that is where Android or Jailbreaking comes in.

    I love the look of the N8, really do, and considered getting one. If there is no apps, little support and the touch screen is anything as laggy as the X6 I played with yesterday I probably won't.

    Sad days, but as the post above shows it isn't all bad at Nokia. I think this is all a blip (albiet a large one) and look forward to bigger things for Nokia and Symbian

    In the meantime enjoy the ride you two and all the best in what you do for the future.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jay.uhdinger Jay Uhdinger

    same here. had the n97 and it was just a bad device. i hoped for so much and it was still too much phone and too little computer for me. have a moto droid since december and its all i ever wanted in a phone. welcome to the android side of things. nokia wake up!

  • Ebow

    Welcome aboard Captain Ricky! I knew and was waiting for nokia and symbian to lose one of its loved bloggers for them to realise this: That they make the best phones but their software and ram suck to the core. Just imagine even the n97 on 1Ghz running Eclair or froyo? That will send Nokia to over 70% control of the world’s phone market. Just saying nokia put down ur guard and embrace it. Nothing compares to ur signal strenght n other things but symbian is dead, accept it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jay.uhdinger Jay Uhdinger

    the google navigation works fantastic for me. it also works offline if you set the route while having any sort of connection like wifi or 3g. it downloads all data and brings you to the place you want to go. way better than ovi maps. i tried both.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jay.uhdinger Jay Uhdinger

    and unfortunately thats always the problem. why do so many people stick to firefox? because of all the cool little plugins that help you to make life easier. i do not think developer will adopt another os. no way. it will be android and iphone.

  • enyibinakata

    Jussi, stop blogging abot, get on with it !

  • luis

    Thank you for your time and great blog. I too was disappointed with Nokias lack of QA and speed. The sun set for them in 2001 and fell into the frito lay syndrome.

    Best of luck!

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  • http://twitter.com/RogerPodacter Roger Podacter

    I am a nokia fanboy, and i finally sold my n97 mini 3 months ago and purchased a google nexus one. i feel guilty and sad leaving nokia, but good lord the android experience is completely opposite of symbian! its such a great OS to use and tweak. and the nexus is superb build quality and materials. the nexus is honestly the best device i've ever owned, and gives me that same giddy feeling the n95 gave me all those years back,

    even if nokia does start to compete with meego or symbian 4, who cares? at that point android is already full steam ahead, and will only be even more polished by that time in the future. its almost like a no win situation for nokia, an uphill battle the entire way. good luck ricky and dotsisx:)

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  • http://twitter.com/Eismaus Eismaus

    I have been using Nokia Phones since 1999 but around 3 Month ago i switched to an Motorola Milestone and im not missing Symbian or Nokia since then. So i can fully understand you.
    Hopefully you didn't stop blogging complettly.

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  • enyibinakata

    Who made you a Symbian guru ? The real Symbian gurus are at allaboutsymbian.com as follows Steve Litchfield, Rafe B and Ewan Spence. They also share some of the concerns you have but do so with consideration of the Symbian foundation roadmap.

    Anyway its sad to see you go, thanks for your contributions to Symbian. I feel you are making the wrong decision but I wish you the best in the 'big brother' Google world.

    To all the naysayers, a UI does not a mobile OS make. Symbian is the most fit for purpose the most phone friendly (it does not need an extra cpu for mobile function). Symbian 3 and 4 will rock. Over 200 million reasons why Symbian is far from dead !

  • Davidste

    @Charlie,,, u dick,, indians dont buy subsidized phones from the networks,,,and get ripped,,freaking idiot..if you so condemn Indians,, why the fuck are so many american companies coming to India to suck our d**ks..prick think before you write..

  • jfourgeaud

    Am sad to hear about the news, but not really surprised.
    The ecosystem has changed a lot in the past year, and unfortunately, Nokia has not been able to engage with its biggest advocates to improve the situation.
    Victim from its own success, Nokia's brand image is now free-falling.
    Of course developing markets are bringing volume and sales, but Nokia is loosing its relevance in the developed market.
    The future of Symbian in the ecosystem?
    Well.. it's still too tied up with Nokia, and definitely not free to make its own moves.
    Ultimately, too many people with their own agenda, and no real movement to carry on and make things happen differently.

    Ricky, Rita, all the best for your new endeavors and you know you'll have my support no matter what you need.
    And yes Rita, I need to visit you in Lebanon! :D

  • http://twitter.com/rgleeson renny

    :-(

  • Trev

    As a quick follow up to my last comment: I get a real kick out of the “Nokia is rising again” type remarks. Are you serious? I have about 50 odd Google Analytics profiles here that say they’re dead in the water, and have been for quite some time. <1% of mobile users, and more like 0.5% on some sites.

    The Nokia 1100 is still my favourite. That thing is a legend! (and no, I'm not in some third world country). Any of the Symbian phones drove me nuts. I could never understand why people put up with that software. It was bug-ridden and slow, with mostly a horrible user experience to top if off.

    RIP, and cheers to bigger and better things for Nokia. I hope they adopt Android.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001282471898 Matthew Crandall

    AS the artist formerly known as Ollywompus, I'd like to thank you guys for thanking me back!! I personally moved on about a year and a half ago, for all of the exact reasons that you've mentioned — my last two Symbian phones were the disaster that was the N85 (whomever was the QC manager that let through that piece of poorly manufactured garbage doesn't even deserve to work at Motorola, let alone Nokia) and the quite good, but not quite good enough Xpress Music 5800. Since then I'm rocking an iPhone, and a Linux netbook — different direction for my mobile needs than yours, but for the same basic reasons: mobile tech has moved on, and Nokia is stuck in '06. I've owned or tested every Symbian phone from the 3650 to the 5800 – I took the very first picture of my daughter in this world on the N73 – I took the video of her first steps on the N95 – I took the first pictures of my son on the N85 – and the last existing picture of my Grandma was taken on an N70 I was testing at the time. Nokia smartphones were an integral part of my life – and Nokia screwed that up, for all of the reasons that Ricky and Rita have mentioned.

    So while I'm sad to see something that has become an institution in my RSS reader going dark, I think you both are making the right decision: there's no point in being a mobile geek for a dead product. At some point the Symbian fans of the world start to look like Apple Newton fans – the time has come to move on.

    So to quote Douglas Adams – So long, and thanks for all the fish! Wherever you both land blog wise, you'll take a lot of us with you!

    P.S. Ricky, I still freakin' have your N81 sitting in my desk drawer, email me your new address (downdurnst <<<<AT>>>> gmail <<<<<DOT>>>> com) so I can finally get it to you!

    -Matt (aka Ollywompus)

  • froschy

    I can understand how this decision must have been hard but after Nokia continue to make the same mistakes over and over again it's completely understandable. I just don't think Nokia realizes how dire a situation they have put themselves in and at some point they will need to start trying some radically different approaches like not hobbling their devices with low specc'd hardware or maybe even releasing android based handsets.

    As for the N8, after being stung by the N97 the only way I would purchase the N8 would be if Nokia launched with a heavily discounted exchange program for the N97, no more than US $150. I suspect that this is the only way that Nokia will get all but the most ardent fanbois to try the N8 after the experience with the N97.

    In relation to this experience, after a year with my N97 I have come to the conclusion that Nokia basically did a “Bait & Switch” scam as the actual N97 is still nothing like the one that Nokia marketed, hyped or demoed.

    Anyway, all the best to you both.

  • http://wirelessstyle.info/2010/07/01/nokia-to-pass-on-android-focus-on-meego-and-symbian/ Nokia to pass on Android, focus on MeeGo and Symbian | Wireless Style

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  • Bill

    Ah you Nokia guys should really see what’s a Jailbroken iPhone means. You run anything, do you anything you want. So awesome. A fanboy here at work showed me his N900. What a joke. Why the hell would I think it’s cool to see the terminal and type htop to see the CPU utilization? C’mon? I want to see it perform smooth transitions, have a great user interface, not being cumbersome.

    He keeps saying “It’s Linux! Maemo is Linux!” and to me, it looks indeed like Linux. From 1999.

  • http://www.reinvent.ro Catalin Giboi

    I too have ditched Nokia because of the never-ending frustrations generated by the E72 in it's early post launched months and I switched over to Android and its HTC Desire which has been an awesome experience in the past few months since I have it.

    Good to see other fellow Nokians and ex-Nokians chose Android as a go-to platform, it means that we found what we were missing in all those Nokia/Symbian (smart?)phones.

    Welcome to the 21st century! It's official, Nokia lost the battle for the developed world (places where unlimited or crazy amounts of data are sold very cheap) and they should really focus on developing countries, otherwise sharks (hostile takeover-ers) will come for them.

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  • mbrett

    Sad to see the end of the site, but can understand the sentiment in the article. I still hold up hope and optimism, but maybe that's because I'm English and have been accustomed to pointless optimism after following England in the world cup.

    Good luck in your other sites and future sites. I'll keep following you both on Twitter and see what's next for you both.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/ruslan1987 Ruslan Moussaev

    OMG, I own N97 right now and I had every issue he mentioned, memory, pictures, rebooting and etc. It is sad but I am giving chance for N8

  • http://twitter.com/SlipKoRnSaad SlipKoRnSaad

    Hmm i don't know if you'll be back when at least Symbian^4 will be alive, but i think you'll !

    Symbian is such a great OS overall (especially of course the non-touch variant), but, me too i've sold all of my touch-screen symbian devices (even the great Omnia HD) and i was never a N97 owner btw ;) anyway, i'm keeping only some great legends just “for fun” : E90, E71, N82, N91 8Gb, INNOV8. I use my N900 as my primary device, and i'm totally happy with it, and i keep an N82 for a primary low light condition photo taking…anyway i'm too going to have an android device (still thinking about the “right” device) but i'll wait till symbian^4 before take my decision to drop this OS…

    I know Rita since the early days of dotsisx and we had some great moments sharing our passion about symbian applications : http://dotsisx.blogspot.com/2007/10/styletap-co…

    Good luck guys :)

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  • http://dear-apple.com/ DearApple

    I bought E71 back then after reading some glowing review. What a piece of crap software. Thanks god I swapped it for iPhone 3G. Before that I was thinking iPhones are like expensive toys. But I've changed my mind. And Nokia.. well.. farewell.

  • Thepirate

    I couldn’t agree more. I have been a customer of nokia since I bought my first mobile over 10 years ago. But I have been burnt so badly by the n97 that they have lost me.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/manuel.diaz.m Manuel Diaz

    Great. Just a few months ago, this blog convinced me of *not* buying the htc hero, and instead bought the n97 mini. Just *great*

  • JayWalker

    As a developer I gave up on Symbian two years ago. I have recovered my peace of mind. Thank you Google and Apple.

  • Rissvi

    u both was inspiration for me and nokia fans as well.. will be missing u both :(

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    The camera on the Nexus One is the only thing that I'm not excited about. I think it'll do OK, but I've certainly been spoiled by Nokia in that regard.

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    Lol, no. The iPhone doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. I just can't handle that much lockdown.

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    Glad you didn't take too much offense, Julien, given the main topic of the post. ;)

  • http://www.techalps.com/nokia/goodbye-symbian-guru-com-and-thanks-for-everything.html Goodbye Symbian-Guru.com and thanks for everything! | Tech Alps

    [...] has ever written and I can completely understand everything he wrote. You see, Ricky and Rita are done with Symbian-Guru.com and are moving on to other mobile operating systems and passions. Like me and many of you that [...]

  • Jamiliramu

    download mediabox from maemo repositories…..It plays youtube video……….TuneWiki also plays youtube videos

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    Honestly when I shut down Maemo-Guru I was still pretty committed to this site. I'm just completely fed up with Nokia and Symbian at this point.

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    We're not shutting down the site at all – it's not for sale, either. It will remain live, as many people still visit for the various reviews and walkthroughs that we've done. We're also leaving it open for the possibility of reviving it – as you mentioned, it's *possible* that Nokia/Symbian will be able to work some magic somehow and return to being competitive in the mobile arena. In my heart of hearts, I'm still a Symbian fan, and I still *really* want them to wow me.

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    Right now we have no plans to start up a new site. We both just need to take a break.

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    With all my heart, I hope that's true. I would LOVE to be able to write a comeback post.

  • http://twitter.com/mobileminmag Antoine RJ Wright

    I can chime in with Thera and say that you both will be missed.

    Ricky, thanks for the n75, and entertaining my questions and observations about Nokia and Symbian. It is you I credit for keeping my eyes open about Symbian, and looking always at the good and tbe bad. And yes, while I also have and enjoy my n97, I also realize that at some point a decision will have to come and I will have to not just ask what works for me, but what will just work. I respect you a great deal, and still need to get down theere for a peresonal thanks.

    Rita, I loved your poetry before your mobility. Though, it is your views and uses of mobile that kept me honest. It's one thing to just use a device, but you always keep the perspective of making sure that all you do with mobile enriches the lives of those you most care about, especially your family and patients. I would love to share some prose again with you, and maybe even in person. You too will be missed on this side of mobile.

    As for SG, ther are a lot of lessons to be learned here. Much that I take with me towards MMM. Platforms are important, and sometimes, they become a whole lot more. But, those attachments can also wear thin if not reprocicated. This site has done a ton for the Symbian platform and Nokia brand, it will be interesting to see what happens in terms of social media for those.

    Life gets intresting from here. Blessings to you both.

  • http://www.erictate.com/ Eric Tate

    I know you were. As a former devotee to S60 (going all the way back to my first one, the 3600 and it's lovely birth control circular keyboard) all the way through my final which was the N95-4 two years ago. Your site provided me tons of valuable resources and info. And when I had and loved my N810, maemo-guru did the same. But I had gotten the same feeling towards Nokia's decline once things started getting to fragmented (Symbian ^3 here, S60 there, Maemo over there, MeeGo coming, yadda yadda yadda). The Nexus One is definitely the way to go. You made the best choice and it's the same choice that I made and have not regretted for a moment.

  • Tony

    sadly i agree with you. its a sad day to the nokia community to lose bloggers like you guys.
    i hope nokia reads this…. and all our comments. i am giving them last chance with meego. the n900 is holding on….but only just. i will see what meego delivers end of the year.

    to nokia: you still conforting yourselves by repeating that you are the largest market holder of phones. while thats true for now, your market stance in developed nations are declining very fast. soon you will no longer be known as top of the range smartphone company but just a cheap phone company to the masses.
    i am not pleading you to improve, i only wish to inform, and let you know your clients has many MANY other options.

  • http://twitter.com/juanmateo Juan Mateo

    Is sad Ricky, but may be if I was living in US I will take the same desicion, but outside US the thing is not the same.

    As you I have a long term Nokia history, I think I am using Nokias since the 2160 in 1997 (the first AMPS/TDMA phone made), since I test the signal and voice quality in this thing I can never left Nokia, I tried some Motos and Ericssons (not Sony Ericssons) and they simple fail against Nokia. Then I moved to symbian with the monstrous 3650 (now thinking about the blue one was the same blue as N8) and was my firs smartphone. Across the years tested other smartphones (mostly WinMo) but they never lasted more than a week.

    Short stoy is that after the N80 I bought the N95-3 and was very very happy, after N95 the E71, may be the best smartphone overall that I ever owned, last November sold my E71 and got an E72 because for sure it will be best, right? No, not right.

    The E72 is a fine device, but with two problems, first is not true that the build quality is near the E71, even is not near to the N97 mini, second problem was the mail (Nokia Messaging) client, as Rita wrote every single app that went out from the Messaging team is a disgrace, if Nokia really care about customers Davis Fields and all the messaging team must be fired a year ago and move the Messaging team to England, India, China or any other place were they could find talented Symbian developers.

    I like to view myself as a power user, and in fact I am, my smartphone requirements are not the average Joe ones, I travel a lot, I need a solid voice/data capacity at least in five countries (Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, US and Mexico), I onw three differnt SIMs for three different countries so I need an unlocked phone, I need guided maps for three of the four countries that mentioned, my life rely in Exchange connectivity but also need to check my Gmail/Hotmail accounts and usually like to check my Facebook/Twitter accounts.

    Since the N95 all my needs were fulfilled by a Nokia/Symbian device, after the E72 failure, tired dealing with email on my phones and a little fatigue regarding the old UI I bought a Motorola Milestone (your Droid).

    I must admit that android UI IMO is not the most beautiful out there (at least no right now), is better than symbian for sure, but is not an iPhone, but the problem was what I lost, I lost Exchange capabilities (android is plain and simple horrible regarding Exchange, even with 3rd party apps), I lost my maps and guidance capabilities (yep, google maps works, but in any of these countries you have guidance and 3rd party does not have maps for South America), I lost my hotmail acccount (well not lost, but you need to rely on POP), so at the end of the day was android better than symbian? No, it wasn´t. After a month I sold the Milestone.

    Is the iPhone a choice for me? For sure not, same maps problem (there is no iPhone GPS app capable of routing in South America), now with iOS4 some exchange problems and hey, owning 3 SIMs and thinking on an iPhone is just a joke.

    If the N900 bear American 3G bands, without a doubt I had bought it, but it doesn´t, so I ended with the Mini, has it problems? Yes it has. Does it the job? Yes it does, at least the job that I need it to do.

    So what was the lesson for me, Nokia/Symbian give me what I need, nor Android, nor iPhone, but for sure I understand your choice, at the end of the date all of this is about choices and needs.

    Sorry the long post, I was reading you and enjoying your posts since long ago and only want to share my experience. One last word, is funny to see other Nokia bloggers trying to convince themselves that what are using is the best, for instance Jorge from Nokia Mobile Blog after leaving Nokia was a huge Blackberry fun, now after two months is an iPhone taliban and so on. (you follow them on twitter, you know what I am talking about).

    So, farewell and good luck.

  • Emailandbombardme

    Any luck in finding an android phone with high quality camera sensor? The high optic lens in N8, is pretty much the sole reason that I am considering it when it is released (pending a good review from tech blogs).

    Anyone has recommendations for an android device with a N95/N82 quality camera. I know asking for a xenon flash is too much? But, hey a fella can still dream, can’t he ?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/K6PAYYNMIRTT7EQ6AQH646I75Y Maurizio

    In the past I owned a handful of Nokia Symbian-powered mobiles : E62, N73, N95. To this day I still use either of them with no problem despite the aging software and hardware. I expected a similar or better experience with the N97. Alas, no luck. I have to admit that I am currently using my old iPhone. It is certainly over-rated, but I've never had the need to perform a hard-reset twice in a day. The interfase delivers a better experience. It is a shame that Nokia put so much effort in the hardware – it is wonderful when it works. Unfortunately it was almost never.

    If I decide to substitute my iPhone anytime soon, I would not consider a Nokia product anymore, if only because of the seemingly non-existing consumer support.

  • http://www.newsurl.net/what-does-it-mean-that-kin-sidekick-and-symbian-guru-went-r-i-p-within-about-24-hours/ What does it mean that KIN, Sidekick and Symbian-Guru went R.I.P. within about 24 hours? | News URL

    [...] and it’s much more foreshadowing than the other two events. Ricky Cadden posted: “Symbian-Guru.com is Over.” One of Nokia’s most vocal enthusiasts is switching to Android. He expects to receive [...]

  • matt

    Five days before this went up, I had the same thoughts you did. My screen slider switch broke on my N97 and fell into some grass, unable to be found. I went online, bought a Nexus one to use on AT&T, updated to Froyo 2.2 and couldn’t be happier. I have owned the N95 8gb, 5800 XP music, e71, n900, and the n97. I was a loyal follower for the few years I owned Nokias. After the Nexus One, I do not see myself going back to Nokia/Symbian/Meego in the foreseeable future.

    I loved the camera on my Nokias, but this day in age, the competition is there. The N1 takes decent pictures. Obviously, having an AMOLED display makes outside viewing terrible, but that is my only problem as of now.

    I would brag about my Nokia devices. I would ridicule iPhone owners (still do – Android is better), but I am at the end of the line with Nokia. I will not shout out support for something I dread using. If the N97 would ring, I’d dread picking it up. Texting – keyboard is terrible. Web browsing – Android (2.2), in my opinion, is the leader.

    Bye Nokia
    -From a person that you probably didn’t/don’t care about because I am in the U.S.
    Good luck in the rest of the world.

  • Gene

    A Meego pad is in the works, and remember, Maemo actually started it’s life on tablets!!

  • Gene

    I don’t know about the user base, but maemo-garage had ALOT of useful apps, with an email client, chat, browser apps light years ahead of anything any of Symbian, iOS, and Android ever offered. It also brought Linux-based swap memory to a handheld device. My only doubt is actually on Qt. I’ve never seen Java succeed on the UI, and I doubt Qt will change that multi-platform dev trend.

  • Gubatron

    I’ve been saying this for the past 2 years, Nokia should try at least one phone on Android. There’s no way in hell I’d buy a Nokia phone until they do Android or something better. It’d be a no-brainer to choose between Nokia, HTC and Motorola if all of them ran the same operating system, I’d keep the Nokia hardware, as it is, there’s no incentive for me to buy Nokia when the software sucks.

    As a developer, it’s also a hell of a lot easier (and fun) to develop for Android. They’re doing an amazing job. With Maemo, if you’re not a linux developer I feel sorry for you, you have to learn a lot of how you’re supposed to work under linux to get the hang of it, and there isn’t a single one place where you can create and deploy your app on the phone in one click.

  • Gubatron

    Maemo needs a Marketplace meant to be used on a mobile device. The experience is ridiculously hard for the average person compared to an AppStore or Android Marketplace.

    Nokia needs to try the competition and realize they’re way behind software-wise.

    From an entrepreneur/developer perspective I will not waste time and resources on developing applications that won’t get installed because of the frustration the user will face during the installation process.

  • http://www.balendnaoom.com/testblog/?p=29 Nokia to pass on Android, focus on MeeGo and Symbian | My Blog

    [...] for the future of Nokia and addresses many of the weak points singled out by Ricky Cadden in his Farewell to Symbian-Guru post which announced the closing of his popular Symbian blog. Wonder if there is any [...]

  • froschy

    P.S. “Craptastic”has to be the best description I've heard for the N97, in the terms of Nokia discussions, Kudos to you.

  • http://twitter.com/NokiaMovilBlog Josué Giménez

    You guys are so stupids! You don´t know nothing about Nokia! If you like another pltaform open a new Blog!

  • http://www.mediar.cz/nova-media/fanousek-nokie-ukoncil-svuj-blog-o-symbianu-propadl-totiz-androidu/ Fanoušek Nokie ukončil svůj blog o Symbianu. Propadl totiž Androidu | Médiář.cz

    [...] rozlučkovém zápisku si to se svou předchozí láskou poměrně ostře vyříkává: I can’t continue to support a manufacturer who puts out such craptastic ‘flagships’ as the [...]

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    Thanks for the kind words, friend. I'll be around. :)

  • sunyen

    from the moment i owned the n80, among the first few phones with WIFI back then, i see Nokia is the future but i’ve gave up on nokia since february and it actually sadden me because i always been a nokia fan, i have convinced hundreds of ppl to buy nokia over the years..we all been always hoping and hoping Nokia will come out with something great but it never happens..N8, N9 or Meego is tooooooo late, they already LOST..

  • http://blog.datadirt.net datadirt

    Dear Mr. Guru,

    before I go into detail – you are so on point!!! I never commented much on your page but I used to be an avid reader for the last years. I, too, was a Nokia “fanboy” and I do feel exactly the way you describe in your article. Sad to say, but: Symbian is a dead-end road. And 3.0 won't change that.

    I own an N97, and it get's crappier with each firmware update. Since the last one, *every single action* has to be confirmed twice. (Like: “Do you want to allow *insert-computer-name-here* via Bluetooth.” User clicks yes. Next step: “Do you want to allow *insert-computer-name-here* via Bluetooth.” User clicks again. Every single time. I'd love a third button: Yes/No/F**king yeah, I told you before, stop nagging me twice every time!).

    The OVI service is a disaster as of yet – I mean, the different parts work fine, but there is no masterplan; even gaming isn't integrated. OVI to me seems like one huge roof over a lot of very different isles.

    Anyways, it's sad because a couple of years ago, Nokia was a huge market-moving force. They used to invent, they used to rule the mobiel device biz, but Android has overtaken Symbian at lightspeed. There's a lot more to say, but like I wrote in the beginning of my comment: you precisely summed up my thoughts.

    So to make a long story short: thanks for your excellent work in the past, and I hope to read a lot of interesting Android articles in the future. (Especially since I, like you, decided to let Symbian go and become a “Google fanboy”. Just his once.)

  • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20100701self-declared-longtime-nokia-and-symbian-fanboy-gives-up-goes-android/ Symbianのグルと呼ばれた人気ブロガーがAndroid陣営へ鞍替え

    [...] Caddenが、Nokiaとその製品に完全に愛想を尽かして、これまでの彼のブログをやめる(Mobile [...]

  • http://www.thaidc.com/tech/symbian-guru-%e0%b9%80%e0%b8%a5%e0%b8%b4%e0%b8%81%e0%b9%83%e0%b8%8a%e0%b9%89-symbian-%e0%b9%80%e0%b8%9b%e0%b8%a5%e0%b8%b5%e0%b9%88%e0%b8%a2%e0%b8%99%e0%b9%84%e0%b8%9b%e0%b9% Symbian Guru เลิกใช้ Symbian เปลี่ยนไปใช้ Android | ThaiDC.com

    [...] – Symbian-Guru, [...]

  • http://www.thaidc.com/tech/symbian-guru-shuts-down-says-nokia-is-losing-hard.html Symbian-Guru shuts down, says Nokia is ‘losing hard’ | ThaiDC.com

    [...]  |  Symbian-Guru  | Email this | Comments ที่มา :: [...]

  • http://www.nokiamobiletalk.com/ Mobile Jorge

    Oh my god, I can't believe I just read this post Ricky/Rita, wow, I am truly surprised that both of you have come to this decision but I am not shocked at all, as you've expressed some of the same sentiments I've had for a long time already. This site was my main inspiration alongside Mark Guim's blog to become a mobile blogger (semi retired now) and it truly a sad day for the Symbian community at large. I wish you both well and good luck in your future mobile endeavors. It was a true pleasure to have interviewed both of you and I'm sure you'll transition over to the N1 with no problems and lots enthusiasm for that platform.

    The trend is up and running for us abandoning Nokia and moving on to greener pasture, what I can say, I myself have moved on to the Blackberry and the iPhone was well and its so so so true to blog about something that you simply have no passion anymore. I still remember the days when I would wake up and check your site, CJ's, Mark's, and a few others to catch up and see what's going, google things up and report on Nokia stuff but as of lately, I can't bring myself to do it any more as well.

    So perhaps now you'll have a lot more time to actually use your device of choice at the moment, the Nexus One, with your mobile background and I'm sure in no time you'll be the Android Guru.

    Rita, my best to in your new business, I'm sure you'll do a fine job in handling those pharms. :)

    Cheers to both you and as they the show must go on ah. peace.

  • http://nitishkumar.net/2010/07/02/are-late-releases-and-escalated-expectations-over-symbian3-meego-and-nokia-n8-n9-gonna-be-fatal-for-nokia/ Are late releases and escalated expectations over Symbian^3, Meego and Nokia N8-N9 gonna be fatal for Nokia? | Nitish Kumar's Blog

    [...] negative. We should say that besides the bashing from Edlar when we weren’t expecting this (?). Symbian-Guru.com Is Over … that really has came up as a big blow to many of us, who strongly wish to stand on the side [...]

  • http://www.adityasphones.wordpress.com adityasinghvi

    Is there anything else left to say….

    I've been saying this and writing articles on the same lines for quite sometime. I guess the giant has decided to sleep.

    http://adityasphones.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/o…
    http://adityasphones.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/h…

    These two post should explain for themselves

  • http://www.taskussa.fi/2010/07/02/bloggaajat-jattavat-symbianin/ taskussa.fi » Blog Archive » Bloggaajat jättävät Symbianin

    [...] Olipa yllätys. Pitkäaikainen Symbian-evankelista Ricky Cadden kertoi torstaina lopettavansa arvostetun Symbian-Guru-bloginsa. Ei mennyt kuin päivä, niin The Nokia [...]

  • n900

    I own an n900 amd i love it, i will not change it with nexus one or something else even if i would get them free!
    LINUX OPEN-SOURCE POWER!!!

  • mkatallb

    I can’t say I have read Sybian-Guru.com that much… and wouldn’t have done so in the future either. Anyways… I use an iPhone 3GS (iOS 4 now) and a Nokia E72. I mainly use the iPhone for RSS and browsing (+ some nice useful applications), everything else I leave to the Nokia. But maybe this exactly is the problem?!

    Personally I still have faith in Nokia, I believe in what they are doing with Symbian^4 –> and MeeGo combined with Qt… but let’s see! H2/2010 and H1/2011 will be very important for Nokias future… If they only “talk the talk”… well, you know the rest… :(

  • http://www.gamezmenu.com/blog/symbian-guru-shuts-down-says-nokia-is-losing-hard/ Symbian-Guru shuts down, says Nokia is ‘losing hard’ | Gamez Menu

    [...]  |  Symbian-Guru  | Email this | Comments Share and [...]

  • Nilux

    Hey, I think this is the best thing you have ever done to Nokia :-)
    Two years ago people said wake up Nokia -but nothing happened. Maybe this time?

  • http://thegadgetfreak.net Ajit

    Yes, I could not agree more.

    The E72 touted as the E series flagship also faces RAM issues

    http://www.thegadgetfreak.net/2010/06/why-is-e7…

    Now also the N8

    http://thenokiablog.com/2010/06/21/nokia-n8-256…

  • http://thegadgetfreak.net Ajit

    Yes, I could not agree more.

    The E72 touted as the E series flagship also faces RAM issues

    http://www.thegadgetfreak.net/2010/06/why-is-e7…

    Now also the N8

    http://thenokiablog.com/2010/06/21/nokia-n8-256…

    Its pathetic Nokia. Wake up. You are spoiling killing a very good and a pottential OS -> Symbian, with your own hands. (Mother killing her own children)

  • http://twitter.com/lightyoruichi Harinder Singh

    This, is a big loss for Nokia and Symbian. They should definitely wake up and focus now.

    Ricky, and Rita. We'll always be there for you <3

    Good luck for your future endeavors!

  • Rock solid

    The thing that Nokia is moving to openeness is pure bullshit and an utter lie. This is why:

    - Since N series were released it is more difficult to hack the phone and liberate via IMEI.
    - Nokia is as closed as always (Did you see anywhere Nokia specifications for NBU format?). They don’t care openess.
    - It is very difficult to get hardware information from Nokia centers. They don’t care openess.
    - I haven’t seen a single Symbian OS being released under a GPL or BSD license, so they don’t care openess. It is the same shit as always.
    - It is very difficult to develop applications for Symbian and you must sign non-disclosure agreements. They don’t care openess.
    - The hardware is very exclusive and makes it difficult to find replacements, except for eBay or such.
    - Nokia replacements are very expensive, and so is the workshop.
    - No one in hell is able to use efficiently the nokia forums.
    - And so on.

  • Rock solid

    Firefox has a lot of toolbar to be configured (status toolbar, etc), and the preferences menu is much more complete than the Chrome one. Also, you can go to about:config menu to tweak everything.

  • Rikki

    Just because someone at Nokia may be reading this post, I thought I’d just say a big “ME TOO”. I’ve had Nokias back to the 5110 in ’98, and loved every one. Except the last. Currently waiting for my contract on an N96 to run out, and then I’m off to Android.

    I’m very disappointed in Nokia. I feel I’ve put a lot of cache their way over the years, and feel a little let down somehow. Silly really, they’re only a company and things change, but it just seems a shame that they seem to have totally lost it!

    Great site! So, will we be seeing an android-guru site any time soon?.

  • Dga

    看了之后,放弃买诺记的想法了。。

  • Jpalo

    Good choice!

  • JayBee

    I am a bit amazed how long many Nokia users needed to realize that this company is on the wrong way. I mean not The Guru in particular, a lot of my friends stayed with Nokia and advocated it bravely regardless whatever Nokia did.

    Once there was a time where I thought I would never have a cell phone from another manufacturer than Nokia. I started with the 1011 (actually it was my father’s) and had a lot of Nokia phones during these years. But this time ended with the 6310i, long time before the smartphone area began. At that time Nokia made a big change. Before they had a small line of phones each year only, maybe 4 or 5 phones. The model number of each device was well known on the street. Also the devices were of high build quality, good materials, often metal and nice construction. But suddenly, I guess it was around 2005/2006, Nokia started to flood the market with devices. I would guess they brought out 50 new models per year. Nobody could remember or distinguish the model numbers anymore. The devices often differed only in very few specs, if not only in the case. The materials were reduced to one, cheap plastic. At that time I saw a SE P800 with its glorious high res touchscreen. For me the smartphone area started. Friends who stayed with Nokia laughed at the P800, called it a toy specially because of the touchscreen. They even laughed at the first iPhone and relegated to the sales numbers of Nokia.

    Later I stumbled over the Nokia N770, a web tablet. It looked amazing; I trusted in Nokia for another time and bought it for a quite a lot of money. It turned out to be slow and full of firmware errors, had way to less RAM and needed a restart constantly. But instead of improving the device Nokia brought out the successor, the N800, which was almost the same but an improved firmware. But that was not enough, even buyers of the N800 were barracked by Nokia, when they came out with the N810. Three times almost the same device in a few month, never firmware updates for one of them.

    After these experiences I have to admit that I see the comedown of Nokia with a little malicious joy. And there is no sign that Nokia will stop on its way to abysm. They mention strange operating systems nobody cares about and nobody remembers the names. Was it maemo, malmö, mimo, meego, whatever.

    Guru, I wish you good luck with the Nexus. I have the Desire and am happy with that. By the way, you might notice the same behaviour from friends still going with Nokia. They will not touch your Nexus, not even look at it. They will grimly ignore it. ;-)

  • Zamsak

    FYI Carrier locking in India is almost absent. Carriers usually do not tie up with cell phone manufacturers in India. Its not there in middle east either. Carrier locking in India usually happens in CDMA phones, which are now non-existent by Nokia. They had a fantastic opportunity to capture that market, but like idiots they wont. Companies like Samsung and LG are selling utter crap in the CDMA market and getting away with it, but Nokia decides to turn a blind eye towards the entire thing. People tend to opt for CDMA services are they are much cheaper, licensing is much cheaper too, unlike 3G, EV-DO licenses do not cost. India has spent over 13 billion dollars on 3G licenses!!! Carrier locking mostly happens in US in the GSM sector. Get your facts right!

  • realist

    well the reason companies go to india is that they break their backs to work for foreign companies.
    there are hundreds of millions of you people, yet you still rely on being someone elses call centre. you let people walk all over you for peanuts, you have for hundreds of years. noone is sucking your dicks, its just that the capitalist ideology is so far down your throat you think that you are the one who is dishing it out.

  • http://www.nokiaphones.net/symbian-guru-affair-against-nokia/ Symbian-Guru Affair Against Nokia

    [...] now get this- the guy who used to update the blog now decided to quit it. He’s no longer going to make any posts about the Nokian devices! What [...]

  • http://jardenberg.se/b/jardenberg-kommenterar-2-jul-2010/ jardenberg kommenterar – 2 Jul, 2010 | jardenberg unedited

    [...] Symbian-Guru.com Is Over [...]

  • Art

    And Spain

  • Rcp

    Not true, wrok in many other places in EUROPE, I use to use Nokia phones for this reason, but today I use a Nexus One with Google Navigation.

  • http://alt1040.com/2010/07/symbian-gurucom-deja-de-existir-su-editor-se-pasa-a-android Symbian-Guru.com deja de existir, su editor se pasa a Android | ALT1040

    [...] eso es exactamente lo que Cadden ha decidido hacer y los motivos no son caprichosos. El post escrito debería ser lectura obligada para cualquier [...]

  • Hardeep Singh

    I don’t know if Nokia even has a marketing team but please help me understand what kind of a company announces that its moving their flagship range to a different OS just one month before the release of their most important device which runs the old OS. If this isn’t shooting in your foot then what is?

  • anonymous

    Thanks a lot and I sincerely hope Nokia will come back with a bang, listen to its own employees for feedback (there is no dearth of talent) and I am sure you guys will be back again in one blog or the other for Nokia.

  • http://www.nokiaspace.net/os/symbian/symbian-guru-chiude-nokia-non-e-piu-allaltezza/ Symbian-Guru chiude, Nokia non è più all’altezza… | NokiaSpace – Nokia, Symbian, MeeGo and any more..

    [...] fondatore e i suoi collaboratori hanno scritto una lunga lettera aperta per spiegare la loro decisione, che non lascia spazio per i dubbi: la colpa è di [...]

  • mb

    Not sure I get that … My N900 is playing youtube vides just fine from the built-in browser.

    Actually, my biggest frustration with the N900 is that it AUTOMATICALLY starts playing the video, if I click a link that takes me to the youtube video. That is so annoying, that I had to install the “adflashblock-css” package to prevent that from happening …

  • http://www.medianama.com/2010/07/223-its-getting-crowded-at-the-lower-end-of-indias-handset-market/ It’s Getting Crowded At The Lower End Of India’s Handset Market – MediaNama

    [...] – the top end, and It is, perhaps, too late; don’t take my word for it – read this long ‘goodbye’ post from a former Nokia fanboy who is switching to Android – …. I’m finding it difficult to let go of my N95, but I’ve seen enough of the Android, [...]

  • Bleh

    Use the browser, it has flash support and the vids run fine especially in fullscreen mode.

  • http://www.latesttechnologytrends.com/2010/07/symbian-guru-shuts-down-says-nokia-is-losing-hard/ Symbian-Guru shuts down, says Nokia is ‘losing hard’ – Latest Technology Trends

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  • N900guest

    My N900 isn’t slow at all. It’s not supposed to be – maybe yours is broken? (Or you haven’t updated the firmware, or have installed broken devel apps?)

  • http://raymasky.blogspot.com Raymasky

    Its really sad to see you guys stop. This was the same reason that lead me to stop posting on my Nokia Review website http://raymasky.blogspot.com . Hopefully, with Meego in the pipeline Nokia still has some power left to fight back… but as of now..thats just one big speculative guess…

  • Aeonys

    works in all western Europe actually

  • Kendoji

    I agree completely. After buying an E72 earlier this year, to replace my much loved N82, I was utterly horrified by the poor implementation. The low RAM made the phone virtually unusable for me – I could barely load the BBC homepage in the browser without the phone crapping out.

    I’ve since moved to Android, an HTC Desire, and it’s the best decision I’ve ever made. I can’t believe I was loyal to Nokia the last few years, I’ve been missing out on so much! <3 <3 <3 Android <3 <3 <3

  • Dynamoo

    I’ve been a Nokia fan for ages, but my last Nokia phone was the E90 which I replaced with an Android handset. Communicator users are particularly hard done by from Nokia, they are the most expensive handsets they do and suffer from some of the worst support IMO. With more effort the E90 could have been brilliant, but it didn’t quite manage it.

    As for the N900.. well again as a Nokia fan I went out and bought the very first Maemo device, the Nokia 770. It was pretty good and it showed that the platform had promise.. but progress has been at a snails pace and the very first Maemo phone will also be the last! And honestly.. take the N900 and compare it side-by-side with something like the HTC Desire. The Desire is more impressive in every single respect apart from the lack of keyboard.

    Whether or not Nokia’s new Moblin platform will be a success is a darned good question. But frankly I think that Nokia should bite the bullet and build an Android phone. Samsung offers a wide choice of OSes and it does them no harm, perhaps Nokia should follow suit.

  • http://www.slashgear.com/nokias-anssi-vanjoki-is-obsessed-with-reclaiming-smartphone-top-spot-0292652/ Nokia’s Anssi Vanjoki is “obsessed” with reclaiming smartphone top spot – SlashGear

    [...] MeeGo are definitely the company’s way forward.  He also mentions the recent high-profile closure of Symbian-Guru, one of the biggest names in Nokia-dedicated blogs, saying that the company is “determined to [...]

  • Aeonys

    @Angry: Symbian lost. Nokia is behind the curve, the N8 is a ridiculous machine, the only cool thing it has (will have I should say) is its ability to be a USB master. Nexus One already does it.

    iPhone is the big guy now, Android is the open source contender. Unless Nokia jumps to Android they will fail lower than they are. Look at satisfaction rate and adoption rate.

  • Aeonys

    Go on Google buzz, follow Robert Scoble and his 500 rebuzz post about android vs iphone. That’ll give you motivation. :)

  • http://www.androideur.com/le-symbian-guru-n-a-pas-pu-resister-aux-charmes-d-android Le Symbian-Guru.com n’a pas pu résister aux charmes d’Android

    [...] dédié au Symbian, nokia et ses smartphones Symbian a écrit hier son dernier article, Symbian-guru.com is Over [...]

  • http://www.facebook.com/daniel.dur Daniel Dur

    Just one thought: how about android-guru.com?

  • Ashok Kumar

    symbian-guru is closing. Thats sad. But this does not mean Nokia is closing too. Watch out. Few more months and we’ll be back in business. With a BANG.

  • http://riprig.info/nokia%e2%80%99s-anssi-vanjoki-is-%e2%80%9cobsessed%e2%80%9d-with-reclaiming-smartphone-top-spot/ Nokia’s Anssi Vanjoki is “obsessed” with reclaiming smartphone top spot | Gadgets and More

    [...] MeeGo are definitely the company’s way forward.  He also mentions the recent high-profile closure of Symbian-Guru, one of the biggest names in Nokia-dedicated blogs, saying that the company is “determined to [...]

  • http://flawlessfitnessbook.com/blog FitJerks Fitness Blog

    Agreed, Nokia can't get their shit right. Perfect example was the E61… the perfect form factor for a smartphone and is built like a brick, but the OS is so slow its shameful.

    Good luck with Android. Though I gotta say, webOS is something you need to try… blows Android away.

  • http://www.kkmall.net/it/symbian-guru-shuts-down-says-nokia-is-losing-hard.html Symbian-Guru shuts down, says Nokia is ‘losing hard’ « KKmall.net

    [...]  |  Symbian-Guru  | Email this | Comments Source :: [...]

  • Gian-luca Cioletti

    What can I say, I’m very sorry to heard that ;-(
    Nevertheless I want to thank you for all the support you gave to us for all these years.
    Wish you all the best and luck (with Android)
    Take care and so long.

    Gian Luca Cioletti
    Forum Nokia EMEA

  • http://keithkurak.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/tears-for-the-guru-why-i-guess-ill-still-be-using-symbian-for-now/ Tears for the Guru/ Why I guess I’ll still be using Symbian (for now) | Special K

    [...] then a pair of the community’s most important bloggers announces that Nokia is “losing hard&#82…. Nokia’s Mobile Solutions chief even drops said blogger’s name on his “I’m [...]

  • http://twitter.com/an_aaron Aaron A.

    Agreed, on ALL the points. I personally use an E71 for its GPS, Wifi, HW Keyboard, 3G and killer battery life, it's a veritable swiss army of phones, but for everything else I have an iPod Touch 2G that I use for web browsing, remote viewing, email, music, videos, ebooks, gaming, etc.

    I would not go for an iPhone unless maybe it was maybe the 3GS, as the entire closed system annoys me. I have been eyeing several Android phones which are very well built devices with an excellent software ecosystem and large screens. I own a Tmobile G1, but that's hardly an example of how far android and their phones in general have come.

  • LT
  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/VOBOM4T3CPXF5IPR4R3VWE2EAQ Chucknorris

    Yeah I played with a Nokia Nuron, I have no idea what that runs, but it sucks balls. Nokia is in the sh*tter in my book. They gotta either adopt Android, or put something big and perfect out really fast…

    HTC is taking over the world…

  • http://www.arfeeds.net/2010/07/%d9%86%d9%88%d9%83%d9%8a%d8%a7-%d9%84%d8%a7-%d9%84%d9%84%d8%a7%d9%86%d8%af%d8%b1%d9%88%d9%8a%d8%af-%d9%88%d8%b3%d9%86%d8%b3%d8%aa%d9%85%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b3%d8%aa%d8 نوكيا : لا للاندرويد وسنستمر باستخدام السيمبيان | الخلاصات العربية

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  • bandora

    And just to let you know… “arabs” aren't poor and can afford whatever you want..or can't.. Not to mention that phones there are ALOT CHEAPER than the US.. so before you post an idiotic and very stupid and racist comment.. I would like to suggest to you to pull your head out of your ass and look around you and see that we're all the same…. dipshit..

  • http://didichanoch.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/nokia-underdog/ נוקיה כאנדרדוג? מחשבות על העתיד של חברת הסלולר הגדולה בעולם | נייד ובדיוני

    [...] שקרה השבוע, ושעליו תכננתי לכתוב מעבר לציוץ ששלחתי: סגירת האתר Symbian-Guru.com. לכאורה, זה לא סיפור כזה גדול. אז נסגר בלוג שעסק במוצרים [...]

  • urix

    Ovi maps? Nope. Here, in Russia, maps are updating rarely. And most required feature – traffic information – is absent.
    I use third-party navigation software with traffic and social networking features.

  • http://www.tuiter.com/symbian-guru-com-deja-de-existir-su-editor-se-pasa-a-android/ Symbian-Guru.com deja de existir, su editor se pasa a Android | Tuiter.com

    [...] eso es exactamente lo que Cadden ha decidido hacer y los motivos no son caprichosos. El post escrito debería ser lectura obligada para cualquier [...]

  • http://twitter.com/samwize Junda Ong

    This is so unfortunate. We are losing a great website for Symbian community.

    But THEY are to be blamed. Have fun with Android, or other platforms!

  • http://www.electronee.com/?p=1848 إلكتروني » أرشيف المدونة » نوكيا : لا للاندرويد وسنستمر باستخدام السيمبيان

    [...] في الاجهزة الاخرى خصوصا في الاندرويد قرر وقف موقعه وهاجم في مقال له نوكيا وبقاء دعمها لنظام [...]

  • http://kshkool321.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/%d9%86%d9%88%d9%83%d9%8a%d8%a7-%d9%84%d8%a7-%d9%84%d9%84%d8%a7%d9%86%d8%af%d8%b1%d9%88%d9%8a%d8%af-%d9%88%d8%b3%d9%86%d8%b3%d8%aa%d9%85%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8 نوكيا : لا للاندرويد وسنستمر باستخدام السيمبيان | مدونة كشكول

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  • http://www.atmcash.com Michelle

    Nokia is the king of all mobile phones. Its not well selling in US cuz its not available on contract, but that does not mean that Nokia does not sell.

  • http://www.android.cat/2010/07/02/un-famoso-fanboy-de-nokia-se-nos-pasa-a-android/ Móviles Android -Un famoso fanboy de Nokia se nos pasa a Android

    [...] para empezar una nueva vida como fanboy de Android.Si tenéis un rato, os recomiendo que leáis el artículo de despedida que ha escrito (en inglés) porque es francamente interesante. Incluyento un buen análisis de la situación de [...]

  • Scoobyberry

    I totally agree….. been a longtime Nokia user, I passed up on the N97, instead hanging on to the N95 & N82.
    Then when Apple came out the iPhone, I passed up on that too, hoping Nokia would bring out a “killer” phone….. The wait was too long, when the iphone 3gs came out, I waited a few months again, hoping for Nokia to bring out something……… Guess what… I am happy with the iPhone…..

  • http://conferencecallingforless.com/loan-modification-conference-call/ Conference Calling For Less | Loan Modification Conference Call

    [...] Symbian-Guru.com Is Over | Symbian-Guru.com [...]

  • http://www.ifanr.com/14156 诺基亚二号人物撰文澄清流言,宣布反击正式开始 | ifanr 爱范儿 ♂专注于拇指设备的小众讨论

    [...] 月 1 日,Symbian Guru 主力作者 Ricky 和 Rita 在网站上表示自己将不再更新 Symbian Guru,转向 Android [...]

  • http://teratechtown.com/2010/07/symbian-guru-shuts-down-says-nokia-is-losing-hard/ Symbian-Guru shuts down, says Nokia is ‘losing hard’ | TeraTechTown.com

    [...]  |  Symbian-Guru  | Email this | Comments Source Share var button = [...]

  • Michael

    I read the news from Engadget… (first time to be Symbian-Guru.com here), feel sad to hear that this great website is over. :(

    In fact, I am the one who uses Mac and loves Apple (& Steve Jobs), but I won’t buy an iPhone. Why? I am a student, so I don’t have much money to pay for the data plan and even the iPhone itself.

    For me, I should go for either Android-based phones or Symbian-based phones. (BlackBerry, Palm OS, WM are not my cups of tea / expensive for me) Android is undoubtedly the most competitive OS with iOS (iPhone, iPod touch, iPad). Android is very smooth, many applications are available for downloading… BUT I hate one thing: the Android is basically Google-based and Internet-orientated. As I’ve said, I don’t have data plan (though through Wi-Fi at home is OK), so Android may not be the most suitable choice for me. Worse still, I value my privacy, but Android-based phones can only be synchronised with the contacts on my Mac through the ‘cloud’ (Google). That means Android is designed without local sync in mind. Although there are some third party apps like Missing Sync but shouldn’t the local sync feature be the standard feature on every phone? A phone without local sync feature is just ridiculous in my opinion.

    I am having a Nokia 2700 classic but want to get a smartphone as I want to read PDF documents, .doc documents and stuff like that, so Symbian-based Nokia 5530 XpressMusic would be my best choice because the price of this phone alone (without plan, I use prepaid phone card) is acceptable to me and it can be sync’ed with my Mac through iSync, although there’s a design flaw since the phone can’t be hard reset since the ‘call’, ‘menu’, ‘end call’ buttons aren’t physical but part of the resistive touchscreen, which means only one touch point can be registered at each time you touch the screen. (the hard reset method for its brother Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is to press ‘call’ + ‘end call’ + ‘camera shutter’ + ‘power’)

    When it comes to Symbian, I share the same view about app stores with Ricky, that’s why I posted my idea on Symbian Ideas on 06/16/2010 04:20 PM BST:
    - Unify all the app stores (Nokia’s Ovi Store, Sony Ericsson’s PlayNow arena) as ONE Symbian Store
    (http://ideas.symbian.org/Idea/View?ideaid=8024)

    What’s more, I think adding English letters on the dialing pad is also important, that’s why I also posted an idea in view of this issue on Symbian Ideas:
    - Add English letters on the dialing pad of Symbian^1 and the upcoming Symbian platform versions
    (http://ideas.symbian.org/Idea/View?ideaid=8046)

    It seems that the Symbian Ideas website should be promoted a little bit more in order to help the development of Symbian platform.

    ====================

    The following may be a little bit off topic but for what it’s worth (about Nokia and its S40 OS):

    From the perspective of feature phones, I will say that the A100 & A200 OS of Sony Ericsson are really user-friendly, way better than Nokia S40.

    I’ve used Sony Ericsson K750i (Sony Ericsson A100 OS) for 5 years, and now using the Nokia 2700 classic (S40 5th Edition, FP1). I can say that Nokia S40 OS REALLY SUCKS. The poor user interface of S40 always misleads its users and its logic is really hard to understand.

    Let’s say we get an unknown call with telephone number. If the conversations ends, then the telephone number will appear in the call log, right? But even if I save this number into my phonebook and name it afterwards, the call log will still display the telephone number only but not the name I set for it, which doesn’t make sense at all.

    Apart from that, regardless of whether there’s a need for the scroll bar on the right side of the screen, the scroll bar is ALWAYS there, completely nonsense.

    In addition, the S40 user interface doesn’t include the shortcut key, which means that the users can’t multitask, can’t check the notifications like missed calls in an instant like the Sony Ericsson feature phones do. Well, maybe Nokia considers multitasking should only be done on smartphones with its S60 UI based on Symbian OS and Symbian platform (e.g. Symbian^1), and thus positioning the S40 OS as a monotask system. BUT the ‘Music Player’ and ‘Radio’ in S40 OS can run in the background but can only be stopped by pressing and holding the ‘end call’ button. Well, that can be problematic: imagine you are using Opera Mini and Music Player at the same time, but you want to end the Music Player while you are browsing the web with Opera Mini, what do you do? You can only just press and hold the ‘end call’ button to stop the Music Player, but you also stop the Opera Mini.

    Well, as a world-leading mobile phone manufacturer, its supports for Mac is nothing if not inadequate. For Windows-PC, the Nokia PC Suite and Ovi Suite can sync with a wide range of Nokia phones, from low-end to high-end. For Mac, Nokia offers iSync plug-ins for just mid-end to high-end. Hey, you know, sometimes, we need those low-end-phone iSync plug-ins because we may want to help ourselves, or more importantly, our family members to get (our) their phone(s) synchronised with our Mac.

    To really be competent for the world-leading mobile phone manufacturer, there’s obviously some room for improvement in the current work of Nokia.

  • True Indian

    1. We indians pay ready cash when we buy the phone. Not like you to tie up with some carrier for years.
    2. In recession we saw few americans who supposed to be upper middle class on the roads and in makeshift tents. Indian who comes out of poverty by hard work never return to streets.
    3. Our lifestyle is always depends on our earning not depends on credit cards.

    Look around and see how indians are living in US, they do better than the native and count how many indians are in your president's team.

  • True Indian

    We all thankful to the contribution you made to the community, But we are not sad as you are closing down…in fact happy to know that you too came out of nokia-symbion syndrome and you can contribute better way to better Mobile Devices with android OS.

    I personally owned around 11 Nokia handset since 2001 and among them 8 were nokia, my last nokia device was 5800. Currently I use a samsung android device I am happy with the performance and flexibility.

  • Go4Pheif5

    your last name is hell??

  • Shei0INge

    Hey, any parting words from Wampyre?

  • http://twitter.com/cosmic53 Michele Costabile

    I would add a comment fo Symbian: I never could read setup instructions for their SDK in full. Too long too complicated, too much effort. Compare that to getting started with android or with iPhone if you have a Mac.
    I also think that my next phone will be different, although I am satisfied with the networking abilities, size and battery life of my E71.

  • http://neverandforever.com/wp/ Jim

    Seems that Nokia want to win you back – http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/02/the-f…

  • Adam @ madebygeeks.com

    I hear the both of you. I'm in the same place and about to get a HTC Desire. Incidently i've got an N97 and it's useless too and have been blogging about this on my own site http://www.madebygeeks.com.

    Android here I come!

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    the E90 was the last Symbian-powered phone that 'wowed' me. When I first unboxed one, I was seriously speechless, just in awe.

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    there are no plans to launch an Android-specific site

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    the camera on the N1 is the only thing I'm not really excited about. Unfortunately, I wanted a GSM Snapdragon-based Android, and there just aren't many options like that with decent cameras just yet.

  • http://zerolinesofcode.wordpress.com Zerolinesofcode Blog

    Oh no.

  • AboutTime

    Nokia higher management needs to decide who is really to take the axe for there constant downfall for the past few years. Making so many Nokia workers redundant has not improved the company – simply cutting costs is a trivial error. I personally feel the CEO needs to leave, he’s dragged down the company far enough from the big build-up from the previous CEO. That would be the first step in the right direction.

  • Shafraz

    Why does it have to be Nokia all the time? I use a Samsung i8910 HD and i’m hell pleased with it. Screw the original firmwares. The custom firmware gives me a phone better than an iphone or better than any android device! So I’m with Symbian still, only coz of Samsung i8910 HD!

  • http://www.mynokiaworld.com/2010/07/bloggers-ditch-symbian-nokia-fights-back/ Bloggers Ditch Symbian & Nokia Fights back

    [...] Nokia community was shocked this week with the announcement that Symbian-Guru is shutting shop and The Nokia Guide is no longer covering Symbian devices. Symbian Guru’s been one of the [...]

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  • Stylinred

    hmm interesting… the N97 has been out for ages now and your simply voicing your hate over the n97s symbian right before the release of the N8 and you refuse to even look at the N8… I would have taken to heart your rants if it was indicated that you came to this decision after hours of hands on experience with the Nokia N8… but since that's not true I have to wonder about the timing of this… and the subject matter which doesn't even concern the N8… interesting…

  • http://suckie.st/ drVirtanen

    There are over 200 reasons *in the past*, past is gone… how many reasons will there be in one year?

  • nrajesh

    I can understand what you've wrote here. I've been pretty much a Nokia fanboy since last 5-6 years & tried some of their “high ends” (luckily not N97) before finally giving Maemo a go. I must say N900 gives you absolute freedom to do whatever you want!

    But sooner than later I realized I was not really a target audience for this great piece of hardware. Being a novice in linux I was a non-participant in the development of apps – the FUN part of this phone. I also realized that no flash 10.1 + no meego translated to a very sad goodbye!

    All this coupled with my lust for trying out apps, which our distant cousins @ apple & android are doing with open conceit, drove me to Android – an affordable choice than the iPhone (I'd say) & away from the world of Nokia. Probably the vicious cycle that you mention is already setting (sigh)! I don't believe I'll go back to Nokia, unless they take up Android or (as mentioned by the co-author of this thread) give us 2-3 successful flagships.

    Just been with Android for 2 days & I just realize what I've been missing so long. Forget their market for a moment (dare I say that's hard), their devices are so top-notch, suave & so very capable! Hope to see Froyo (& flash 10.1) soon :)

    Despite all my rants I'd hope that Nokia does well – I am not saying it for Nokia's sake, but for the good of thousands of its workers & millions of its end users!

    Btw, good luck to the Ricky & Dotsisx and thanks for keeping us entertained :)

  • http://www.daneshzaki.com/ Danesh

    India is one of the fastest growing markets with several operators. There are no lock-n or subsidized plans here unlike the US, where most of them are just rip off the consumers. India is one of the smarter places for consumers to be; don't like the device, change it, don't like the operator – change it. No hassle, no contract cancellation fees, nothing. You need to live in India to understand it. And BTW, in the last year Samsung and HTC along with Indian manufacturers have slowly been eating into Nokia's share.

  • http://www.facebook.com/m0shef Shayesta Zaman Miah

    Hey I know how you feel and why the change from Symbian to Android. I completely ditched Symbian for Android. Nokia needs to focus on the OS more than there hardware. If Nokia used Windows OS or Android OS no doubt there phones will be more stable and more powerful. I got a feeling N8 and N9 are going to be Nokia's last Symbian OS. I dont see Symbian 3 going to be a hit. Android is far superior and much more stable :D

    I use to have so many Nokia phones and my latest phone was the Nokia X6 and now I have HTC HD Mini and I just recently got the HTC Legend and my Android just shits on Nokia Symbian OS lol

  • edbanger

    The first Nokia device I used was my awesome, and still the best dumb-phone to date, the 3310, since then I’ve owned a Sagem, Siemens, Alcatel dumbphones. My first semi-smartphone was the 7610 with it’s great design. However, when I discovered that it didn’t even had stereo-sound through the headset. So that’s when I switched to Sony-Ericsson and the W950, being a Symbian UIQ3 device. At first, this was a great device, but it was missing Wifi, so i quickly switched to the at first awesome P1i. However, the lack of decent apps for symbian UIQ3 drove me to the SE Xperia X1, in my eyes still the smartphone with the prettiest design to date. Again, at the start this was a great device! All the apps that were available for Windows Mobile really wowed me, but that’s also the dark side of the platform: as soon as you start installing things the OS goes down the drain. Constant crashes, terrible slowdowns (Making sending a one-sentence text message a 2-minute task) drove me to XDA-developpers for tweaked roms to get better performance, but hey, you can’t keep flashing your phone every two weeks.
    So then I tested the HTC Hero with all it’s Androidy goodness. Again: Great at first thanks to the great google integration and the vast amount of apps, but again, crippled by slow hardware, making slowdowns inevitable.

    So, next up was the Motorola Milestone (Missed the hardware keyboard to much on the Hero), but wile i was waiting for a reasonably priced secondhand device (Non-carrier supported country here) I accidently saw a video of the N900 multitasking. An hour later I had already ordered one. (Not a very rational move, but that video wowed me so much I had to have it.)

    Well, this device is simply the epitome of a smartphone for me. It has completely replaced the netbook i used to carry around to have full Internet access. I haven’t experienced any slowdowns as of yet, it has the best IM-integration of any device on the market. The only thing it now needs is a broader userbase and a filled appstore. (But hey, I’m dual-booting Android Froyo on the device for that :)).

    If Nokia manage to polish some of the rough edges the platform still has, and make it a little more suitable for end-users, they just might have a worthy flagship-phone again. (They have one now with the N900, but refuse to market it.)

    And as a big Apple fan, running OSX on all the PC’s i own, and owning an Ipod classic, I simply can’t manage to get the least bit excited about the Iphone, with it’s closed platform and 999 Fart-apps.

  • http://dotsisxblog.com/2010/07/an-era-ends-an-era-starts/ An Era Ends, An Era Starts « The Dotsisx Blog

    [...] both hands and hit publish on an article that both him and I had been postponing for a few months: Symbian-Guru is Over. The decision to stop nurturing a website that he created and made prosper, and I joined and helped [...]

  • Your admirer

    Oh, Rita is ever so beautiful. This might be the last time I will see your pic…

  • Xhodivala

    Ricky,

    You should think about opening Android Guru, or maybe just Mobile Guru. There are a whole lot of people who out there who are thinking of moving from S60 to Android. It would be really good to have a guide who is on the same journey, coming from the same background, and who we can trust to give us the straight truth without too much fanboy exageration.

    I know I'd read it.

  • http://nokialove.com/symbian-guru-com-is-game-over/ Symbian-Guru.com Is “Game Over” :( « Nokia Love …

    [...] agree with most of the things Ricky writes on hes “fare well” post to Symbian-Guru.com, Nokia is in big trouble in north America and has almost zero [...]

  • http://www.thoughtsfromhell.net Michael Hell

    yes my last name is indeed hell :)

  • krisq

    Thanks and good luck Ricky!

  • Jeromeo

    Nokia’s global foothold actually means Nokia’s exploitation of 3rd world nations. Countries like India & China, continents like Africa will only settle for 256 color T9 keypad phones (like the ones Nokia is repackaging, rebranding, and not bothering upgrading since the year 2002) for a little while longer. Those places are wising up; they are catching on to the trends of the US, EU, and SouthEast Asia. The iPhone can do about half of what a N900 can do spec wise, but it can do that half quicker, easier, more responsively, & more reliably. The sales of the iPhone far surpass anything Nokia is doing in the high end. Nokia’s entire Nseries (like 11 different phone models) sells less than iApple’s one device does each quarter. The slow, calm, non-aggressive, complacent, & timid Finnish culture has let the aggressive, competitive North American culture assert its dominance with Android, iOS, webOS, & BlackberryOS. It took Nokia 6 months to get a software update to allow the forward facing camera to even work on the N900. Apple’s horribly named ‘FaceTime’ will make any Nokia videocall look like a total joke when Nokia practically pioneered videocalls. By the time devices running MeeGo actually make it to market far less people will actually care. And those who do care will demand compatibility/interoperability between MeeGo & Android, iOS, and RIMM devices (essentially stealing away market share from Nokia’s already slipping market share). People will want that new Meego TV/Navigation System/etc. to connect to more than just a MeeGo phone. They will want that MeeGo operating system (which they’ve never heard of) to be able to connect to their iPhone, Blackberry, Android, etc (which they already have). By the time the N8 is actually released in December the iPhone 4 will have already sold tens of millions of units. I mean congrats to Nokia for being the first in the world to make the first device that used Adobe Flash & the first device to truly use all global 3G frequencies. But those congrats should have come back in 2005. It’s just too late in the modern age running at the speed of the internet. If you think lines (or queues) in the USA are irrelevant globally then you must be forgetting that the US is the financial capital of the world, the world’s largest economy, invented the internet, dominates global social networking, and I could go on for pages. North America sets many trends that are worth paying ‘some’ attention to.
    If you still think the richest nation in the world should be ignored, then ignore it. Instead look up the trends of iPhone adoption in South Korea-home to Samsung and LG. Look up iPhone dominance in Japan’s smartphone market-the world’s first 3G adopter and arguably world’s most advanced cell phone market.
    You’ll be shocked.
    If you think the N95 has sold more than the iPhone, you are out of touch with reality. Don’t believe me? Check this link for a dose of it:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/IPhone_sales_per_quarter_simple.svg

    Also check this comparison of iPhone sales vs. the entire Nseries range:
    http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/10/EZ_NKAPL20610.gif

  • and-o-roid

    let me be the first to welcome you to an Android way of life, where beauty, simplicity and down right fun is at the heart of it all.
    Like you I have used Nokia for a while now, every phone I have ever owned was a Nokia then N97 came along….. now use HTC Desire the best move I have ever made where phones are concerned.
    Wonder why you chose the N1 tho?

  • http://www.symbianfrance.com/ Bassim FILALI

    good luck Rita & Ricky!

  • Keksz

    If there will be a qwerty android maybe I would like to leave nokia too

    But until that my E71 is perfect ;)

  • Rodalovi

    Wow, you just nail it i!!!!
    No more Nokia for me (n95,n97,n900) i want my monet back!!!

  • Junaid

    You have brilliantly summed up what also used to be my favorite OS and mobile brand. I have used several Symbian smartphones all of them from Nokia and I feel Samsung’s Omnia HD i8910 is more of a Symbian flagship than N97 can ever be. N96 was what did it for me and I left like several others who wanted to stay loyal but have been disillusioned by Nokia and Symbian.

    I own an iPhone and an Android device and I can assuredly tell you the simplicity of these platforms could teach a lesson or two to Nokia and Symbian.

  • Hardeep Singh

    try installing something on the memory card and then tell us.

  • Pratish

    You cannot fathom how hard it is to support Nokia while living in the United States..

  • Stylinred

    i understand what your saying (im in Canada) but i think we enjoy Nokia a bit more up here than down there… even though we don't have our own Nokia Store like you guys do -_-

  • http://www.n97fanatics.com Mike Macias

    I'm a little late to comment on the “Symbian-Guru is over” article, but here we go…

    Thanks both of you for everything you've done for the Nokia community. I problem would have never started blogging if it wasnt for both of you and this site. Ricky – I feel your frustration man. I'm giving Nokia one more chance to bring a device that I am extremely happy with. I haven't felt that way since the N82, which was the first new Nokia device I bought. I tried to like the N97 but it just didn't work out. I still use the N97 occasional but it's sad how unreliable this $500 phone is. And Rita – I'm glad you're still blogging about tech stuff. I'll be following those sites even more closely now. Something tells me you might give Symbian one more chance, and maybe even Meego. I have a feeling you'll be a Nokia user for a little while longer. Hope so.

    Thanks again for all the tutorials, reviews, tips, etc. Talk to you guys later!

  • http://symbianworld.org/5112-nokia-the-fightback-starts-now%e2%80%94do-you-believe/ Nokia: “The fightback starts now”—do you believe? | SymbianWorld – your S60 and Symbian resource for News, Applications and more

    [...] be found on why Ricky Cadden, let’s say, his waiting a big change from Nokia, but his Symbian site is already over(temporarily). Although it’s a great loss in this society, we should be [...]

  • dariuscheung

    Sad to see you go! (and the android side of us welcomes you with arms wide open)

    am a fan of the blog, thanks for the insights over the years!

    Cheers,
    Darius, WaveSecure Team

  • Dynamite09

    Charlie..you fool..
    All the Nokia high end phones are released in India with the International release date. Do you think the people at Nokia are fools to release their high priced products in a country where people can’t afford it.??
    Just use your dumb brain and survey the marketing and sales info. before giving such comments.
    And phones are sold in India without any tie up with a carrier, so people pay in full not in installments.

  • War_ofthe_phones

    HAVE FAITH!!! I can tell you for a fact we’ll be making our presence known in North America. Nokia has heard alot of the feedback comming from users, and although the wheel’s have been slow to turn, they are turning i assure you. We have great phones in the pipeline to come, and on the back end, EVERYTHING is getting re-shaped to kick butt in NorthAmerica….stay tuned!

  • Ruthless_don

    nope, the reason companies go to india is that you guys are over… the sooner you look around and realise it the better. but who cares anyway. go back to watching american idol man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Simon-Johnson/100000427222265 Simon Johnson

    Only the death of an apparently (and reading its final thoughts, obviously) passionate website drew me here, and I wish I'd found it sooner, you could have helped me with my Symbian woes. I'm no Nokia buff, I work in a shop that sells phones and I've always hated Nokia handsets, they've always seemed slow, hiding features away in menus you can't find and then then N95 hit the scene. Apple's iPhone was only just announced and here in the UK the N95 became a massive hit – and I'll never understand why because it was slow, and clunky, with an awful interface, unusable media playback functions, in fact, that's not an N95 issue, that's a Nokia problem across the board.

    I'm a Sony Ericsson guy, and just like so many people who got drawn in by that N95's awesome 5MP camera, I couldn't resist the Satio. It's got a brilliant little photo snapper on the back, but the OS? Worst Sony Ericsson phone ever. I hate my phone. I've hated it for at least six months, and it's for all the same reasons as Nokia's failings.

    I don't want to come across as the guy putting the nail in the coffin, but architecturally, Symbian is a broken OS. Apple came to the phone scene with a fresh spin, and sure, they didn't get it perfect, but they listened and they grew. Now they have the biggest phone on the market and a brand that has reinvigorated an entire corporation because of the simple idea that people like to customise their phones and the cheaper they can do that, the better.

    I seriously don't see Nokia changing, they lead the charge that is the mobile phone industry. They will forever be known as the torch bearers who ushered a phone into every pocket with the 3310 and realistically, unless big changes come along (and at this stage, it's sink or swim) then its game over.

    For Symbian, things are probably worse. Their task is to completely re-write not only their business model, but their entire library of developments. They have to reboot everything simultaneously, they have to say sorry and drop legacy support for all handsets because they're facing the two most successful mobile OS's in history – Adroid and iOS give modern people exactly what they want.

    And before Symbian can concoct this magical wonder OS that does everything and more, they have to somehow survive the biggest operating system vendor in existence brining its years of expertise to the playing field. Three years ago, even before the iPhone was that big Microsoft recognised it was fighting a futile battle, and its rebooting its mobile OS.

    Maybe ending this blog before the end of your beloved companies was the smartest choice. Me? Well, I expect before long it won't be the hardware manufacturers or the networks that have a say in what OS you're lumped with. Pretty soon the user will be able to choose which OS suits them, because, after all, as technology improves people are often just faced with more choice and from the current perspective, over Android or iOs (or the purported features of Windows Phone 7), who'd choose Symbian?

  • http://twitter.com/9970000 Giovanni Powell

    what did you buy instead.. i sorta feel the same way about the nexus one, but it'll most likely be upgradeable to android 3.0

  • adliayob

    As an evangelist, I also left Nokia in 2005 and the Nokia 3230 was my last and final device. But I never left Symbian (both S60 and UIQ) and I'm still using Samsung i8910 HD and It's still got the 'wow factor' till now. Starting DEC 2005, I migrated to Panasonic X800, then SE W960i, Samsung i450, G810, i8510 and i8910 HD. For me, Nokia made terrible hardware compare to Samsung & Panasonic. Omnia HD still the best device to play with and equipped with the BEST hardware (CPU/Ram/GPU/Camera) to run the 'ancient' S60-5th smoothly.

    However, I'm not blaming you guys to switch to Android because life is too short to play (with other OSes) and as an experienced Ubuntu user, I support Linux and it's development.

    I started my own 'symbian' blog in 2008 (http://www.symbianku.com) in Malay Language just to create an awareness of the 'existence' of an OS called SYMBIAN. In my country (Malaysia) just like any other APAC countries, people didn't care about the 'OS' of any phones that they are using and simply buying 'Nokia phones' because of NOKIA. This is a very bad move by Symbian not to expose their 'identity' (or brand) to the end user. In my country – Symbian is Alien! Nobody knows about Symbian! And even they always ask me to teach them 'how to install Nokia system to a Samsung phone?' :)

    Symbian must do something about this (maybe a simple logo upon startup) or put a simple tutorial (in a video format in every Symbian device) just to 'present' the word 'Symbian' to normal end user.

    Well, good luck to both of you. And thank you for the effort of teaching us about Symbian.

  • Nik

    Its sad to see you leave, but I do admit that Nokia is loosing, reather lost the battle already.. I am a Symbian fan myself.. But I have already started hating it.. A LOT depends on Meego, For me and even for Nokia!

  • http://dhrac.posterous.com/ dhrac

    man, i´m so with you! hope to see you on “the other side” soon ^^

  • http://dhrac.posterous.com/ dhrac

    man i´m so with you. hope to see you on some “other site” soon. ^^

  • bluelotus

    I'm stuck with the E75, I'm crossing my fingers to get a good qwerty android from google with the 3.0 release, I sold my Nexus One to get the AT&T version but didn't because all touch phones aren't reliable for my needs.

    An advantage of the Nexus is that it gets the updates as they are released and I want that but with a qwerty phone, if there's physical option buttons in front plus call keys it would be the perfect phone IMO.

  • http://www.360east.com/?p=1236 Noka X6 Comes with Music: All you can eat, but with a wooden spoon – 360east | design, media, technology

    [...] that Symbian has problems. I mean when someone like Ricky Cadden, the self proclaimed symbian guru turns his back on the platform and goes Android, then there’s no doubt that Nokia’s position has been greatly [...]

  • http://www.thefinance.co.in/2010/07/03/it%e2%80%99s-getting-crowded-at-the-lower-end-of-india%e2%80%99s-handset-market/11267786/index.html It’s Getting Crowded At The Lower End Of India’s Handset Market | The Finance | Online Share Trading | Share Trading India | Stock Market India

    [...] – the top end, and It is, perhaps, too late; don’t take my word for it – read this long ‘goodbye’ post from a former Nokia fanboy who is switching to Android – …. I’m finding it difficult to let go of my N95, but I’ve seen enough of the Android, [...]

  • http://arjw.wordpress.com/2010/07/03/reflections-of-my-friends/ Reflections of My Friends | Blog.AntoineRJWright

    [...] the Uplinq Conference this past week, a friend of mine – Ricky Cadden – announced that he would be shutting down his popular Symbian Guru website. There’s almost no reason for me to add to the chatter that has happened around the web about [...]

  • http://nokiaweblog.com kris

    I hear you, Ricky. It’s been couple of years and nothing’s decent has come out from Nokia. The Tube? Er………

  • Zeid Nasser

    !
    Nokia need to read your post ……
    Maybe you’re giving up to fast :)

  • Facebook User

    My first experience with Symbian was at Nokia's flagship store in Manhattan, just two blocks from the Fifth Avenue Apple Store. I had read reviews of the E71 online, and like the reviewer, went to the store to try it out. It was love at first sight.

    A year later, the boutique has disappeared, and so has my interest in Symbian and Nokia. Just months after purchasing my E71, the E72 took the spotlight, without bringing anything significant to the table. And now the E72 costs less than I paid for my E71 (and I got a sale price), as if Nokia wants to get rid of that as well.

    Let it be known that as soon as my family consolidates our cell phone service, most likely to Sprint, I'll be pursuing a Blackbbery with great entusiasm. Yes, BLackBerry OS may be behind the times, but it's far more progressive than the Nokia / Symbian combination, both in terms of hardware and software. I can't wait to deal with a device that's actively marketed in the US, which recieves semi-regular firmware updates, and which isn't out-shadowed by the next sub-par “flagship” months later.

  • Kendoji

    You sound like most of us Symbian fans probably sounded like a year or two ago, at least I know that's the kind of thing I used to say. I used to rant about how stupid these large touchscreen phones were, while feverishly clutching my Nokia E and N series.

    Then I woke up. And tried Android. And realised what a fool I'd been. Android is better in every way, even for business, as my HTC Desire has the first proper Exchange mail implementation I've ever had (Touchdown), and well, it's a completely different experience.

    If you still have faith in Symbian, then fair enough, but I challenge you to spend a few days with a good Android phone and then go back to Symbian and still defend it.

  • Plunger182

    Well, my esteemed friend, if you’re talking about openness, let me say Android openness is not what it looks like.

    You’d better read “Brave New World” by Aldous Huxley to understand how Google works, and soon you’ll see their openness is not people’s idea of openness.

    I’m not an iPhone fan, neither a Symbian nor a WM fan, but it’s time people lead themselves to think about the “Don’t Be Evil” motto. It’s really painful to see people trust in such a company while it could be considered a Modern… well… Goostapo, and I’m not kidding.

    Soon you’ll see, Freedom resistants and bewildered belligerants are on their way to reveal the truth. And Android is something like Mein Kampf, but few know it today ;)

    So let’s hope your choice has been carefully thought-out, cos’ you’re praising the biggest evil of ‘em all. And even the Orwellian iOS mean less harm, believe my very words :)

  • Hans

    Get a N900.
    Idiot.

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    I had the N900 and hated it. The community is a complete mess and the lack of portrait input is a dealbreaker for me

  • zo6

    what idiot posts how well the iphone is doing compared to nokia, amongst all these comments by former nokia users and fans who have abandoned nokia and now own an iphone or one with the android os, in regards to a nokia fan site being shut down?

    captain obvious to the rescue!!

  • Jhin

    motorola droid (milestone depending on region) – android device WITH qwerty

  • zo6

    i was hoping to see a successor to n-series internet tablets but after seeing that they came out with the booklet last fall i said forget it.
    http://www.nokiausa.com/find-products/mini-laptops/nokia-booklet-3g

    its like they don’t even know the purpose of some of the stuff they make and the stuff they think they do know the purpose for, it can’t do it.

    a bigger internet tablet would have been better. why make a netbook?

  • Rough-Diamond

    I myself was driven from nokia and symbian by the N97(after 15 years of loyal custom), which I have had replaced and repaired no less than seven times by nokia without them even batting an eyelid. I was even creating themes for the platform, but realy I could not stand the agony any longer and made the jump two months ago by perchasing a HTC Desire, I havn’t looked back since and absolutely adore my Android device and my phone is now glued to my hands(were it should be), when I was becoming ashamed to even get my N97 out of my pocket to answer a call.

    I wish you both the very best of luck for the future and maybe see you on the flip side….. *smiles*

  • Nokia_insider

    I’m afraid Nokia knew of the problems in the N97 before launch – they just chose to ignore them because the launch date had already slipped so much. Symbian is a pile of crap OS, its basically crippled, unfortunately the sheer arrogance of the symbian guys in Nokia means they are doomed.
    Nokia should have said enough and went for Maemo unfortunately Symbian management people have infected Nokia and so we are seeing a brutal war within Nokia. I just wish symbian would roll over and die like a good dinosaur..

  • http://www.nokiatech.co.cc/ Rohith

    Hi, am felin very sad to read this post……. please come back… we need u…. u noe, even i have the same feeling for nokia…. since my 5th standard am using a symbian nokia mobile… i have utilised and seen each and every corner of symbian os… currently am using nokia 5800…. at start it was called iphone killer, but now no 1 dares 2 call :P its 1 n half yrs am using dis phone…. am doing things which actually nokia designers and os developers shud b doing… am goin 2 tell u d past present n future…..
    ——nokia 5800 [ppl called it iphone killer and millions of units were sold]
    ——nokia n97 n mini [just 4 keyboard n other few little changes it was a hit, which it shud not b :P]
    —— after iphone 3gs, android htc, people say symbian is slow.. bad UI…. no app support and r now shifting jus like u and me…. :)
    ——nokia N8 [going to sell jus the same way like nokia 5800 ]
    ——nokia N9 or N8-1 [goin to sell the same way like nokia n97]
    ——people will call it iphone 4os killer :P and again people from android and ios will shift back here…
    —–then apple will release ios 5 :P :P and again the same thing will happen … wa happened with nokia 5800 nd n97 :P
    —– then nokia will reduce the price of its nokia n8 and n9 the same way they did with nokia 5800 and nokia n97 few months back….
    then nokia will shift to some other os… say meego…. as usual it will go flop…. !!! if nokia appoints me as Ui designer or atleast take ideas from me …. they take back all the audience attention and rule like b4… :) the nokia's ui designer and os developer r 4 years back iphone os developers… i hate iphone neyway… i still luv symbian for its power over other os…. symbian 5th edition is waste untill unless users customize it with 3rd party app, themes and even firmware….. :)
    just wait n see wat nokia does and the people … they r goin to behave the same way i had predicted aboce.. :P :)
    neyways i have no idea whether u ll b reading this comment here between hundreds of comments… but i just wanted to clear of my mind…. :)
    thanks :)

  • http://www.nokiatech.co.cc/ Rohith

    Hi, am felin very sad to read this post……. please come back… we need u…. u noe, even i have the same feeling for nokia…. since my 5th standard am using a symbian nokia mobile… i have utilised and seen each and every corner of symbian os… currently am using nokia 5800…. at start it was called iphone killer, but now no 1 dares 2 call :P its 1 n half yrs am using dis phone…. am doing things which actually nokia designers and os developers shud b doing… am goin 2 tell u d past present n future…..
    ——nokia 5800 [ppl called it iphone killer and millions of units were sold]
    ——nokia n97 n mini [just 4 keyboard n other few little changes it was a hit, which it shud not b :P]
    —— after iphone 3gs, android htc, people say symbian is slow.. bad UI…. no app support and r now shifting jus like u and me…. :)
    ——nokia N8 [going to sell jus the same way like nokia 5800 ]
    ——nokia N9 or N8-1 [goin to sell the same way like nokia n97]
    ——people will call it iphone 4os killer :P and again people from android and ios will shift back here…
    —–then apple will release ios 5 :P :P and again the same thing will happen … wa happened with nokia 5800 nd n97 :P
    —– then nokia will reduce the price of its nokia n8 and n9 the same way they did with nokia 5800 and nokia n97 few months back….
    then nokia will shift to some other os… say meego…. as usual it will go flop…. !!! if nokia appoints me as Ui designer or atleast take ideas from me …. they take back all the audience attention and rule like b4… :) the nokia's ui designer and os developer r 4 years back iphone os developers… i hate iphone neyway… i still luv symbian for its power over other os…. symbian 5th edition is waste untill unless users customize it with 3rd party app, themes and even firmware….. :)
    just wait n see wat nokia does and the people … they r goin to behave the same way i had predicted aboce.. :P :)
    neyways i have no idea whether u ll b reading this comment here between hundreds of comments… but i just wanted to clear of my mind…. :) i started a website recently http://www.nokiatech.co.cc there ill try my best to keep symbian os alive for years even if nokia drops it…..
    thanks :)

  • http://michaelwenzl.de/sinkendes-schiff/ Sinkendes Schiff? | Freischwebende Aufmerksamkeit

    [...] so funktionierte wie ich es wollte. Um zumindest ein wenig auf dem Laufenden zu bleiben, las ich Symbian-Guru.com von Ricky Cadden. Der hat anscheinend jetzt scheinbar die Faxen dicke und stellt sein Blog ein. [...]

  • Tom

    Installing on the memory card works like a charm. Or are you still using 2.1?

  • http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2010/07/mobile-developer-economics-2010-the-migration-of-developer-mindshare/ VisionMobile :: blog :: Mobile Developer Economics 2010: The migration of developer mindshare

    [...] point out the exodus of some influential developers from the Symbian camp, as is the case with the closing of Symbian-Guru.com, one of the leading community sites related to the platform, whose founder moved to adopt [...]

  • http://www.nokiatech.co.cc/ Rohith

    Hi, am felin very sad to read this post……. please come back… we need u…. u noe, even i have the same feeling for nokia…. since my 5th standard am using a symbian nokia mobile… i have utilised and seen each and every corner of symbian os… currently am using nokia 5800…. at start it was called iphone killer, but now no 1 dares 2 call :P its 1 n half yrs am using dis phone…. am doing things which actually nokia designers and os developers shud b doing… am goin 2 tell u d past present n future…..
    ——nokia 5800 [ppl called it iphone killer and millions of units were sold]
    ——nokia n97 n mini [just 4 keyboard n other few little changes it was a hit, which it shud not b :P]
    —— after iphone 3gs, android htc, people say symbian is slow.. bad UI…. no app support and r now shifting jus like u and me…. :)
    ——nokia N8 [going to sell jus the same way like nokia 5800 ]
    ——nokia N9 or N8-1 [goin to sell the same way like nokia n97]
    ——people will call it iphone 4os killer :P and again people from android and ios will shift back here…
    —–then apple will release ios 5 :P :P and again the same thing will happen … wa happened with nokia 5800 nd n97 :P
    —– then nokia will reduce the price of its nokia n8 and n9 the same way they did with nokia 5800 and nokia n97 few months back….
    then nokia will shift to some other os… say meego…. as usual it will go flop…. !!! if nokia appoints me as Ui designer or atleast take ideas from me …. they take back all the audience attention and rule like b4… :) the nokia's ui designer and os developer r 4 years back iphone os developers… i hate iphone neyway… i still luv symbian for its power over other os…. symbian 5th edition is waste untill unless users customize it with 3rd party app, themes and even firmware….. :)
    just wait n see wat nokia does and the people … they r goin to behave the same way i had predicted aboce.. :P :)
    neyways i have no idea whether u ll b reading this comment here between hundreds of comments… but i just wanted to clear of my mind…. :)
    thanks :)

  • http://twitter.com/baamenabar Agustin Amenabar

    Yeah, but to the regular user Chrome is a relief, fast and just works. That is something Nokia was good at.
    I see many comments about the N900 but, isn't is a bit too expensive for what it is?

  • http://tecnoblog.net/29938/bia-kunze-symbian-esta-morrendo-nokia-se-pronuncia/ O Symbian está morrendo, Parte II: A Nokia se pronuncia | Especial

    [...] da finlandesa. Mas nunca mais se falou no assunto.Igualmente decepcionado com a Nokia, foi a vez do Symbian-Guru anunciar seu fim, para espanto geral da comunidade.A Nokia se manifestaFoi preciso que um executivo graúdo da [...]

  • http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/07/05/samsung-dethrones-nokia-in-featurephone-sales-in-western-europe/ Samsung dethrones Nokia in featurephone sales (in Western Europe) » Unwired View

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  • http://www.facebook.com/craigilynn Craig Lynn

    You guys could easily be writing about me, I have owned most Nokia N-Series phones and most of their range since 1998. This abruptly stopped after I bought a Nokia N97 SIM free on launch day. I now own a HTC Desire (ie a Nexus One) and can't believe the difference. Nokia have to take note of this and see how a phone should behave for it's user

  • VIPUL JAIN

    Thank God, finally you leave symbian, a piece of junk, I appreciate.
    Thank you

  • dissapointed

    I was really shocked reading your message! It could have been saying the same!
    I have never had anything then Nokia, but already with my last phone I was in doubt, but got again a Nokia.
    Some of my colleagues bought iPhone's and I had to configure them to work on our Cisco callmanager.
    I was chocked, I mean really CHOCKED to see how easy I could make these devices work! I have never succeeded making Nokia work on our callmanager.

    Having said that, I don't want an iPhone, I don't want to be locked in the world of Steve Jobs.

    What the hell, I am going to ask our secretary how much Vodafone asks for a HTC desire, I am fed up with Nokia.

  • Danny

    i think the same things then Ricky!

  • jhonystoy

    Is time to US to wake up too, Nokia losted the Battle, and we have to move On , Move on in to a Good OS, Good devices

  • Anonymouse

    I wouldn’t worry about Nokia, they still have a die-hard blind following. I was at BarCamp Manchester 2010 and criticised the Nokia phone being demo’d as not being on par with Android / iOS / WM6.5 I was ‘shouted down’ and told that the consumer market was not the phones target… way to go!

  • http://twitter.com/SurajKoomar Suraj Koomar

    Well it is so sad that the symbian praiser today has become criticizer for this he has solid reasons, I also have been a long follower of Nokia-Symbian devices so far i have not used all of them but from Nokia N-GAGE classic, N73 to here I'm with my Nokia N-82 might be the last, almost using from last 2 years facing so many problems like phone get hanged which while listening music. then i have to put out battery and reinsert it to restart the device, this is not all there's another problem this this one I'll call bug. It doesn't have disable option for other -tones like in profile, like when we make any call or send text messages we get a message which pop up and display charged rate and other sort info which actually called Post Call Notification (PCN) that is default setting by operator, this message tone has been assigned with your general message alert tone e.g. if you send 100 text messages you will get 100 PCN and 100 times your phone ring which is of course a lot irritating it will ring if you have assigned your message alert tone. So many time i called to operator to stop PCN service on my phone and has given reason for that.Nokia makes good product but they never make a complete featured phone somehow they drop some feature on that phone i think its their marketing strategy here's the example on their recent N8 phone which doesn't have lens cover for 12 mega-pixel phone why so ? if you can protect 3.2 MP why not 12MP this is totally ridiculous. Hoping to have linux based phone soon.

  • Adam

    Ricky, and I say it with the utmost respect, I believe this is all a predetermined scheme (albeit a brilliant one) to create a false sense of urgency and dissatisfaction. Yes, you will be using a Nexus One for the next few months. But I suspect shortly after the N8 hits the market you will decide to give Nokia a well publicized “one last shot”. The site will then be resurrected and a winner (Nokia) declared to the unsuspecting masses. A prodigal son will come back to the fold.

    Why go through the hassle you ask? You have already stirred the pot in the blogosphere by announcing your site is being shut down. Every mobile blog/site has mentioned it. What better publicity for Nokia than a dissatisfied customer/blogger changing his mind and coming back to Nokia? I can already see the quotes: “The N8 is a revolutionary product”, “I admit I was wrong” or “the prodigal son is back!”. If you hadn’t left and then come back to Nokia then nobody would care. But by supposedly leaving Nokia for greener pastures and then returning you are creating a (false) sense of interest in the N8.

    I would go even as far as to suggest that this was all done with somebody at Nokia/Nseries/Symbian playing their part in this spectacle.

    Ricky I will come back to this site and apologize if this isn’t the case. Promise you will do the same once you have had an opportunity to fondle the N8? Deal?

    Good job Nokia… err I mean Ricky. Brilliant publicity stunt.

    Peace.

  • http://technablogroll.com/unwiredview/samsung-dethrones-nokia-in-featurephone-sales-in-western-europe/ Samsung dethrones Nokia in featurephone sales (in Western Europe)

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  • http://openid.anonymity.com/6ehe3evU Guy Fawkes

    The entire industry and the whole China is aliging with Google and Android. What makes people think Nokia and Intell can rally so much support and hype?

  • Kieran

    Would you attribute the steady decline of Nokias interest in Symbian to their investments in the MeeGo platform?

    What are your thoughts on the MeeGo Platform, have you used it or are you interested in using it?

  • michael p

    the nokia stores in USA have closed. Both of them. I used to go to the one in NYC

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    A well-thought out scheme, but unfortunately, completely unfounded. I can also assure you that no one at Nokia/Symbian was even aware of this decision before it was published – not even as a 'hey, here's what I'm about to do' type personal thing.

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    [...] mas importantes de symbian cierra y con un excelente articulo de los admins dando las razones. Symbian-Guru.com Is Over | Symbian-Guru.com [...]

  • http://www.androidtapp.com/symbians-dying-breed-androidtapp-com-welcomes-you-symbian-guru-and-dotsisx/ Symbian’s Dying Breed… AndroidTapp.com Welcomes You Symbian-Guru and Dotsisx | Android Tapp. Android App Reviews

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  • Tiredofnokia

    I bought a nokia phone just before the android ccame out. I'm a comp. sci student in uni, I was really keen to do mobile development, I know python, java and c++, Im something of a java evangelist on campus and an event organiser. I organised competitions for students to develop nokia apps for our uni……anyway, my phone malfunctioned, I sent it to be fixed and nokia refused to honour the guarantee.
    This may not seem like the end of the world to some people, but for a student who eats cornflakes for dinner occasionally its a budget breaker. I have only ever owned nokia phones in over 10 years..this was also a heartbreaker.
    I trawled ebay, saw I could get a replacement screen, but just then I thought to myself “you love mobile, you love java – get android” and that was it.
    I have a spare phone if anyone wants to hack it for parts because I know I will never use it. I recently joined the android app competition in uni, Im heading in a new direction, to sum it up I know how you feel symbian-guru. Ive been there too, but now its good to know where I'm going …with a platform that seems to have a better long-term vision

  • annon

    hey dude what u say was so fucking true… i had to admit it i used n97 for a week n i ditched it
    and btw about ur comment on e71 yes it was the best nokia fone i ever had no doubt
    i am currently using a e72 which i have regretted changing to it..
    i should have kept my e71 instead of selling it
    anyway since you are running more on apps i'd say anroid is better for u
    but for a high school kid like me who dont bother to run apps i think my e72 will be more than enough for me
    good luck to u… n i hope that u will start a android guru blog instead

  • http://www.allandroidnews.com/apps/symbian%e2%80%99s-dying-breed%e2%80%a6-androidtapp-com-welcomes-you-symbian-guru-and-dotsisx/ Symbian’s Dying Breed… AndroidTapp.com Welcomes You Symbian-Guru and Dotsisx | allandroidnews.com

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  • added

    Really BIG dot.

  • http://christianlouca.com/2010/07/06/a-must-read-wake-up-nokia-symbian-guru-com-is-over/ (A MUST READ) Wake up Nokia! Symbian-Guru.com Is Over | Christian Louca
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  • wavemaster

    I belive in Nokia and Symbian! I know that Symbian^4 will be a monster, and will kicks all others OS out!
    Go Nokia! Go Symbian! The future is now!

  • PinkMirrorKirby

    Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Wave has a higher powered 1GHz processor than the Nexus One Processor.

  • Paul from Poland

    Sad to see you go. What I’m going to miss most is your “Driving with the Guru” programmes. Sometimes the sound was terrible but they were always fun to watch, simply because of your enthusiasm. Best of luck, RR :)

  • http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/comment/nokias-n8-prepares-for-a-niche-market-8217 Nokia’s N8 Prepares For A Niche Market | eWEEK Europe UK

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  • Stu Axon

    Nokia, needs to push ahead with their Linux handsets – they actually seem to work (although whether Meego will work as well as Maemo is another question).

    Also: When I’ve had small s60 phones like 6120classic it seems to work OK, but the flagship N95-N97 phones seem to run atrociously.

    So they may be going in the right direction, but I really don’t know why they continue with symbian based “flagship” phones, they just don’t seem to work very well… they need to bring out Linux based ones pronto.

  • Stu Axon

    I hope that nokia brings out lots of Meego phones, the platform has a lot of potential and would to see it realised.

    On the flash side, the Lightspark project has a very good chance of being a workable flash player at around the time the first Meego devices hit the streets.

  • Stu Axon

    Please please… make sure there are lots of Meego phones… Symbian is fine for small phones (6120 classic etc), I don’t know what you do to N95.N96,N97,N8 but they run like dogs… please more linux phones !

  • http://www.youtube.com/jeromeo1980 Jeromeo

    Jeromeo says:
    April 3, 2010 at 8:10 am

    I was a proud early adopter of the N900. I can say that I don’t believe Finnish society has the aggressive nature that is essentially the essence & backbone of American culture. Updates cannot come at the speed nor consistency of large American companies. South Korean companies like Samsung and Taiwanese companies like HTC are kicking it into high gear-sacrificing innovative design for rapid advancement of technology. Canadians keep pumping out boring, outdated Blackberries and might eventually become more relevant (but I doubt will be able to keep pace fast enough).
    Nokia will never make anything as beautiful as the 8800 series modern with touch, an amazing form factor like the 6260/N93 with touch, or even something as stable & well rounded as an N95 with a modern operating system. Instead they will keep trying to stay in the game with high megapixel, overdesigned yet unfinished, high end devices while mass chruning out crap phones for the 3rd world to stay afloat financially. They will continue to stay out of one of the highest cell phone penetrated countries in the world (the US) and will never make devices that can support more than 1 set of European 1 set of American frequency bands.
    5 of 6 in my immediate family stopped upgrading to newer Nokias as they have since 2000; one by one they all bought iPhones (as nearly half of my friends did as well). They all pay nearly double for service because of US exclusivity contracts, but were willing to switch carrier and shell out more $ without hesitation. Ask any of them if they will ever change to anything other than an iPhone ever again in the future. Then ask them if any would ever consider buying a Nokia device ever again and they will laugh.
    They will forego options they have used for nearly a decade (like bluetooth file transfers or being able to save any file to any folder on the system architecture) for stability. They know that even though Android will be constantly updated across various hardware platforms, the huge popularity of iApple will all but guarantee tremendous, continued support & wide range upgrades to features.
    No desktops or main screens look as cool as Meego/Maemo or WebOS, but maybe Android 3.0 will be closer one day?
    Nokia cannot ensure enough stability before releasing a product, cannot provide the popularity and interest for developers, cannot push updates out fast enough (or regularly before completely abandoning a model), cannot keep up with cutting edge hardware (processors, screens, etc.), nor innovate the way they once did when they ruled the market.
    I’m afraid that I have to agree with the author completely on every point made in this article. This N900 will most likely be my 6th and final Nokia. Unless the management can be shaken up hard, I can only sit around and wish for the company to return to its former glory. But as the saying goes, “you can wish in one hand and sh*t in the other and see which gets filled first”. (By which time I’ll probably be using a jailbroken iPhone with a front-facing camera or super techie and masculine looking Android device).
    Nokia, you will be missed…

    Kyllikki Varvisaari says:
    April 4, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Dear Jeromeo,
    don’t forget that there about 6 billion people on Earth who either don’t want or either cannot afford Apple or Google device. Nokia is there in order to serve needs of these people. What Nokia probably is good for in the future, is to bring smartphones available for these 6 billion other than who “if they will ever change to anything other than an iPhone ever again in the future”. That will likely to take place parallel with developments of Maemo/MeeGo super-highend devices, which will kick Iphone ass big time. In many aspects.

    Jeromeo says:
    April 5, 2010 at 12:13 am

    C’mon Kylikikykiky, are you trying to say that only 8% of the global population will be able to afford an iPhone or Android device (around $250 US and less of which nearly every carrier in the world will subsidize for those who need extended payments) for the forseeable future? Ridiculous. Remember that every 6 months about 10 new Android devices are released and every year the iPhone gets updated-making every previous model drop in price month after month. And those older devices will still continue to receive updates, unlike Nokia who discontinues a specific model completely and stops offering general firmware updates to an individual product at about 2 years after it’s initial release. [I've read on many blogs that people believe] developing nations should be ever so thankful that Nokia is offering the same 12 key, 256 color sh*t phones that they’ve been churning out since 2002 and revel in their self-centered benevolence by giving the 3rd world products that developed nations havent used in nearly a decade? I find it so sad that Nokia used to be the pinnacle of innovation and is now proud to make monochrome garbage for the impoverished. They used to offer a wide range of devices. Advanced luxury for those who could save up, marvels for the techies, virtually disposable candybars for the poor, and constant innovation to all. I feel so strongly because I am so disappointed in how horribly Nokia has slacked off for nearly 6 years. Everything they will ever do from now on will be a never ending game of catch-up. It’ all because their culture doesn’t have the cut-throat nature that American corporations have.
    I can only hope that Meego will help them attain their former glory. I would LOVE to see that, but I will not hold my breath. I hope for their sake they kick ass because I do think they have genuinely altruistic goals for ‘connecting people’ around the globe while making money in the process, where Apple will make a product that is so amazingly intuitive that they expect you to hand over your savings while kissing their feet to stroke their ego for their hard work. Google just wants all eyes to be channelled through their products to dominate the advertising market. Asian manufacturers simply want to reach higher numbers in sales, profits, market shares, and company rankings-nothing more than numbers.
    I find it sad that not everyone should expext technology to evolve exponentially. I had my very first smartphone in 2003 and I’ve realised that No One (rich or poor) should just sit around and accept a feature phone in the year 2010. All should demand convergence! No more digital camreas, laptops, watches, phones, netbooks, desktops, eReeders, mp3 players, MIDs, but instead ONE multipurpose device. And please don’t argue that not everyone needs a camera or one person might not want to use a music player-making dozens of mediocre devices instead of one usefull to all device is unintelligent and wasteful with the the earth’s natural resourses (more factories, more production lines, more electricity, more product ehich will never be recycled).

  • Oliveira

    Nexus One?!?!?!?!?!? Excellent choice!!! ;-) hahahahahahahahaha…

  • kovos

    The N900 was still a mistake since it was replaced by Meego and will not get a firmware update.

  • http://www.mobile2null.com/hintergrund/5-vor-12-fuer-nokia 5 vor 12 für Nokia | Mobile2Null

    [...] des Eisberges war das Ende von Symbian-Guru. Seinem Post kann ich nur zustimmen und Nokia sollte das verdammt Ernst [...]

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  • Robbie Ride

    Personally i think you are having a classic “spit the dummy out moment”, i mean are you seriously crying over spilt milk? All mobile phone manufacturers go though “lulls” just look at Motorola and Sony Ericsson but they peddled on and inproved there game by jumping on the Android bandwagon. but Nokia Innovate, i’ve seen many great changes in Nokia devices and i’m looking forward to seeing more to come with the N8 etc.

    Sure the Nokia 5800 and N97 weren’t the best devices the company ever released, especially with the latters lack of ram, but they were great devices in their own right but Nokia have learned from there mistakes and the future looks great but only time will tell.

    It seems for a Nokia fan you don’t know your Symbian from your Andoid, you wrote a paragraph to Symbain but Nokia are at the heart of the Sybian Foundation along with Sony Ericsson, NTT DoCoMo, Motorola, Texas Instruments, Vodafone, LG Electronics, Samsung Electronics, STMicroelectronics and AT&T, so what you wrote seems pointless.

    I have used many Nokia devices from my very first in 1998 to my current bought in 2009, i still have alot of these phones and i will continue to buy more in the future, but one thing i can say is that even though the current crop of handsets have had problems, Nokia phones are the most reliable i have ever had and i have had my fair share from various manufacturers but i always go back to Nokia.

    The thing that you have to remember is that although the mobile phone market is saturated with the ever increasing number of devices from many manufacturers, you only have to look around the web to see how many got in wrong, but not one manufacturer will get it 100% right the first time, it never happens amd never will, because there will always be something thats been done wrong.

    In closing, it’s a sad day when a supposidly aficionado, writes on his blog post that he is had it with Nokia handsets and is moving on to handsets provided by other manufacturers as it seems completely premature if a little childish.

  • http://renaissancechambara.jp/2010/07/09/your-brand-is-in-the-toilet-word-of-mouth-has-its-hand-on-the-chain-to-flush/ renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll – Your brand is in the toilet, word-of-mouth has its hand on the chain to flush

    [...] a good rallying point for the community. So when its contributors signaled the end of the blog and wrote an open letter to readers explaining why they where quitting the brand for the rival Android platform it [...]

  • Gazoline

    Totaly right ,I was a fan too ,even hated people when they talk about other devices ,i was a nokia fan since 1995 was my first device from nokia ,and now i was dying to get my hands on the N97 ,i bought a nightmare for me, iam really sick ,this device made me sick ,why should i hack my device ! and try to overclock and dumb files craeting dummy files to save some space on drive C: they made a big mistake with the ram and drive C: after people complains and the whole waiting action for more than 7 monthes for the new firmware release they did nothing it got worse after the update ,and nokia knows well what the people are facing the whole time with this crap they sold us and the funny thing calling it a flag ship ya ya ya … and when you download an app from ovistore you are forced to install it on c: personaly i use siscontent unpacking the app and change the destination to install it on E or F some of them works some not ,and the god damn magical CPU which is a waw such a big fail ,i hate nokia ,even they are not shamed telling people (yes it was a mistake the nokia n97) what the heck ,why should i pay for a mistake i didnt do if nokia wants the people back instead going in tv and telling people it was a fail ,they should call back the n97 and give their users their fans a new device .
    i bought my device from like more than a year 4 monthes in nokia service they replaced my device 5 times ,lol they made me crazy i send my device there to be repaird i get it back with the same faults and errors (cam,GPS ,signal is weak ,and the big problem is the battery 5 hours ) what a shame ,and there is nothing no apps for nokia n97 its like i travled back in time ,now we are playing xbox360 and i went back in time to play sega mega drive ,no 3d support GPU is turned off by defualt to save some battery oh yes iam talking about everything ,yes i hacked the hell of this device ,even tho lil change barely noticable iam not gonna say more iam sick and tired from nokia last device ,and one thing for nokia get some new engineers you should replace your whole team ,its the worst device i ever had in my life ,bye bye nokia my next device its going to be running andriod ……

    Ps. Disturbed My name is well known on the internet and in the world of mobile devices …

  • Masongup

    Gotta agree with you guys. I've been a Nokia smartphone user since 2005, but I just got an Android phone in February, and I haven't looked back. Symbian was good back then, but iOS and Android are moving ahead rapidly, while Nokia is essentially standing still, or more like stumbling around like an alcoholic at closing time. Looks to me like Nokia's been left in the dust, with little chance of ever catching up, especially in the app category. I'd suggest that they adopt Android and focus on their hardware if they want to have a chance at remaining relevant in the smartphone category 2-3 years from now.

  • Viswanath

    guys, pls don't get dissapointed. nokia knows wat they are doing. I'm sure the meego will emerge as a killer OS n nokia will rule the segment again………

    I'm still stuck with my e66 waiting to upgrade it with the first meego device…….

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  • Rick Cadden

    Ricky, it is so sad to even think that the GURU is not there writing anymore. Nokia is loosing the huge impact you have made for them and their products. I don;t know of anyone else anywhere that supported them like you did, They should have listened a long time ago to you. All i know is you are THE GURU for me on cell phones and i am sure for millions others out there since you stated all this blogging many years ago. You have impacted so many lives out there and shared incredible amounts of knowledge to people all around the world. GREAT JOB SYMBIAN GURU! KUDOS! CHEERS! GREAT JOB. WAY TO GO.
    Rick Cadden
    Dad

  • http://www.rickycadden.com Ricky Cadden

    Thanks Dad. :)

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  • srinash

    thank god you are going away from nokia and their per symbian

    nokia org run by dumb arses no doubt on that part but whats the problem for nokia to atleast make n97 usable i had purchased it 6 months back that to some whooping 700$ on the first day i had noticed i need to put some extra energy to scroll the touch screen it has let down me on various issues music player horrible which was buggy , camera lens so many scraches , waste photo album [we may see same basic album in all nokia mobiles] with frequent rebooting , hanging problem ,and not too many apps in ovi store may be some 100s and my n97 got discolored already the sound bar looks ugly which makes me to at least not to carry

    what irritates me is still those run nokia not learning even after years of launch they are not updting their firmware one after another each update had bugs and laughable thing is even upcoming n8 also had same problems as shown in ur review then whos going to buy this dumb asre phone

    u made a good choice for letting nokia to die with their own ideas

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  • Im Lebanese too

    I have been an active participant on many local Symbian Forum. Recently I started a little war, by saying Symbian was going into oblivion by programmers (not designers, since everyday new themes appear).

    A couple days later, another forum member gave me this link. I've visited this site in the past and was in shock to see people who are obviously way beyond my five Nokia phones experience take this decision.

    I'm also movingo to Android, and will be receiving my Motorola Milestone by tomorrow morning
    (according to DHL). I will miss my E63, which I believe is one of the best value/price phone ever. And I will never know how was the E72 I was expecting to arrive to my country just a few weeks ago.

    But… enough is enough. And I don't want to go around using a Betamax in a VHS world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/asbahri Ahmad Saiful Bahri

    im using Nexus One since two month ago, and guess what, i am android fanboy now. i felt sorry on symbian but i have no choice

  • epool86

    but Nexus also 1Ghz?

  • Keith

    I’ve a long time lurker here. And sadly this will probably be my first and last post. I just want to pip what others have said about the great job you guys have done providing tips and tricks for Symbian.

    My first Nokia was a Nokia 6230. A first exposure to Nokia’s hardware. Not much to say. A solid dumbphone which did it’s job well.

    My first real exposure to Symbian though was my Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic, which I got in December 2008. At the time I wanted something relatively cheap and unlocked so that I could avoid the exorbitant roaming fees of my carrier (Rogers in Canada) when I travel for work.

    This was my first smartphone as well. And it left a terribly impression about Nokia on me. It was a great phone when I first got it. It wasn’t that competitive with the iPhone. But I didn’t care because it did what I wanted it to do (talk and surf the web) and did it well. However, over time I noticed that the phone started to get laggy. And two weeks before I ditched it for a Nexus One, it completely crashed on me (not starting up past the initial Nokia logo screen). I needed to use the desktop client to restore the phone….too bad Nokia doesn’t make a desktop client for the Mac.

    But build quality wasn’t what pushed me to jump. That after all, didn’t annoy me till the end. It was support for the OS.

    I began to notice that apps that were on iOS were coming on Android. And large companies seem committed to supporting three operating systems: iOS, Blackberry OS and Android. Symbian does not feature anywhere on that list. Look at TD CanadaTrust or Rogers in Canada. They have apps for those three operating systems. Nothing for Symbian. And that’s not even taking into account the quality of the Ovi app store and the issues with that.

    Aside from the apps, I also noticed how Google was adding features to phones already on the market. They supported the OS well. My experience with a Nexus One confirms this. Every update seems to be the addition of a major new feature. This makes even cheap or dated phones in the Android world attractive as they gain features over time (though admitted OEM support is not even across the Android lineup). Compare a cheap Android device to a middle of the road Symbian device like my Nokia 5800. World of difference. I know you talked about the N97. But that’s not where the largest differences lie. The gulf is huge and growing in the low end of the brands.

    But all that is still fixable. What is problematic looking at Symbian going forward is a whole other set of issues. First is the bewildering transition plan. Symbian^3 than Symbian^4 in less than a year? A whole new operating system in a year? Or is this just an OS update (like Android 2.1 to Android 2.2)? This is confusing to users. And on top of that Nokia has maemo/meego. What’s the point of that OS? And how am I supposed to decide what’s better for me as a user? This kind of stuff is bewildering for customers. That kind of fragmentation is there in the Android world too. But at least Android’s versioning is easier to understand and analogous to the computer world. But Nokia and Symbian are actually fragmenting on purpose in the future?

    Then there’s the web strategy. Google is an internet company. They understand the internet. It’s power. It’s potential. They get it. Nokia does not. Look at what they put out. Compare it to the Google equivalent. Maps. Mail. Contacts. Nothing close to Google. If Maps alone was decent, I might have considered another Symbian device. But Nokia doesn’t even come close. Points of interst? Terrible on Nokia. Also took Nokia years to add my ‘new’ condo to their map. Google didn’t just add the address. It got StreetView’d. But that’s not the only place where the gap is. Just look at how well Symbian plays with other internet services like facebook, twitter, MSN, etc. Not even close to the Android or iOS or even Blackberry OS experience.

    And this brings me to my last point. The relationship between Nokia and Symbian. I fully agree that Symbian is sinking with Nokia. The problem is that Nokia is trying to use Symbian to compete with Google and also trying to differentiate itself as a brand inside the Symbian-verse. But this hurts Symbian. So Symbian has no platform wide native email. maps, contacts management solution. But Nokia does. So your Symbian experience is essentially tied to Nokia. And innovation in the Symbian-verse will only go so far as Nokia allows it. This is where Symbian’s whole open OS talk falls apart. Sure it’s an open OS. That’s nice. The problem, however, is that they are largely tied to one client. Other than Nokia, every other Symbian OEM is now getting its feet wet in Android’s pool. So for all intents and purposes Symbian = Nokia. And as long as that’s the case, Symbian will be tied to Nokia’s innovation. Where Nokia lags behind, so will Symbian. And right now Nokia is waaaaay behind.

    And all of that is not even taking into account their lack of support for North America. If they want to write off nearly 400 million well-off North Americans (in the manner you listed above) that’s their prerogative. But don’t complain when sales in North America tank and nobody even knows what Symbian is or equates Nokia with dumbphones only. They chose to put Europe first. Now they can make their last stand there (for smartphones at least….it’ll be a while till they run out of dumbphone customers in the developing world).

    I sincerely wish them luck because they need it. But I can’t honestly say I think they’ll pull out of it. Symbian’s a dead man walking. And Nokia is smartphone sales are going to tank shortly. Even the N8 won’t save them. Just look at what will be in the market when the N8 is out. How is the N8 going to compete with an Android 3.0 equipped HTC Ace? It’ll pretty much be obsolete on release. So, good luck to them. But I really don’t recommend buying stock in Nokia or trying a make a career out of developing for Symbian at the moment.

  • Keith

    Why the N900 and why Maemo/Meego? That’s part of the problem. Nokia is proliferating too many mobile operating systems. Pick one and develop it well. Look at Apple and the iOS. You don’t see them making another OS for the iPad.

  • Alex

    to be honest (((from an android fan prospective)) i really do support nokia for the services they are offering which are kinda missing in google… i do own an htc hero and just recently tried to try something new so i went and bought the n97… i knw it might sound weird to you u ppl but i kinda liked the n97 alot.. i mean despite the responsiveness and the attractive UI on the Htc hero thanks to the android platform,,,,still the n97 did serve me in many things like setting up the my email clients that took less than a minate to setup, where on android ppl where stuck with setting up a gmail and relying on internet browsing to check their hotmail and so on… i live in Brazil and when i got my google phone for the first time it didnt have the android market!!!!!! i ended up hacking it after months of fear of what will happen to me if the phone got bricked but i finally hacked it and i did learn many things from the xda-developers site but the lack of support for the phone made me upset as i thought that i could easily navigate through the android market on pc and simply download the apps but unfotunantely that wasnt the case…. after getting the n97 i did realise the diffreneces between the two platforms… for sure android was ahead..especially with the 7homesceen that i used to customize on htc but i knew i had to discover more about nokia because it is not all about the homescreen…first thing came to mind is the ngage thing where it was all about gaming in the end it wasnt bad i mean FINALLY i was able to purchase a paid game thanks to mobile billing method of payin where on android i had to rely on the credit card but hey aonline shopping isnt my forte so i had to rely on free apps… i do agree on the problem adressing the lack of RAM but i simply close apps that are in the background when i dont need them simply to free the RAM and save battery which is also adviced by when using android phone mid-low range..the battery is grreat and i did like how nokia line up there services for their customers… ovi contact/calender/mail been usefull as i been using them to sync my stuff and the ovi files amazed me with the amount of 10 GB of online storage offered opossed to the 1GB of storage in google docs…the ovi music/maps where great as the ovi music store felt like the itunes music store which is ahead of google since it doesnt have any music services yet but just announced recently it will start to, and there was no need to have a creditcard to browse the online store and the ovi maps did kinda alright in terms of navigation speed but you can download the maps from the ovi suite and even find hotel, restaurant and events near you where on google maps you couldnt beable to browse maps offline… finally.. the ngage…i did like it becuase it was more of a socializing gaming network… i did like the worms games which wasnt on the android market tho i wish if it did…after all there is a potential in nokia and the n8 is promissing to bring major upgrades in terms of performce and usebility((remeber it is still a prototype things might change in it))…there is also nokia labs which apps in beta are provided to ppl and feedbacks are welcomed…in the end there is no perfect phone but as long as the phone does serve your needs well then you can call it a perfect phone for you.. i am still use both phones and in the end am no hater to google or nokia but i cant also blame nokia becuase experiencing something like trying out things is differnt than just throwing word at nokia without realising the real thing..after all thats my opinion… as much as i love android and symbian it is hard to say that symbian is over cuz i think n8 will do well with the support nokia gives in terms of customer services…

  • Keith

    Quit being so sensitive. I'm Indian and there's truth to his statement, though it comes off as a tad ignorant. Nokias are popular in the Middle East and India, as they are all over the developing world in part because of price.

    How well would an unlocked iPhone 4 or Nexus One or Xperia X10 or Galaxy S sell in India? Do you really think sales of those devices would outpace cheaper Nokia Symbian phones?

  • Keith

    You should be proud of your son. I am